Review of Low-Carb Diets effects on Body Weight, Lipids and Cardiometabolic Risk

[Mrpb]

Among the key takeaways included in the statement:

Low- and very-low-carbohydrate diets, including ketogenic diets, are not superior to other weight loss diets and may severely restrict nutrient-dense foods that offer cardiovascular benefits.

While they may have advantages on appetite and reducing triglyceride levels and diabetes medication use, current evidence showed mixed effects on low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels.

There is no clear evidence for advantages related to other cardiometabolic risk markers.

While some patients prefer a low-carbohydrate eating pattern, which may be reasonable for short periods of time (<6 months), long-term compliance is challenging, and long-term benefits and risks are not fully understood.

Regardless of the weight loss strategy chosen, a patient-clinician discussion about the risks and benefits and patient preference is of vital importance, since many patients follow the diets without medical supervision, which can increase the risk of adverse effects.

The full scientific statement manuscript will be released in the Volume 13, Issue 4 Journal of Clinical Lipidology and will be accessible online at: www.lipidjournal.com. For the uncorrected proof, visit: : https://www.lipid.org/nla/review-cur...e-and-very-low

Additional authors of the document include: Julie B. Bolick, MS, RDN, CD, CLS, FNLA; Penny Kris-Etherton, PhD, RD, CS, FNLA; Geeta Sikand, RD, MA, CLS, FNLA; Karen E. Aspry, MD, MS, FACC, FNLA; Daniel E. Soffer, MD, FNLA, FACP; Kaye-Eileen Willard, MD, FNLA; and Kevin C. Maki, PhD, CLS, FNLA, FTOS, FACN.

https://www.lipid.org/nla/national-l...-carb-and-very

Full text: https://www.lipid.org/sites/default/...0Low%20CHO.pdf

[boo99]

This ain't gonna go well with the Keto Krusaders

Thanx for posting Mrpb!

[hardyboysare]

Pretty good in-depth article will have to read it all when I get the time.

I do find it crazy that followers of Keto believe that complete elimination of some of the most nutrition dense food sources namely some veg, most fruit, wholegrain and legumes would actually be healthy after all the studies supporting their benefits.

As for weight loss still can't understand why anyone questions that calories dictate weight for all healthy individuals not macros is beyond me.

Thanks for the post some very good info plus lots of references to expand into for further analysis.

[Mrpb]

Full PDF can be viewed here: https://www.lipid.org/sites/default/...0Low%20CHO.pdf

This ain't gonna go well with the Keto Krusaders

I hope they are paying attention. YW.

[AdamWW]

But insulin tho...

But carbs are non-essential tho...

But auto****y tho...

But glucose control tho...

[Ghawk21]

All the keto zealots are going to take away from this is "have advantages on appetite and reducing triglyceride levels." That's the beauty of cherry picking and only reading abstracts.

[broganoff]

Kinda funny watching Keto die it's deserved slow death. Most of the big OG talking heads such as Robb Wolf have quietly moved on and started adding carbs back into their diet. The only folks actively promoting it are those with an actual financial interest in Keto staying relevant.

IIRC, I heard there is another metabolic ward study with Gary Taubes' foundation that is in progress? The last one flopped, and Gary tried to blame it on the methodology. I think the one in progress follows a protocol approved by GT, so I wonder if he is still going to fly the Keto flag if/when the study flops?

[Mrpb]

Kinda funny watching Keto die it's deserved slow death. Most of the big OG talking heads such as Robb Wolf have quietly moved on and started adding carbs back into their diet.

That's funny. Peter Attia who founded the NuSi foundation together with Gary Taubes has also been adding carbs back into his diet.

[boo99]

That's funny. Peter Attia who founded the NuSi foundation together with Gary Taubes has also been adding carbs back into his diet.

Guess after a while of peddling that nonsense to the gullible, naive public, it was time to relax and spend that $$$ made while eating a huge bowl of pasta

[Mrpb]

Guess after a while of peddling that nonsense to the gullible, naive public, it was time to relax and spend that $$$ made while eating a huge bowl of pasta

Well they definitely made tons of money doing it but I do think they actually believed keto was superior.

[boo99]

Well they definitely made tons of money doing it but I do think they actually believed keto was superior.

Have they released any info that their mindsets have changed towards low carb/keto though that might screw with their egos?

[Mrpb]

Have they released any info that their mindsets have changed towards low carb/keto though that might screw with their egos?

I think Attia has said some things to that extent. He has left NuSi quite a while ago.

If you're interested in how much money they made: http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2018/...tion-that.html

[boo99]

I think Attia has said some things to that extent. He has left NuSi quite a while ago.

If you're interested in how much money they made: http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2018/...tion-that.html

I would imagine leaving NuSi is a statement in itself

Thanks for that link

[DougyF7]

I made a short little jingle regarding this topic for anyone who wants to hear me sing...

[Tommy W.]

Gonna re post link on the ******** arguments I get in with these KETO ads.

[Strawng]

That's funny. Peter Attia who founded the NuSi foundation together with Gary Taubes has also been adding carbs back into his diet.

Even Bro Rogan doesn't espouse the keto nonsense anymore. Keto will soon be dead to the general public, though I'm sure some other fad will take its place.

[AdamWW]

Even Bro Rogan doesn't espouse the keto nonsense anymore. Keto will soon be dead to the general public, though I'm sure some other fad will take its place.

As long as they can make money from it, it'll happen.

[Tigress84]

Finally.
Unfortunately, keto just started to rise in my country.

[SuffolkPunch]

Even Bro Rogan doesn't espouse the keto nonsense anymore. Keto will soon be dead to the general public, though I'm sure some other fad will take its place.

I'm going to say it will be some plant based paleo variant.

[WolfRose7]

I'm going to say it will be some plant based paleo variant.

Already is, big new training film showing all plant based high level athletes (produced by those same people of course) promoting it as far healthier and superior for training and recovery

https://gamechangersmovie.com/

[Mrpb]

yeah vegan diet will be the new fad diet.

[ncsuLuke]

See the problem with these studies is they weren't adding grassfed butter and MCT oil to their coffee. Everyone knows that's the secret to getting shredded.

[broganoff]

Already is, big new training film showing all plant based high level athletes (produced by those same people of course) promoting it as far healthier and superior for training and recovery

https://gamechangersmovie.com/

Yup. The Mind Pump guys made the exact same prediction.

I wonder if they are going to compare and contrast that handful of cherry picked vegan athletes to the tens of thousands of world class athletes who have omnivorous diets? Not likely.

I heard there are NBA and NFL players who have giant bags of peanut butter M&Ms in their locker. Maybe that's the secret to athleticism?

[AdamWW]

yeah vegan diet will be the new fad diet.

hasn't it been a fad for a little bit now?

[Mrpb]

hasn't it been a fad for a little bit now?

Check the movie clip.

[broganoff]

hasn't it been a fad for a little bit now?

This documentary will thrust it into the limelight, especially with James Cameron and Arnold behind it. It'll be the "proof" that vegans need to make their case.

[Mrpb]

Have we seen an influx of people claiming IF is the holy grail of fat loss and muscle gain? Yup.

Have we seen an influx of people claiming keto is the healthiest thing ever and will heal all disease? Yup.

Get ready for a sudden increase of vegan militants claiming that going vegan is the key to becoming ripped and healthier than ever.

[boo99]

As a CPT I have clients asking for diet advice all the time and each time it's usually along the lines of......

What do you think of the so and so diet and what do you think of this diet?

I usually say....Not much lol

As Adam said, this will continue because there's money to be had in brainwashing the public with silly diet nonsens

The clients are very desperate to get to their goal quick and they believe the fad diets will get them there quickly

[AdamWW]

Definitely lots of people do 24-72hour fasts right now as well...

It seems like fasting is still ramping up, people just keep starving themselves longer and longer.

[ncsuLuke]

Definitely lots of people do 24-72hour fasts right now as well...

It seems like fasting is still ramping up, people just keep starving themselves longer and longer.

I stumbled across the fasting subreddit once, that was disturbing to say the least. Lots of eating disorders going on there.