You're NOT a basketball fan if you don't overflow with feels watching this video SRS

[GetClassy]

This. Just because you say "who cares" doesn't make it irrelevant. This is arguably more impressive than Wilt's 100 points considering who he had to compete with back then but that's another argument all on its own.

Why do you dislike Kobe so much? You seem to be dead set against him

nah he's cool bro. i can see why he despises some fans. Heck even I do too. lololol.

[Sikhveins]

He is one of the best all around player like mj. They have there own elite catagoery

I'm not even a Kobe fan

[GOATbrah]

Nah as I just wrote above and in other threads I really enjoy Kobe's presence in the league. It's his fans.

nah he's cool bro. i can see why he despises some fans. Heck even I do too. lololol.

Understood. It was way more annoying 4 years ago when they were good though. Just like the Derrick Rose is GOAT pre ACL tear now everyone doubts him lawls

[ClevageGobbler]

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Wilt

6-10 doesn't matter the order but Duncan, Hakeem, Shaq, Lebron, Oscar.

Kobe is in Barkley, Ewing, Malone, Isiah, AI territory. Look at the guys I listed 1-10. Those are players who played the game unlike anyone before or after them. Leaders. Innovators. Originators. Game changers. Each one of those guys, you can say no one played like him. They all brought something unique to the game. We all know kobe is just the basketball version of a Micahel Jordan cover band.

Anybody who places Oscar Robertson and LeBron over Kobe isn't wise to the game. Get over stats and realize a bonafide champion son. A leader. Kobe Bryant has taken his team to the NBA Finals seven times. How many players have done that or more? Russell, West, Kareem, Magic, Kobe. The best are going to find a way to get to that highest level of play and bust their ass off to win. I've seen Kobe put his soul in the game and to discredit him a place in the top 5 let alone top 10 is pure ignorance.

[wifestealer]

lmao at *******s who dont think Kobe is even top 10...I know its your opinion but dont be so damn ignorant. IMO, Kobe has already passed Magic as Greatest Laker of all time, and is better than Bird. Oscar? Pls.. Russell? lmao, only cuz he has 11 rings?

I know its hard to compare different positions/eras/accomplishments but this guy is only behind MJ when it comes to pure basketball talent.

mild lerbon nuthugger checking in.

this post is truth.

his flaw is that he believed he could do it all himself, and if there's and "flaw" a competitive basketball player should have it's this. try say that kobe does not have the same skill, work ethic, raw talent, motivation and perseverance as magic/bird and keep a straight face. truly one of the legends of the game, top 5 player when it's all said and done. the greatest player to wear purple and gold. thankfully it's only on this board where his fans give him a bad rep. tons of classy kobe fans elsewhere.

[BillTheBro]

i watched it all and almost cried (srs)


the best athlete of our generation IMO.. assassin mentality


as a celtic fan i hated him for so long, but that mentality, for him its really nothing personal

[8July2010x928pm]

Top 5 Player All Time

Never even been the best player on his own team. Not even once in 17 years.

Makes sense OP. I applaud the jedi mind tricks you did to make you jump to that top 5 conclusion.

[mcboo2]

mild lerbon nuthugger checking in.

this post is truth.

his flaw is that he believed he could do it all himself, and if there's and "flaw" a competitive basketball player should have it's this. try say that kobe does not have the same skill, work ethic, raw talent, motivation and perseverance as magic/bird and keep a straight face. truly one of the legends of the game, top 5 player when it's all said and done. the greatest player to wear purple and gold. thankfully it's only on this board where his fans give him a bad rep. tons of classy kobe fans elsewhere.

Repped. Trolling aside, I think most of the people that are "kobe nuthuggers" just troll back at the lebron fans, there is ALOT of them here. I, liking kobe, am well aware Lebron will be top 10 all time also. Where he ends up, we will all see. But we're all gonna make it brah

[Strizzz]

Top 5? Not quite, but I'll give him top 7.

[sdballer5588]

He's top 10 and that's based on cumulative resume not raw skill or athleticism or dominance. It's the length of his "prime". At his peak there are a good 10-15 players that are better than him by a good deal.

[LorTy]

He's top 10 and that's based on cumulative resume not raw skill or athleticism or dominance. It's the length of his "prime". At his peak there are a good 10-15 players that are better than him by a good deal.

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[yungbreezy]

Your location is showing

Don't feed the attention starved troll bro.

[Spill512]

Kobe has been in 7 of the last 13 NBA finals.

[sdballer5588]

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Location: California

What was the point of this.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

he also has 1 ring and is only 28 with ~21k points. god forbid something happens to him NOW he won't ever be named in that list. if he stays healthy i will allow it, in like 6 years

oh thank you for allowing it lol.

real talk, the Heat are going to 3peat with ease before facing any real threat to their reign. this season will be steamroll city and next season the momentum will carry over. so 15 months from this post, lebron is going to have 3 rings, 3 finals MVPs, 4 regular season MVPs (at least), with 23,000 pts, 6k rebs, 6k assists at age 29.

and he will be top 3 of all time right then and there with Jordan and Kareem.

in 6 years the difference between him and Jordan will be the same as the difference between Yahweh and Allah.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

and you fukin retards, magic is still and will always be the greatest laker of all time.

5 rings, 3 finals mvps, 3 regular season mvps, made it to the finals 75% of his career, higher career PER, higher career PLAYOFF PER, actually retired with NBA career records, etc

magic will always be the greatest laker of all time. he did more for that franchise in 12 seasons than kobe has done in 17. and he won 3 regular season and 3 finals MVPs.

sure kareem won 5 of his 6 rings with the lakers but was the finals mvp of those 5 only once. his most dominant years and a giant part of his career stats were pre-LA, so ok kobe is ahead of him as a laker (not as a player).

shaq's most dominant years were in LA, but less than half of his career was in LA. he did carry them to 3 rings and got all 3 finals mvps because of it. but kobe won more rings as a Laker and spent his whole career there.

so kobe is the 2nd greatest laker of all time because of career resume as a laker. although shaq's years as a Laker were more dominant, he's 3rd.

lol @ anyone who thinks kobe is the greatest laker of all time. not without another ring and finals MVP.

inb4 youtube of magic saying kobe is the greatest laker of all time. inb4 anyone but me understands the concept of humility.

[yungbreezy]

and you fukin retards, magic is still and will always be the greatest laker of all time.

5 rings, 3 finals mvps, 3 regular season mvps, made it to the finals 75% of his career, higher career PER, higher career PLAYOFF PER, actually retired with NBA career records, etc

Lol @ thinking your opinion counts for anything. Laker greats have already confirmed him as the GOAT Laker, all the crying in the world doesn't change that.

Deal with it.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

Lol @ thinking your opinion counts for anything. Laker greats have already confirmed him as the GOAT Laker, all the crying in the world doesn't change that.

Deal with it.

lol @ this angry *******. your tears are delicious.

Magic's the greatest Laker of all time. To this day when people think Lakers, they think Showtime. They think Magic Johnson and the Godfather of South Beach.

Sorry Kobe, if only you were better in the first 3 peat, you could've matched Magic's playoff excellence and have a trio of finals MVPs instead of the most poverty 2 of all time. If only you were actually the clear cut best player in the world for more than a season or 2. you might have more than 1 MVP.

5 = 5
3 > 2
3 > 1

Magic wins. u mad?

[yungbreezy]

My opinion means nothing

I agree.

Lol @ your existence.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

I agree.

Lol @ your existence.

That feel when you've left them so speechless that all they can do is edit your post of unfukkwitable truth.

That feel of victory.

[isawthesign]

If Duncan or Lebron was ever the second best player on their team.... we are talking 5-6 titles apiece minimum. Get this out of your head "oh 7 titles appearances and 5 titles". Once again, he's a great player/scorer, but in terms of game changing abilities, a DOMINANT, DYNAMIC player someone who can handle the ball like Lebron or a great defensive player like Duncan or Hakeem and Wilt... in addition to being great scorers and team leader, the WHOLE package, hell I'll even throw a guy like CP3 or Kidd and Nash in there. You've seen how they've made bad teams into contenders. Kobe can't do that, he's ONLY A SCORER. We saw it in 2005-2007 and we saw it this year. Yeah, he's putting up all of these crazy numbers 35ppg, 8+ games with 40 or 50 or whatever, so WHAT? his team was average and even missed the playoffs one year. we saw it again this year too. Kobe is so lucky to have an injury like this. he's off the hook for this season, i guess. but then again, this year only confirmed what we all already knew. great scorer, not a very good player maker, not as good as lebron, or duncan or prime hakeem or nash or kidd or even cp3. you guys remember how revelant the clippers were b4 cp3? honestly, the clippers would get better if they had kobe, no doubt (he's a great player), but i dont see him changing them completely and making them contenders. you guys dont play basketball at ALL. scoring isnt everything. you guys dont give a **** about defense

[wifestealer]

lol @ this angry *******. your tears are delicious.

Magic's the greatest Laker of all time. To this day when people think Lakers, they think Showtime. They think Magic Johnson and the Godfather of South Beach.

Sorry Kobe, if only you were better in the first 3 peat, you could've matched Magic's playoff excellence and have a trio of finals MVPs instead of the most poverty 2 of all time. If only you were actually the clear cut best player in the world for more than a season or 2. you might have more than 1 MVP.

5 = 5
3 > 2
3 > 1

Magic wins. u mad?

not really. ask the world who do they think of when you say the los angeles lakers. most will say kobe bryant, some will say shaq and some (females, no racist) will say michael jordan. only 40 year old americans will think magic johnson. srs. he's more synonymous with HIV than he is with the lakers globally.

[Spill512]

not really. ask the world who do they think of when you say the los angeles lakers. most will say kobe bryant, some will say shaq and some (females, no racist) will say michael jordan. only 40 year old americans will think magic johnson. srs. he's more synonymous with HIV than he is with the lakers globally.

"females, no racist"

[wifestealer]

"females, no racist"

lolol not racist against females. meant as in they're just ignorant about bball and i dont think blacks look the same nomsayin? like how the misc always says chit like

"I have a dream" - Barack Obama [pic of Colin Powell]

[J2BDifferent]

Can't put you in top 10 if you never shot 50% fg or better in a season. I'd slot em 10-15

[MyronJobrawsky]

dear lawd those spin floaters hgngnhgng

ps imagine the feels kobe has watching this

[Rebounds45]

what sucks about Kobe's career is that he had the worst team during his prime years. From 2004-2007.

[FlabbyAndSick]

what sucks about Kobe's career is that he had the worst team during his prime years. From 2004-2007.

Shouldn't have ran shaq and phil out of town then.

[Rebounds45]

Shouldn't have ran shaq and phil out of town then.

how did he run Shaq out of town?

[FlabbyAndSick]

how did he run Shaq out of town?

"Bryant told Jackson that O'Neal's presence on the team would affect his decision to stay with the Lakers, adding, "I'm tired of being a sidekick," Jackson wrote.

Bryant has said he had no role in Jackson or O'Neal's departure from the team. Jackson retired, and O'Neal was traded to the Miami Heat.

Jackson said he had run-ins with O'Neal as well but that coaching him was "an experience I will cherish forever."

Jackson wrote he became so frustrated with Bryant that he told general manager Mitch Kupchak in January, "I won't coach this team next year if he is still here. He won't listen to anyone. I've had it with this kid."

It was not the first time Jackson requested the team trade Bryant. He sought to trade him to the Phoenix Suns for Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion in the 1999-00 season. But then-general manager Jerry West told Jackson that owner Jerry Buss would never trade the Laker star, he wrote in his diary. Jackson said he was told the same thing last season."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...son-book_x.htm