All Private Guns Will Be Confiscated By September 2009, Kissinger Tells Russia

[Fist-Of-Freedom]

Kremlin reports on the extraordinary meeting held today between President Medvedev and former United States Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger (under Nixon), James Baker (under Bush Sr.), Charles Shultz (under Regan), former United States Defense Secretary William Perry (under Clinton), and former US Senator and top defense expert Sam Nunn, are stating that the Americans are acknowledging for the first time their acceptance of a New Global Order in which they seek to partner with natural resource rich Russia and the oil rich Nations of the Middle East in order to ensure their survival into the 21st Century.

Leading the United States to the shocking conclusion that their very survival is at risk has been the evaporation of 45 percent of the World?s wealth which has caused a rapid plunge in Global manufacturing leading to a 49 percent collapse in US trade exports which the International Monetary Fund is reported has caused the World?s economy to shrink for the first time in 60 years and has lead Canada?s Central Bank chief David Dodge to state the World is ?facing a long and deep recession that will fundamentally alter the nature of capitalism?.

Though Prime Minister Putin has warned that ?resorting to a printing press would be unwise and extremely dangerous?, the already bankrupt United States, whose staggering debt is four times higher than their entire National income, has allowed its Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Ben ?Throw Money Out of Helicopters? Bernanke to ?create out of thin air? a further $1.2 Trillion to stabilize the American economy, but which in turn has led to the collapse of the US Dollar leading the United Nations to recommend next week that the World ?ditch the dollar as its reserve currency in favor of a shared basket of currencies?.

Russian economists further state in these reports that the United States has been left with ?no other option? than to force the massive devaluation of the US Dollar in order to ?shake lose? from banks and private investors the hundreds of billions they are currently hoarding and is being blamed for collapsing a United States where consumer spending accounts for two-thirds of its economy and which without money to borrow, or borrowers to loan to, is fast approaching the abyss.

With the devaluation of the US dollar, however, massive inflation will ensue causing the value of these currently hoarded hundreds of billions of US Dollars to plummet and forcing them to be spent before they become totally worthless, a policy which China, the largest Global holder of US debt, has voiced increasing concerns about and have cut back on their purchases of American debt even as desperation hits their own factories as orders plunge.

These top American Officials have also assured President Medvedev that new laws being written by the Obama administration will ?completely? reform the American financial system by fully integrating it into a single Global Economy due to be enacted during the coming G-20 summit in London.

When President Medvedev voiced his concerns to the Americans over his belief that the US Congress would not allow such a radical new set of laws to pass, these reports continue, Kissinger stated that the American people were being ?primed? to overwhelm their lawmakers into swiftly enacting ?in its entirety? the Obama administrations new banking and financial laws by the outrageous behavior of those collapsed financial giants that includes: 1.) The insurance giant AIG which after receiving over $300 billion in US taxpayer money paid out nearly $200 million in bonuses; 2.) The collapsed stock selling giant Merrill Lynch which after receiving $20 billion in US taxpayer money paid out $3.6 billion in bonuses; and 3.) The collapsed US banking giant Citigroup who after receiving $45 billion in US taxpayer money announced a $10 million redecoration of their executive office suites.

News from the United States today further confirm Kissinger?s assertions to President Medvedev as US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has now admitted that he had ordered US Senator Christopher Dodd to include the executive pay provision into the stimulus bill which was, in fact, a loophole allowing these controversial bonuses to be paid out.

To such machinations being utilized by their supposed leaders against them in order to pave the road from a once sovereign United States to this New World Order these Americans remain nearly clueless, but when pressed by President Medvedev on the plans to ensure that civil society on the North American continent doesn?t break down Kissinger reportedly replied, "By September we'll have confiscated all privately owned guns so it really doesn't matter what we do, we'll still be in charge"

Russian Intelligence reports state that gun ownership statistics in the United States vary widely, but is estimated to be that nearly 50 percent of US households have nearly 270 million guns, none of which these Americans seem now ready to part with without a fight.

But, new reports coming from the United States show that they are fast adopting the tactics used by the German Nazis to disarm their society prior to the installation of fascist rule and martial law by first rendering all private guns useless by eliminating and restricting the ammunition they use. And from new reports coming from the United States we can see that this ?plan? is already being instituted with ammunition shortages being reported in Idaho, Georgia, and Louisiana, and a new law just introduced in California which would:

1. Stop the private transfer between individuals of more than 50 rounds of ammunition.

2. License and tax anyone selling handgun ammunition commercially and force these stores to get background checks on anyone selling ammunition.

3. Get a thumbprint from anyone buying handgun ammunition.

4. Ban all ammunition sales that don't take place face-to- face, in other words, ban mail-order sales.

Even more chilling for American gun owners was the Obama administrations order to the US Military on March 12 which stated: ?Effective immediately DOD Surplus, LLC, will be implementing new requirements for mutilation of fired shell casings. The new DRMS requirement calls for DOD Surplus personnel to witness the mutilation of the property and sign the Certificate of Destruction.? which would have crippled the US ammunition industry, who are the largest purchasers of used military ammunition brass, but after found out about by US Senators was quickly withdrawn.

To the reasons feared by the leadership class in the United States of their citizens retaining the right to firearms we can read:

?As the growing world-wide economic crisis deepens, military forces from Canada, the United States, and the United Kingdom are preparing to meet angry citizens on the street. The economic crisis - and the public outrage it is causing - is at the forefront of intelligence agencies and military forces in the western world.

Prominent trends forecaster Gerald Celente has been sounding the alarm for years, warning that riots and tax revolts are coming to America. The Pentagon, U. K. Ministry of Defense, and Canadian military apparently agree. In November of 2008 the United States Army War College released the report Known Unknowns: Unconventional "Strategic Shocks" in Defense Strategy Development. The report identifies economic collapse as a reason for the defense establishment to conduct domestic operations. The report states,

"Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security. Deliberate employment of weapons of mass destruction or other catastrophic capabilities, unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency..."

The CIA and MI5 are both watching the economic situation for signs of unrest and political instability. As the Washington Post reports, the CIA has added an economic situation report to its threat assessment for the White House. A further sign that the United States government is anticipating widespread unrest comes with the domestic stationing of the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division. The Army Times reports,

"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."

Canadian military forces have been given a nearly identical domestic mission in a synchronized move with the United States. Canada's National Post reports that,

"The Canadian military has embarked on a wide-ranging plan to turn its reserve soldiers into focused units trained and equipped to respond to a nightmarish array of domestic threats, including terrorist "dirty bomb" attacks, biological agent containment, Arctic catastrophes and natural disasters.?

Reports from the United States are also revealing that for the first time since their Civil War, active duty US Army Troops were put into the streets of Alabama after the killing spree of a crazed gunman, but which the US Army is now reporting it is ?investigating? because it doesn?t know who deployed them.

To whom the leadership elite in America are actually planning on protecting themselves from we can further read: ?A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned.

The Feb. 20 report called "The Modern Militia Movement" mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature.?

As to what these dangerous American terrorists can expect once they are in the custody of their US intelligence services?

?The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) concluded in 2007 that US methods to extract information from prisoners at secret CIA jails as part of the "war on terror" amounted to torture.?

Even worse for these dissident Americans are the chilling revelations from top investigative news journalist Seymour Hersh: ?After 9/11, I haven?t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven?t been called on it yet. That does happen.?

So today, as the United States ?watch list? for domestic and International terrorists has hit 1 million names, in a country that already has more prisoners than any other Nation in the World, or our entire Earths? history for that matter, and as sales of weapons and ammunition are still hitting record highs in America since President Obama?s election, it would appear more than likely that the assertions of US officials to Russia that they remain in control of their country is highly doubtful?and needing just one single ?spark? to plunge it into full scale civil war.

And whose to say that hasn?t been their ?plan? all along?

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[Fist-Of-Freedom]

I also found the same news on the following source with full links.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20...g/amdhepipyif8

http://www.nworeport.com/confiscated.htm

For people who doubt this can happen look what happened during Katrina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCf2O...eature=related

Bull****?

You decide.

8 months ago I honestly didn't believe Obama and the administration could pull off the **** I'm seeing today..

[Dave22reborn]

And if they're not, you're gonna look pretty stupid.

[Fist-Of-Freedom]

And if they're not, you're gonna look pretty stupid.

I never said they would - I'm just publishing what I read from another source.

Just the messenger man

[kappakai]

Just the messenger man

i'd shoot you, but dey took mah gunz!

[nutsy54]

I also found the same news on the following source with full links.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20...g/amdhepipyif8

http://www.nworeport.com/confiscated.htm

Um... The first link says nothing about mass gun confiscation. And the second link is clearly a wildly biased CT web site.

As much as I oppose damn near every policy put forth by President Obama:

(a) You're really going to have to provide some actual proof

(b) It's completely insane to believe that even if such legislation was magically and instantly passed, that ALL firearms in this country could be "confiscated" within the next six months. That's 250 MILLION items to be collected - even if it was truly peaceful and voluntary, the logistics are impossible. And it obviously wouldn't be peaceful and voluntary.

Seriously - just a little bit of common sense reveals these endless, hysterical, paranoid delusions for what they are.

[lightningwatche]

They won't confiscate guns until after most of the ammo is gone. And you won't know about it because all the radio and TV will be controlled. You'll know it is happening when they come to your door, and you will give them your gun because you will know that you as one person can't stop them and you don't want to die for it or kill a soldier who is following orders.

As for the soldiers, the most patriotic ones will be in Afganistan at the time. Only the Obama supporters will be here, mostly from california. And he will have people pose as upset soldiers talk to other soldiers to see if they will admit to being against him. If so, they are arrested. People will not know who they can trust or talk to. That is how Hitler did it.

Don't sit around placing bets. Buy ammo, stock up on canned food, buy a gun, learn how to use it, put it in your closet.

Only problem is game theory: if they ask nicely while swearing it is for your good and that they would never hurt you, then you wonder if it is worth dying to resist them when maybe they are telling the truth. They won't tell you that you are their slave until AFTER they get all the guns.

[lightningwatche]

(a) You're really going to have to provide some actual proof




Just be prepaired. Dollars will lose value soon, so I'd start stocking up on stuff now. And if nothing goes bad, your food bill will be much lower later.

[scrag]

Um... The first link says nothing about mass gun confiscation. And the second link is clearly a wildly biased CT web site.

As much as I oppose damn near every policy put forth by President Obama:

(a) You're really going to have to provide some actual proof

(b) It's completely insane to believe that even if such legislation was magically and instantly passed, that ALL firearms in this country could be "confiscated" within the next six months. That's 250 MILLION items to be collected - even if it was truly peaceful and voluntary, the logistics are impossible. And it obviously wouldn't be peaceful and voluntary.

Seriously - just a little bit of common sense reveals these endless, hysterical, paranoid delusions for what they are.

This world is full of people who use/have used deceit, covert means and false flag events to propagate their agendas. This is how they get around the "proof" issue. They can get away with their agendas by arguing "no proof" until it is too late. History has shown this operating time and time again... false flags, tyrannical regimes waiting for the next group of suckers...

It is much more appropriate to be suspicious as this is how humans operate and history repeats itself...you only have to be a human being and live life to experience this...

Lack of 100% undeniable proof does not mean it does not happen...

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck...is actually the safer option.

[stateless]

Lack of 100& undeniable proof does not mean it does not happen...

The fact that it won't have happened by September 2009 will be proof though.

[nutsy54]

This world is full of people who use/have used deceit, covert means and false flag events to propagate their agendas. This is how they get around the "proof" issue. They can get away with their agendas by arguing "no proof" until it is too late. History has shown this operating time and time again... false flags, tyrannical regimes waiting for the next group of suckers...

History has also proven an endless stream of completely baseless, hysterical, delusional, paranoid theories just like this one - That never come true!

We've been hearing about the imminent war with Iran - for nearly five years. Every major world event is heralded as a "false flag attack", proving that martial law is imminent (looks out window...still no tanks).

And when this prediction also fails miserably in a few months, the textbook response will be the same as always: "Well, it could of happened, so we were right"

This one is so simple to refute, that you guys are complete jokes. 250,000,000 weapons will somehow be outlawed and confiscated, across an entire country, within six months. And you blindly believe this crap because a fringe web site and some YouTube videos told you to.

[nutsy54]

As for the soldiers, the most patriotic ones will be in Afganistan at the time. Only the Obama supporters will be here, mostly from california.

It's funny watching people try to support insane theories with completely absurd "proof". Do you actually think everyone will just blindly believe your statements as truth, when nothing about military deployments (out here in the real world) even has an option to deploy people based on their home state or political preferences?

Seriously, turn off the computer for a while, and step outside into some fresh air. Because whatever sites you've been visiting have been feeding you a non-stop line of bull****.


BRB... Bookmarked for review in September. See you guys then, either before or after a visit to the range with my Glock 21SF

[Devian]

They won't confiscate guns until after most of the ammo is gone. And you won't know about it because all the radio and TV will be controlled. You'll know it is happening when they come to your door, and you will give them your gun because you will know that you as one person can't stop them and you don't want to die for it or kill a soldier who is following orders.

As for the soldiers, the most patriotic ones will be in Afganistan at the time. Only the Obama supporters will be here, mostly from california. And he will have people pose as upset soldiers talk to other soldiers to see if they will admit to being against him. If so, they are arrested. People will not know who they can trust or talk to. That is how Hitler did it.

Don't sit around placing bets. Buy ammo, stock up on canned food, buy a gun, learn how to use it, put it in your closet.

Only problem is game theory: if they ask nicely while swearing it is for your good and that they would never hurt you, then you wonder if it is worth dying to resist them when maybe they are telling the truth. They won't tell you that you are their slave until AFTER they get all the guns.

LOL and you know this as fact because of what? You saw it on youtube? You read an Alex Jones article? You listened to other retarded posts here in the past couple years? Go ahead and keep thinking that there is something going on, in fact, you probably can't survive without feeding your brain worry food and being paranoid over absolutely nothing that has no solid evidence besides botched youtube videos, terribly written articles and quotes that are thrown WAY out of context on every occasion.

Have fun hiding in your closet with your gun and beans, and I suggest you transfer me all of your money before hand since you won't need it in your prison camps or if you die fighting for your freedom that is in such grave danger. And what ever happened to those FEMA camps we were all supposed to be thrown in last fall? Hmmmmm?

[Horseradish]

Nooooooo how will I do curls?

[rednecksamurai]

Funny I am reading this as I am getting ready to go to the Gun and Knife show.
My wife is eager to use those hard earned hand gun permits she finally got.

Nothing to do with the thread it just struck me as funny.

[all pro]

September of '09 seems rather ambitious to me. The legislation to form the brown shirts has only just past. I think Kissinger is off by at least 6 months. The stock market has to do a complete crash and burn, there have to be food shortages. That could happen within a few months. I suppose that marshal law could be selectively imposed in different locations and the people disarmed. The problem is that everyone would know what's going on and the resistance would increase. Oh well, only time will tell.

[jackamo2887]

Lmao..and so it begins again.

The multitude of predictions that will be made claiming some totalitarian event within the next 6 months to a year. Same thing happened on this forums last year and the year before.

Here is a prediction you can count on to come true: When I still have my guns come September, some other CTer will be making a thread claiming in the NEXT 6 months to a year all guns will be confiscated/marshal law/FEMA camps/War with Iran will happen.

Blah blah blah.

[all pro]

Lmao..and so it begins again.

The multitude of predictions that will be made claiming some totalitarian event within the next 6 months to a year. Same thing happened on this forums last year and the year before.

Here is a prediction you can count on to come true: When I still have my guns come September, some other CTer will be making a thread claiming in the NEXT 6 months to a year all guns will be confiscated/marshal law/FEMA camps/War with Iran will happen.

Blah blah blah.

I hope you have ammunition for those guns....lots of it.

[stateless]

September of '09 seems rather ambitious to me. The legislation to form the brown shirts has only just past. I think Kissinger is off by at least 6 months. The stock market has to do a complete crash and burn, there have to be food shortages. That could happen within a few months. I suppose that marshal law could be selectively imposed in different locations and the people disarmed. The problem is that everyone would know what's going on and the resistance would increase. Oh well, only time will tell.

It can't happen. If the government tried to disarm a single state, people would know about it, and they would kill the movement. I don't buy that people would just give up their arms. They'd fight be willing to fight to the death. Those set to disarm them would know this, hence such an attempt would never even get off the ground. These are guns, they can't simply be "taken away". The only way it could occur is if the law changed, but even then people will just hide their weapons. Nobody is going to go house to house, checking for weapons. Guns are here to stay.

[Fist-Of-Freedom]

i'd shoot you, but dey took mah gunz!

You're from California.

[all pro]

It can't happen. If the government tried to disarm a single state, people would know about it, and they would kill the movement. I don't buy that people would just give up their arms. They'd fight be willing to fight to the death. Those set to disarm them would know this, hence such an attempt would never even get off the ground. These are guns, they can't simply be "taken away". The only way it could occur is if the law changed, but even then people will just hide their weapons. Nobody is going to go house to house, checking for weapons. Guns are here to stay.

Urrm...New Orleans.
'nuff said.

[Fist-Of-Freedom]

It can't happen. If the government tried to disarm a single state, people would know about it, and they would kill the movement. I don't buy that people would just give up their arms. They'd fight be willing to fight to the death. Those set to disarm them would know this, hence such an attempt would never even get off the ground. These are guns, they can't simply be "taken away". The only way it could occur is if the law changed, but even then people will just hide their weapons. Nobody is going to go house to house, checking for weapons. Guns are here to stay.

Did you even watch the videos? Do some research on Katrina.

[IraHays]

Henry Kissenger???

lmao. He propably has alzheimer's and thinks its 1972.

[all pro]

Henry Kissenger???

lmao. He propably has alzheimer's and thinks its 1972.

Your argument fails. He's been advocating a one world government for decades.

[Fist-Of-Freedom]

Henry Kissenger???

lmao. He propably has alzheimer's and thinks its 1972.

Wrong.

This past month on the NYSE.

For other nations, utopia is a blessed past never to be recovered; for Americans it is just beyond the horizon.

The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.

Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.

NAFTA represents the single most creative step towards a New World Order.

It cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change its perceptions.

What will it take for people to see? How can it be any more obvious?

[IraHays]

What will it take for people to see? How can it be any more obvious?

So when we still have our guns in September will you stfu?

[Fist-Of-Freedom]

So when we still have our guns in September will you stfu?

Nope, because we will. When did I say we wouldn't?

And I'll never STFU as long as the NWO has it's agenda in high gear.

[stateless]

Did you even watch the videos? Do some research on Katrina.

That was in the face of a natural disaster that devastated the area. How does this compare to removing the guns from all americans? We can debate it all day long, but the fact of the matter is, that it isn't going to happen. You can worry about the nation being disarmed until you're 90, but again, it isn't going to happen.

[Fist-Of-Freedom]

That was in the face of a natural disaster that devastated the area. How does this compare to removing the guns from all americans? We can debate it all day long, but the fact of the matter is, that it isn't going to happen. You can worry about the nation being disarmed until you're 90, but again, it isn't going to happen.

This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.

When people are presented with a disaster and stress, they will give up any rights to remain 'safe'.

Google "False flag attacks"

They have been around for centuries - and used by powers to sway public opinion.

Fact.

[Steak_n_Taters]

Lmao..and so it begins again.

LOL. Aware.

Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.