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    damn he was muscular. despite his height, he still won 2 olympias, great achivement
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    Originally Posted by Bokula View Post
    damn he was muscular. despite his height, he still won 2 olympias, great achivement
    That's debatable in itself.
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    how did he achieve that level of chest development? you don't see a lot of pros like that. is it just ridiculous focus on the upper chest or something lol?
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    Originally Posted by supacrazymonkey View Post
    how did he achieve that level of chest development? you don't see a lot of pros like that. is it just ridiculous focus on the upper chest or something lol?
    I think phil heath has him beat, but your right. Most guys don't reach phil's type of development
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    Upper chest development like that is genetic. The right minor is so distict and noticeably thicker than the left minor too. Very unique look.
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    Originally Posted by BaGeL23 View Post
    That's debatable in itself.
    how is it debatable that FRANCO's winning the Olympia twice was not a great achievement???


    everyone is judged by THEIR PEERS AT THEIR CURRENT TIME......

    don't use today's standards on Franco, or any of the guys from the 70s......


    he was a Giant in his time...that's all that matters....one of the strongest bodybuilders pound for pound.....and he competed most of his career in the shadow of the legendary Arnold, his friend...not an easy task....
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    Originally Posted by RC2008 View Post
    Upper chest development like that is genetic. The right minor is so distict and noticeably thicker than the left minor too. Very unique look.
    youre talking about the clavicular heads im guessing,


    the pectoralis minor is deep to the pec major and you cant see it with your eyes
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    Originally Posted by agvares View Post
    WHA!! Okay, this is the first time I have ever seen someone's chest look like this. Check out the inside of his pecs. See how jagged they are? Do any other pros have pecs like that? I havn't noticed, maybe I am not looking close enough, but my chest looks like that on the inside of the pecs (jagged), and I always thought it was unique and a minus to the overall physique, but now that I see Franco, it's all better
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    The first time I saw Franco was in Arnold's encyclopedia. There was a picture of him deadlifting like 800 lb. From then til now I've been a fan of Franco--he's one of my favorite Golden Era guys.
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    There are some modern guys with some pretty sick upper chests:


    Course, this is a Franco thead:
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    Originally Posted by supacrazymonkey View Post
    how did he achieve that level of chest development? you don't see a lot of pros like that. is it just ridiculous focus on the upper chest or something lol?
    Originally Posted by RC2008 View Post
    Upper chest development like that is genetic. The right minor is so distict and noticeably thicker than the left minor too. Very unique look.
    ^^^This.

    Everyone has the same muscles, but each persons structure is independently unique to the person. You can change the way they develop by lifting, proper nutrition etc., but the way they are structured, tied into one another, or symmetric are just basically genetic structure.

    Phil Heath and Kai Greene both have fantastic arms. They both train hard, eat well and supplement, so that part is a wash. They will just never have the same arms because the way their bodies have different structured tie-ins and different length muscle bellies.

    For Franco, it was chest. Franco's pec structure was probably the most unique of them all, and was really brought out with all the hard training.
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    That's debatable in itself.
    x2. His arms are way too small compared to his head.
    Making acceptable the unacceptable.

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    Originally Posted by JOHN GARGANI View Post
    how is it debatable that FRANCO's winning the Olympia twice was not a great achievement???


    everyone is judged by THEIR PEERS AT THEIR CURRENT TIME......

    don't use today's standards on Franco, or any of the guys from the 70s......


    he was a Giant in his time...that's all that matters....one of the strongest bodybuilders pound for pound.....and he competed most of his career in the shadow of the legendary Arnold, his friend...not an easy task....
    You completely misunderstood me, I did not mean to suggest that he was anything less than a fantastic bodybuilder. However, Franco's second Olympia victory is seen by many to be the most disputed of all time. It is widely believed that he was simply "handed" the Sandow by Arnold. I'm not an expert on the Golden Age of bodybuilding, and as such don't have the specific competitors of that year memorized, but there have been multiple threads talking about how he did not deserve that second victory.
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    You completely misunderstood me, I did not mean to suggest that he was anything less than a fantastic bodybuilder. However, Franco's second Olympia victory is seen by many to be the most disputed of all time. It is widely believed that he was simply "handed" the Sandow by Arnold. I'm not an expert on the Golden Age of bodybuilding, and as such don't have the specific competitors of that year memorized, but there have been multiple threads talking about how he did not deserve that second victory.
    I've heard the same thing. I've heard how Arnold's seventh was controversial, and the following year, when Franco came back, the feelings were the same.

    But I also feel that Arnold rightfully deserved his 7th so... Don't know much about what happened at the O that Franco won his second, but since there was been so much controversy over both Arnold and him, and Arnold deserved it, I am willing to believe franco earned it too.
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    I've heard the same thing. I've heard how Arnold's seventh was controversial, and the following year, when Franco came back, the feelings were the same.

    But I also feel that Arnold rightfully deserved his 7th so... Don't know much about what happened at the O that Franco won his second, but since there was been so much controversy over both Arnold and him, and Arnold deserved it, I am willing to believe franco earned it too.
    There's no doubt in my mind that Arnold deserved his 7th. A quick quote on the 1981 Mr.Olympia:

    Columbu's thighs were notably downsized, the result of a strongman injury years prior. The winner was not at his best, but Chris Dickerson (second), Roy Callendar (fourth) and Danny Padilla (fifth) were. And to say Tom Platz (third) was "at his best" would be an understatement. He shocked the bodybuilding world with new upper-body sinew and legs--already the world's best-- which, some believe even today have not been equaled.
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    You completely misunderstood me, I did not mean to suggest that he was anything less than a fantastic bodybuilder. However, Franco's second Olympia victory is seen by many to be the most disputed of all time. It is widely believed that he was simply "handed" the Sandow by Arnold. I'm not an expert on the Golden Age of bodybuilding, and as such don't have the specific competitors of that year memorized, but there have been multiple threads talking about how he did not deserve that second victory.
    and THIS is your basis for slighting the man???

    are you telling me that there haven't been debatable Olympias SINCE then???

    some of Cutler's "victories", some of Ronnie's "victories"??

    there will NEVER be a shortage of controversy in a sport that is totally subjective, that is the problem....

    there has never been true uniformity in the judging principles of bodybuilding, nor will there ever be, the way the sport has been handled......

    All of the contestants are subject to these whims: in some cases, there are modern bodybuilders who have both benefited AND suffered from these inequities.....

    just part and parcel of the whole game, unfortunately.....

    but regardless of what does or does not go their favor in way of competitions, pictures don't lie, and they are all fabulous for their times.....
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    All you have to do is look at some pictures from 81. Franco looked terrible.
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    Originally Posted by porcupinetree View Post
    All you have to do is look at some pictures from 81. Franco looked terrible.
    x2. It was pretty clear that Franco looked bad. Yes, it's subjective, but when someone without a doubt looks bad, it's damn near objective. That's like saying **** smells good (smell being subjective), but when the rest of the world disagrees, it kinda becomes unanimous that **** indeed smells bad.

    Strange analogy, but don't worry about it.

    That being said, I think Franco was a good bodybuilder. Not my favorite by any means, but definitely had some strong points (strength obviously as well).
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    Originally Posted by porcupinetree View Post
    All you have to do is look at some pictures from 81. Franco looked terrible.
    Umm, post them maybe?

    Someone post some pics of Franco so we can see what you're talking about!!!
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    my upper chest is also more developed, and i've only ever benched flat.
    Try not for a lighter load, but for a stronger back.
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    When he got gyno it really screwed his chest up.
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    x2. His arms are way too small compared to his head.
    lol coming from a twib who will never achieve anything close to that in your lifetime. Mind=Blown!
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    my upper chest is also more developed, and i've only ever benched flat.
    You sure about that?
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    Originally Posted by Axramon View Post
    my upper chest is also more developed, and i've only ever benched flat.
    lmfao.....rofl....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    I think phil heath has him beat, but your right. Most guys don't reach phil's type of development
    I thought you were a Heath fan, his chest is his worst bodypart, are you being sarcastic and hating on Heath?
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    Not sure why all the Franco hate. Its not like he all of a sudden won the 1981 Olympia. He was always coming in second (only behind Arnold).

    I can't seem to find any 1981 Olympia pictures....
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