As weights go up... ROM going down.

[Chauboy]

I notice this basically with every exercise I do except for deadlift.

For bench, on my third set, I usually cheat my ROM, so I don't go as far down as I usually do, probably slightly less than 90 degrees.

For military press, with 55lb dumbbells I only go to 90 degrees, but with 45 lb dumbbells I can go more than 90 degrees.

For pendlay rows, with 135 lb barbell I can pull the barbell all the way up to chest, but with 165 lbs my arms go slightly more than halfway.

So should I lower my weights (and swallow my pride)?

[Footballmuscle5]

no.. that just means you're doing too much weight. reduce the weight to get proper form. while i'm not an advocate for PERFECT form, touch your chest on bench press, and 90 degrees on db press isn't that bad IMO

[touchofevil04]

So should I lower my weights (and swallow my pride)?

The answer is yes.

[jmonty]

at the very least i'd say 'cheating' is ok toward the end of your workouts. but if you are doing 5 sets of teh full body curl i would call shenanigans.

[Chauboy]

If that's the case... I basically haven't done **** the past 8 weeks I've worked out... in terms on increasing weight.

[Bodypump]

If that's the case... I basically haven't done **** the past 8 weeks I've worked out... in terms on increasing weight.

always try to keep strict form, but also try to increase the poundages every week. Try to balance weight and form.

[Chauboy]

always try to keep strict form, but also try to increase the poundages every week. Try to balance weight and form.

Yes, I tried to increase weight by 5 a week for bench, pendlay rows.

For deadlift, I increase by 10 a week.

However for shoulder press with dumbbells, I can't increase the weight of that at all.

However, anytime I increase the weight, the ROM is noticeably worse.

[TheStreetKing]

I notice this basically with every exercise I do except for deadlift.

For bench, on my third set, I usually cheat my ROM, so I don't go as far down as I usually do, probably slightly less than 90 degrees.

For military press, with 55lb dumbbells I only go to 90 degrees, but with 45 lb dumbbells I can go more than 90 degrees.

For pendlay rows, with 135 lb barbell I can pull the barbell all the way up to chest, but with 165 lbs my arms go slightly more than halfway.

So should I lower my weights (and swallow my pride)?

Yes lower the weights, And before you know it you'll be back to where you were or past it in no time! Train your muscles, Not your ego!

[Chauboy]

Okay, so say this is how it goes...(and this is how I've been doing it.)

On Rippetoes:

3x5x135 pendlay rows (good form, full ROM)

next week:
3x5x140 (Completed all the reps, but 4/5 ROM, third set,was only going slightly more than half way)

so then the next pendlay row workout, do I stay on 140... OR go up to 145?

*Because every workout I increase weights NO matter what.... not sure if I'm doing it wrong.

[Retardo-pex]

I notice this basically with every exercise I do except for deadlift.

For bench, on my third set, I usually cheat my ROM, so I don't go as far down as I usually do, probably slightly less than 90 degrees.

For military press, with 55lb dumbbells I only go to 90 degrees, but with 45 lb dumbbells I can go more than 90 degrees.

For pendlay rows, with 135 lb barbell I can pull the barbell all the way up to chest, but with 165 lbs my arms go slightly more than halfway.

So should I lower my weights (and swallow my pride)?

Yes you should lower the weight until you build up enough strength to be able to go through the full ROM with your target weights. That's sort of like asking if a 200 lb row is too heavy for if you only move it a few inches.

Cheating has its place but I would guess you aren't at the level to have to worry about that just yet. Keep making progress.

[brighamw]

Yes you should lower the weight until you build up enough strength to be able to go through the full ROM with your target weights. That's sort of like asking if a 200 lb row is too heavy for if you only move it a few inches.

Cheating has its place but I would guess you aren't at the level to have to worry about that just yet. Keep making progress.

Mmm Hmmm...good advice, MAN!

[Birddog6424]

You may be at a plateau. Consider doing something to change it up.

If you have a spot, consider two or three weeks of strength exercises. Heavy weight, 2 to 3 reps. Thrre to five minutes rest between.

Another couple of options are drop sets, very heavy sets finished off with a last set of 25 reps, or negatives.

There are a lot of ways to mix it up and it's possible that's what you need.

[Chauboy]

Okay, so say this is how it goes...(and this is how I've been doing it.)

On Rippetoes:

3x5x135 pendlay rows (good form, full ROM)

next week:
3x5x140 (Completed all the reps, but 4/5 ROM, third set,was only going slightly more than half way)

so then the next pendlay row workout, do I stay on 140... OR go up to 145?

*Because every workout I increase weights NO matter what.... not sure if I'm doing it wrong.

Okay... bump on this question.

Good advice though on the other.