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    Flavoring Homemade Pre Workout Drink

    So I make my own pre workout drink, currently it consists of:

    Cheap Supplements Arginine 5g
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    Cheap Supplements BCAA 2.5g

    Then 8 weeks on & 4 weeks off I add Cheap Supplements Creatine 5g

    I normally mix it all with half a Blue No Carb Rockstar Energy Drink.

    I have gotten great results with this, but I'm curious if anyone has any other suggestions on a flavored mixer that is low carb/low cal (preferably cheaper than the Rockstar). It doesn't have to be an energy drink. Ideally, I'm looking for a flavored powder
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    Go to walmart and go to the juice section. You will find tons of powders like gatorade or kool aid and many other flavored powders.

    Also I would consider dropping arginine from your blend 5 grams wont really do anything
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    inb4 don't need to cycle creatine
    You don't need to cycle creatine, you need to load it.
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    Originally Posted by PaintPir View Post
    Go to walmart and go to the juice section. You will find tons of powders like gatorade or kool aid and many other flavored powders.

    Also I would consider dropping arginine from your blend 5 grams wont really do anything
    I technically get 15g of arginine a day (5g in the morn, 5g before & after workout). Ive had great results using it. The pure stuff just taste like ****! lol

    The only problem I see with Gatorade, etc. is its FULL of sugars! Was thinking maybe Crystal Lite maybe to avoid the sugar...
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    Originally Posted by jerz_llano View Post
    I technically get 15g of arginine a day (5g in the morn, 5g before & after workout). Ive had great results using it. The pure stuff just taste like ****! lol

    The only problem I see with Gatorade, etc. is its FULL of sugars! Was thinking maybe Crystal Lite maybe to avoid the sugar...
    You wont be using that much to flavor it so the sugar wont be that big of a deal, there are plenty of low sugar or sugar free powders available.

    Studies show an effective dose of creatine is around 30 grams and thats through and IV.
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    Arginine = useless
    Creatine = no need to load at all, no need to cycle (but could as per personal preference).
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    For Taste -

    Gatorade Propel Zero Mix
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    New product called MIO - concentrated sugar free liquid drink mix
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    Originally Posted by DBee View Post
    You don't need to cycle creatine, you need to load it.
    I've done a lot of research in regards to cycling & loading Creatine. Most research I've came across says its not necessary to "load". I have tried loading in the past & never noticed a difference, however when I just cycle it I can def notice a change
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    ^^^ Came in to post Mio.

    Comes in a little squeeze bottle and you just squeeze out how much flavor you want. Comes in 8 flavors I believe and you can get it at your local big chain grocery store.
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    Originally Posted by Murderfox View Post
    Arginine = useless
    Creatine = no need to load at all, no need to cycle (but could as per personal preference).
    Why do you say Arginine is useless? Every prework drink I've seen has Arginine in it. I'm gonna add Citrulline Malate to it as well soon just low on funds right now...
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    Live Long makes flavoring.



    Your use of "cycling creatine" means you actually only reap the benefits of 4 weeks of creatine.


    Since it would probably take 4 weeks or so @ 5 grams daily to saturate, you then only use it for 4 more weeks before not using it anymore.


    You are basically wasting 4 weeks of creatine each time you "cycle it"
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    Originally Posted by WildBill0771 View Post
    ^^^ Came in to post Mio.

    Comes in a little squeeze bottle and you just squeeze out how much flavor you want. Comes in 8 flavors I believe and you can get it at your local big chain grocery store.
    yeah i've seen the commercials, might look into it
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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    Live Long makes flavoring.



    Your use of "cycling creatine" means you actually only reap the benefits of 4 weeks of creatine.


    Since it would probably take 4 weeks or so @ 5 grams daily to saturate, you then only use it for 4 more weeks before not using it anymore.


    You are basically wasting 4 weeks of creatine each time you "cycle it"
    I use 10g a day 5 before and 5 after. I'm trying to figure out a flavoring system more than anything. I'll look into "Live Long" Thanks
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    I use 10g a day 5 before and 5 after. I'm trying to figure out a flavoring system more than anything. I'll look into "Live Long" Thanks
    10 grams of creatine is overkill you only need 5 grams a day.

    Arginine has been shown in studies to be useless you can save some cash by dropping it out of your stack
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    I've done a lot of research in regards to cycling & loading Creatine. Most research I've came across says its not necessary to "load". I have tried loading in the past & never noticed a difference, however when I just cycle it I can def notice a change
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    10 grams of creatine is overkill you only need 5 grams a day.

    Arginine has been shown in studies to be useless you can save some cash by dropping it out of your stack
    I'll try dropping it for a few weeks and see if I see any difference...What do you think of adding 2g Citrulline Malate before WO?
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    I'll try dropping it for a few weeks and see if I see any difference...What do you think of adding 2g Citrulline Malate before WO?



    bump that up to 4-6 grams
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    yeah i've seen the commercials, might look into it
    Mio IMO has an extremely artificial taste, but I'm sure its better than those bulk ingredients would taste alone.
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    Don't care for some of the things you wanna add to it, but you could always buy a strongly flavoured supp like Xtend, and use say 1 scoop to flavour the rest of the stuff.
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    And this is why my job, in the supplement/nutrition industry is so hard. So many meat heads and body builders spreading stupid and false information.

    First of all, lets address your stack. Drop the L-Arginine and supplement 6g of Citrulline Malate instead. Not because it is useless, and anyone who says it is clearly knows nothing about this sort of stuff, but because Citrulline malate gets l-arginine into your body more efficiently and faster than if you just took straight L-arginine. Weird huh?

    Secondly, creatine does not need to be loaded. Thats a scam created by the industry so you go through a month supply of creatine in 5 days and have to buy more from them.

    Thirdly, an effective does of creatine being 30g of creatine? Are you stupid? IF your body could use that much, which it can't, you would have to drink like 4 litres of water during your workout to avoid dying of dehydration. Your body can only hold and use 5 grams of creatine at a time, and your body produces 1-2g of creatine natural depending on health and age. It's only really benifical to supplement 3g of creatine at a time or your wasting your creatine. That being said I'd take creatine before and after your workout because creatine will hydrate your muscles and help them recover faster.

    L-arginine is not useless, but it has different effects for different people. L-arginine is a vascular dialater and will open your veins and allow more blood, and in turn, more oxygen to your muscles. However, doses of l-arginine varies from person to person, thus the stupid misconception that it is "useless".

    I'd bump beta-alanine up to at least 3g unless you're sensitive to it. It doesn't accomplish much any lower than that. Beta-alanine turns into an acid that your muscles.. Feed off of for lack of a better word. It also trips protein receptors under your skin, thus the tingling or burning sensation. Didn't have to explain any of that, just wanted to lol.

    I'd probably double your intake of BCAA's, as they are super important especially since our food, even organic, aren't as nutrient dense as they used to be, so you wont be getting as much from your diet. They're important for and used in most processes in your body, so it's not just being used for your recovery or muscle growth, it's being divided and used for everything.

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    Originally Posted by BartmanLlama View Post
    And this is why my job, in the supplement/nutrition industry is so hard. So many meat heads and body builders spreading stupid and false information.

    First of all, lets address your stack. Drop the L-Arginine and supplement 6g of Citrulline Malate instead. Not because it is useless, and anyone who says it is clearly knows nothing about this sort of stuff, but because Citrulline malate gets l-arginine into your body more efficiently and faster than if you just took straight L-arginine. Weird huh?

    Secondly, creatine does not need to be loaded. Thats a scam created by the industry so you go through a month supply of creatine in 5 days and have to buy more from them.

    Thirdly, an effective does of creatine being 30g of creatine? Are you stupid? IF your body could use that much, which it can't, you would have to drink like 4 litres of water during your workout to avoid dying of dehydration. Your body can only hold and use 5 grams of creatine at a time, and your body produces 1-2g of creatine natural depending on health and age. It's only really benifical to supplement 3g of creatine at a time or your wasting your creatine. That being said I'd take creatine before and after your workout because creatine will hydrate your muscles and help them recover faster.

    L-arginine is not useless, but it has different effects for different people. L-arginine is a vascular dialater and will open your veins and allow more blood, and in turn, more oxygen to your muscles. However, doses of l-arginine varies from person to person, thus the stupid misconception that it is "useless".

    I'd bump beta-alanine up to at least 3g unless you're sensitive to it. It doesn't accomplish much any lower than that. Beta-alanine turns into an acid that your muscles.. Feed off of for lack of a better word. It also trips protein receptors under your skin, thus the tingling or burning sensation. Didn't have to explain any of that, just wanted to lol.

    I'd probably double your intake of BCAA's, as they are super important especially since our food, even organic, aren't as nutrient dense as they used to be, so you wont be getting as much from your diet. They're important for and used in most processes in your body, so it's not just being used for your recovery or muscle growth, it's being divided and used for everything.

    If you have any questions and don't want to ask a bunch of guys that don't know what they're talking about, you can Email me at BenSuppFacts@hotmail.com
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