So what is considered heavy?

[J--]

I heard two posts recently, one said that 300 bench was nothing too special, and 400 was worthy of competing.

Yet I hear from my father, my retired trainer, my powerliting boss, watching other ppl in the gym, looking at Rippetoe's template, and observing world powerlifting stats, and listening to other information that 1500 points is very impressive, and most ppl don't even have the genetics to make it.

1500 would factor out to a 400 bench, a 500 squat, a 600 deadlift. Is this considered weak? If it is, what is strong? Again, I mean raw.

[Luke530]

I guess its relative...

heavy for who? it depends on how big someone is. for a 150lb guy, it's very good, for a 250lb powerlifter, it's decent.

MANY people can bench 300... 400 is a different story
A good 500lb squat is definately an accomplishment, same with a 600lb deadlift...

However, most powerlifters, when really good, will have a higher squat then deadlift. It eventually passes up the deadlift as the weight gets heavier.

IMO, 1500 is very respectable.

[bxbombers]

you've got to remember there is about a 50 pound internet curve for the big 3.

so if you can bench 300 in real life, on here you can easily get 350

[USMARINE8152]

you've got to remember there is about a 50 pound internet curve for the big 3.

so if you can bench 300 in real life, on here you can easily get 350

i thought it was a 75 pound curve....ya i can bench 400 with ease.

[Fallen_]

i thought it was a 75 pound curve....ya i can bench 400 with ease.

Pfftt .. I can go 450 for reps.

[VikingMan]

However, most powerlifters, when really good, will have a higher squat then deadlift. It eventually passes up the deadlift as the weight gets heavier.

For the most part, that is only true of powerlifters in gear. If you use a wider stance for your squats and you've got the right suit, BOOM, with some practice and as long as you really are a strong guy, you can add a couple hundred to your total right there. Deadlifts are NOT like that. Because of the nature of the lift, equipment doesn't generally help that much. Thus, you'll have plenty of equipped powerlifters who squat more than they pull. But if you step into a raw powerlifting meet, most of the guys there are gonna pull more than they squat. I certainly do.

you've got to remember there is about a 50 pound internet curve for the big 3.

so if you can bench 300 in real life, on here you can easily get 350

Thus the reason YouTube is so damn cool. If a guy claims to be able to bench 350, he should be able to provide video proof of his lift. And the best case scenario is if he keeps a training journal here so you can actually follow along and see his training AND his vids. It's hard to fake that stuff when you're actually going through the motions of hitting the gym, telling the guys who frequent your journal what your program looks like, what your goals are, etc.

[USMARINE8152]

Pfftt .. I can go 450 for reps.

sorry i meant to say i can curl 400 for reps...i can also ATG 770 for 10 reps!

u know what i am the strongest man in the world!

I also won the MR.O in 1975