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    Smile New here, another skinny guy looking to bulk/gain

    Hey everyone, gonna try to make this simple, easy to read, and organized.

    I'm 20 years old, never really done anything about my body. I eat what I want, when I want, however much I want. Although I started to realize a couple months back that I'm skinny because I overestimate my eating (shocking huh?).

    I've just now started eating larger helpings and fitting in random snacks and foods, and so I have noticed an increase in my ability to consume more at one time. Should be helpful.

    On to the goals.

    I'm 20, about 115lbs, and around 5'11" give or take 0.5" if it really matters. I have 7% body fat according to my physiology lab course about 2 years ago, not much has changed at all. My waist is around 29 inches.

    I'd like to start working on gaining weight, and a good solid workout routing to help me bulk up. My ideal goal weight for the next year or two is as close as possible to 150, although my ultimate goal weight is probably around 175 or so.

    I am currently in Manchester, UK for another 30 days, so all I have access to is a pull up bar I bought cheap, and my apartment. A gym membership costs $50 after fees etc. for the first month, but I'm really self-conscious about going in there. What to do? Can I make it with just a pull up bar and my apartment room for the first 30 days? (this is the gym, can't link yet puregym manchester-spinningfields )

    Back home I have friends to hit the gym with, a pull up bar, and free weights.

    Back on topic.

    I need general advice on how to go about things, and what workouts I can do in my apartment for these first 30 days. I have some Optimum nutrition weight gain I bought the other day, as well as a bunch more food to eat up on. I'm pretty sure I could hold off well on the diet part and eating the right amount of things, and enough of it, but I'm mainly wondering about workouts or if you've gone through this similar experience as me (skinny and bulked up).

    Any help is appreciated, and sorry if this posting is all over the place.
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    Starting strength and one of these a day:



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    ^ that.

    Dammit Erik, you forgot to put "nofap beware"
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    ^ that.

    Dammit Erik, you forgot to put "nofap beware"

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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Starting strength and one of these a day:
    Haha, what do you mean by "starting strength" exactly?

    And I'll try to budget around a lot more pizzas I guess!
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    Originally Posted by Enveous View Post
    Haha, what do you mean by "starting strength" exactly?

    And I'll try to budget around a lot more pizzas I guess!
    Beginners Weight Training Program.


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    Originally Posted by Enveous View Post
    Hey everyone, gonna try to make this simple, easy to read, and organized.

    I'm 20 years old, never really done anything about my body. I eat what I want, when I want, however much I want. Although I started to realize a couple months back that I'm skinny because I overestimate my eating (shocking huh?).

    I've just now started eating larger helpings and fitting in random snacks and foods, and so I have noticed an increase in my ability to consume more at one time. Should be helpful.

    On to the goals.

    I'm 20, about 115lbs, and around 5'11" give or take 0.5" if it really matters. I have 7% body fat according to my physiology lab course about 2 years ago, not much has changed at all. My waist is around 29 inches.

    I'd like to start working on gaining weight, and a good solid workout routing to help me bulk up. My ideal goal weight for the next year or two is as close as possible to 150, although my ultimate goal weight is probably around 175 or so.

    I am currently in Manchester, UK for another 30 days, so all I have access to is a pull up bar I bought cheap, and my apartment. A gym membership costs $50 after fees etc. for the first month, but I'm really self-conscious about going in there. What to do? Can I make it with just a pull up bar and my apartment room for the first 30 days? (this is the gym, can't link yet puregym manchester-spinningfields )

    Back home I have friends to hit the gym with, a pull up bar, and free weights.

    Back on topic.

    I need general advice on how to go about things, and what workouts I can do in my apartment for these first 30 days. I have some Optimum nutrition weight gain I bought the other day, as well as a bunch more food to eat up on. I'm pretty sure I could hold off well on the diet part and eating the right amount of things, and enough of it, but I'm mainly wondering about workouts or if you've gone through this similar experience as me (skinny and bulked up).

    Any help is appreciated, and sorry if this posting is all over the place.
    Hey mate, im from the UK to. Should be able to pick up some tips from my youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/shreddybrek
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Beginners Weight Training Program.


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    Alright thanks.

    Also, I've noticed these past few days where I've been downing tons of food, that I keep getting REALLY sleepy. I'm powering through it but man I could just pass out. I'm getting about 8 hours of sleep every night too and wake up feeling fine. I take a weight gain shake in the morning and at night, and eat huge meals for lunch and dinner with snacks in between. I know my calories are surplus no doubt, but man am I sleepy.
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    Originally Posted by Enveous View Post
    Alright thanks.

    Also, I've noticed these past few days where I've been downing tons of food, that I keep getting REALLY sleepy. I'm powering through it but man I could just pass out. I'm getting about 8 hours of sleep every night too and wake up feeling fine. I take a weight gain shake in the morning and at night, and eat huge meals for lunch and dinner with snacks in between. I know my calories are surplus no doubt, but man am I sleepy.

    Why the weight gain shake? Eat real food.

    It will get better.
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    your probably getting sleepy because of the high amount of carbs. Try eating less carbs and more fat.

    try getting more peanut butter and fat cal dense foods
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Why the weight gain shake? Eat real food.

    It will get better.
    first things first

    do not take ANY advice off this poster (hes a known troll) stick with the knowledgeable experienced guys, an easy rule of thumb is to simply check the lifters stats out, if they weigh over 200lb and have some decent lifts you can safely say theyve successfully bulked up and trained correctly and can give you real life, experienced advice, if they have no stats/lifts or are small/weak but are claiming to be an expert its an obvious red flag
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    deadlift off blocks: 620lb
    front squat: 400lb
    push press: 230lb
    strict press: 200lb
    yoke walk; 730lb
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    pause incline: 225lb for reps
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    Originally Posted by TaxusBaccata View Post
    first things first

    do not take ANY advice off this poster (hes a known troll) stick with the knowledgeable experienced guys, an easy rule of thumb is to simply check the lifters stats out, if they weigh over 200lb and have some decent lifts you can safely say theyve successfully bulked up and trained correctly and can give you real life, experienced advice, if they have no stats/lifts or are small/weak but are claiming to be an expert its an obvious red flag


    First things first


    Ignore idiots that follow this form of "logic". It makes them (and you) appear ignorant and can lead to you looking like a COMPLETE dumbass to others (just like this person already does).
    A clear example would be this persons attempt(s) of front squatting....




    LMAO
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    First things first


    Ignore idiots that follow this form of "logic". It makes them (and you) appear ignorant and can lead to you looking like a COMPLETE dumbass to others (just like this person already does).
    A clear example would be this persons attempt(s) of front squatting....




    LMAO
    itt: eric doesnt understand anything about the human body and how blood supply to the brain can be interrupted by pressure on the throat, and in his ignorance tries to mock someone who can front squat his back squat for multiple reps while training 1/4 of the time hes been training, looks like my 'attempt at front squats' is pretty successful LMAO

    here is a question for eric to answer to prove he isnt a complete potato

    1. why would someone who is knowledgeable about dieting and strength training lift for more than 1-2 years but still show no particular increase in weight or strength? you may answer in a numbered list form


    edit: ITT: eric says listening to the guys who have successfully achieved your goal (bulked up and got strong) makes you STUPID and look STUPID to others, this is a new level of non-logic from eric lmao, lets hope OP goes and talks to some strong guys and achieves his goals based on their experienced advice rather than getting trolled by a sad child on the internet
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    front squat: 400lb
    push press: 230lb
    strict press: 200lb
    yoke walk; 730lb
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    pause incline: 225lb for reps
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    also itt: eric tells a trainee they should eat one pizza (around 1000 calories) a day and do a routine he has never tried but he heard about on the internet (no experience on whether it works or not) without knowing anything about their calorific maintenance or diet, but im the idiot lmao.

    OP i recommend you think critically, if a guy comes to you and tells you hes an expert on dieting and lifting weights and you should listen to everything he says if you wanna get big, assess the guy. if hes been lifting for years but hes skinny and weak, ask yourself why his methods dont work for him but they will magically work for you? the guy to ask is a guy like myself who started off weighing 140lb benching the bar and is now 217lb of muscle and climbing, eric will tell you i know nothing about training and dieting and im a moron, can anyone spot the logical hole here?
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    deadlift off blocks: 620lb
    front squat: 400lb
    push press: 230lb
    strict press: 200lb
    yoke walk; 730lb
    farmers walk: 315lb each hand
    pause incline: 225lb for reps
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    Originally Posted by TaxusBaccata View Post
    also itt: eric tells a trainee they should eat one pizza (around 1000 calories) a day and do a routine he has never tried but he heard about on the internet (no experience on whether it works or not) without knowing anything about their calorific maintenance or diet, but im the idiot lmao.

    OP i recommend you think critically, if a guy comes to you and tells you hes an expert on dieting and lifting weights and you should listen to everything he says if you wanna get big, assess the guy. if hes been lifting for years but hes skinny and weak, ask yourself why his methods dont work for him but they will magically work for you? the guy to ask is a guy like myself who started off weighing 140lb benching the bar and is now 217lb of muscle and climbing, eric will tell you i know nothing about training and dieting and im a moron, can anyone spot the logical hole here?

    Wait so you benched 45 lbs the first time but deadlifted 330 the first time?

    What the ****
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    Originally Posted by Jaywalking View Post
    Wait so you benched 45 lbs the first time but deadlifted 330 the first time?

    What the ****

    This


    I literally look at the first few words of his posts now, cringe. And then forget about the thread.

    Funny how I can make people waste time making cringe worthy posts that aren't even true, and I don't even read. lmao
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    Originally Posted by Jaywalking View Post
    Wait so you benched 45 lbs the first time but deadlifted 330 the first time?

    What the ****
    another american who thinks you deadlift with your triceps, not my problem lol

    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    This


    I literally look at the first few words of his posts now, cringe. And then forget about the thread.

    Funny how I can make people waste time making cringe worthy posts that aren't even true, and I don't even read. lmao
    yet again, eric says 'youre an idiot you dont understand logic!!!!!' then refuses to back up any of his points ever with any information, good debating skills eric, luckily this is a public forum so everyone can see and understand
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    push press: 230lb
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    Originally Posted by Jaywalking View Post
    Wait so you benched 45 lbs the first time but deadlifted 330 the first time?

    What the ****
    i legit started with 35 lbs dumbells on bench, and deadlifted 352 the first time i deadlifted.
    that was 9 months into lifting tho.

    O.T

    get on a good beginner programm like ICF 5x5.
    eat like you're going in hybernation.
    just start going to the gym with friends for the first few times and let them explain the basics so you can follow the programm.
    one thing to remember about going to the gym, not a single guy in there that did not feel like a skinny noob going for the first time, but if you put in efford, people will be supportive to you 115 lbs or 225 lbs.

    report back when 150 lbs.
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    You want to eat more food than you ever thought possible. Eat more. I don't care how much you are eating, eat more.

    Look up a simple 3x5 workout plan (there's a bunch on here) and just start watching tons of YouTube videos. Stay away from watching one single channel though, watch multiple because a lot of things about fitness are opinion based.

    Check out Elliott Hulse, Hodge Twins, Marc Lobliner, Scooby, Physiques of Greatness and more. You'll get all of the info you need if you're watching tons and tons of videos and put together your own opinions of what you think works and doesn't work.

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    You want to eat more food than you ever thought possible. Eat more. I don't care how much you are eating, eat more.

    Look up a simple 3x5 workout plan (there's a bunch on here) and just start watching tons of YouTube videos. [B]Stay away from watching one single channel though, watch multiple because a lot of things about fitness are opinion based[B].

    Check out Elliott Hulse, Hodge Twins, Marc Lobliner, Scooby, Physiques of Greatness and more. You'll get all of the info you need if you're watching tons and tons of videos and put together your own opinions of what you think works and doesn't work.

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    this is also very good advice, youtube has a lot of great information you just need to triple check it.
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    Originally Posted by TaxusBaccata View Post
    another american who thinks you deadlift with your triceps, not my problem lol



    yet again, eric says 'youre an idiot you dont understand logic!!!!!' then refuses to back up any of his points ever with any information, good debating skills eric, luckily this is a public forum so everyone can see and understand

    Right.. Because I pointed out the FLAWS

    And innaccuracies of your "logic". You should really try reading and comprehending basic English brother. Lmao
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Right.. Because I pointed out the FLAWS

    And innaccuracies of your "logic". You should really try reading and comprehending basic English brother. Lmao
    ah the standard eric reply to anyone who points out the inexplicable gap between his claimed expertise, training time and small weak physique and silly routines and advice, YOU CANT READ!!!!!! everyone who reads your deflections cringes lmao, you wont get far in the real world kid
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    Originally Posted by TaxusBaccata View Post
    another american who thinks you deadlift with your triceps, not my problem lol
    Nowhere in my post did I state that you should chill you seem prejudiced against americans

    Most people start with a much different bench and deadlift ratio and 45:330 or 20:150 is a much different ratio then the average beginner who starts with 95-155 pounds on the deadlift, you seem bent on accusing americans of having incredibly weak deadlifts compared to their bench when in reality everyone builds strength on different lifts at different paces?



    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    This


    I literally look at the first few words of his posts now, cringe. And then forget about the thread.

    Funny how I can make people waste time making cringe worthy posts that aren't even true, and I don't even read. lmao
    ????

    No idea how you inferred that from this post

    So you just said that write erroneous, cringe worthy posts and say you don't actually read them ........ um ok
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    Originally Posted by Jaywalking View Post
    Nowhere in my post did I state that you should chill you seem prejudiced against americans

    Most people start with a much different bench and deadlift ratio and 45:330 or 20:150 is a much different ratio then the average beginner who starts with 95-155 pounds on the deadlift, you seem bent on accusing americans of having incredibly weak deadlifts compared to their bench when in reality everyone builds strength on different lifts at different paces?




    seemed like you were calling me out for fake lifts, if not then i apologise, i have nothing against americans but i see a trend among the american posters on here of typically having a much higher bench in relation to deadlift and ive been asked by a few different guys why my bench is 'low in relation to my other lifts', overall i get an impression that young american lifters put a much higher emphasis on bench. in relation to my own lifts, firstly i would point out that i have long (and originally very thin but now not so much) arms and legs which means i find deadlifting extremely easy but have a long rom on pressing movements, i would also say that deadlift is less affected by low bodyweight than bench and that a guy who was 'naturally strong' like myself when they started out lifting, found picking a heavy object up off the floor a very natural movement while lying down and benching an unnatural one
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    Originally Posted by TaxusBaccata View Post
    seemed like you were calling me out for fake lifts, if not then i apologise, i have nothing against americans but i see a trend among the american posters on here of typically having a much higher bench in relation to deadlift and ive been asked by a few different guys why my bench is 'low in relation to my other lifts', overall i get an impression that young american lifters put a much higher emphasis on bench. in relation to my own lifts, firstly i would point out that i have long (and originally very thin but now not so much) arms and legs which means i find deadlifting extremely easy but have a long rom on pressing movements, i would also say that deadlift is less affected by low bodyweight than bench and that a guy who was 'naturally strong' like myself when they started out lifting, found picking a heavy object up off the floor a very natural movement while lying down and benching an unnatural one
    No lol that's not what I was saying. But yes most americans put more focus on the bench over lower body lifts, as they have lifts like S/B/D 0/225/185 or weird sh*t like that or tend to have 225/315 or whatever but the ones that hop on regimented strength programs tend to start with something like S/B/D 95/75/145 in lbs or Bar/Bar/95

    I have a 6 foot 1 wingspan at 5 foot 8 / 185.5 wingspan at 173 cm so I understand the bench not being the favorite lift
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    Originally Posted by Jaywalking View Post
    ????

    No idea how you inferred that from this post

    So you just said that write erroneous, cringe worthy posts and say you don't actually read them ........ um ok
    like idc really its cool and all i just didnt think thatd be the stock response to what i said LOL
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    Originally Posted by Enveous View Post
    I'm enjoying the show, and this popcorn is adding up. Oh, the advice is great too.
    ^^

    Oh and OP id go with BLSS Over Starting strength
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