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    Part 2: My Methyl-1,4ADDiol Experience

    I have finished my 2 week m1t cycle, and have done 2 weeks of pct with Nolva, and 1 week off.

    My previous cycle:
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    For part 2 of my cycle I will be doing 30mg a day of Methyl-1,4ADDiol for 30 days. I am using Sledge's tabs, and there are 90 tabs per bottle, so 1 bottle should be exactly what I need for this entire cycle. I will be taking Milk Thistle & Nolva pct.


    Stats:
    Height: 5'10"
    Weight: 187
    BF: Unknown, Estimating 10%
    Waist: 33"


    My Diet:
    I eat very clean. I average about 300g of protein per day. I drink 1 gallon or more of water per day.

    6AM - Milk with Soy Protein Cereal
    8AM - 2 Scoops ON 100% Whey Shake, 1 cup oatmeal, 1g ON Micronized Creatine, 1 Tspn Flax Oil
    10AM - 2 Scoops Syntrax I****trix, 1 cup oatmeal, 1g ON Micronized Creatine, 1 Tspn Flax Oil
    12PM - 2 Grilled Chicken Breast, Vegetables, Nuts
    3PM - Can of Tuna, Banana
    6PM - Dinner (Usually Grilled Chicken & Rice or similar)
    8PM - Deli Sliced Turkey, Apple
    10PM - 10AM - 2 Scoops Syntrax I****trix, 1g ON Micronized Creatine, 1 Tspn Flax Oil


    My Routine:
    I do a 5 day split with each workout taking about an hour. I am not doing cardio, however I do rollerblade some on weekends.

    Monday: Chest / Abs
    Tuesday: Back
    Wednesday: Legs
    Thursday: Rest
    Friday: Shoulders / Abs
    Saturday: Arms
    Sunday: Rest


    Other Supplements:
    ON Micronized Creatine, Flax Seed Oil, Multivitamin


    Strength:
    I expect strength to go up alot during this cycle, so I will be monitoring my lifts closely.

    BB Military Press: 155 lbs x 8
    Bench Press: 235 lbs x 8
    Standing Bicep Curls: 95 lbs x 8
    Squats: 315 lbs x 6
    Closegrip Bench: 155 lbs x 8
    Wide Grip Chins: 12



    I will post pictures on Monday, halfway through the cycle, at the end of the cycle, and after pct, so you can see visual changes. If there are any questions or comments please feel free to post.
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    Very detailed - I am just interested in the m 1 4 results compared to m1t. I hated the lethargy from m1t and the constant mind wandering, but I hear that is non existent with m 1 4. Good luck and watch the water retention - let us know how bad it gets.
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    Originally posted by LIFT2beHUGE
    Very detailed - I am just interested in the m 1 4 results compared to m1t. I hated the lethargy from m1t and the constant mind wandering, but I hear that is non existent with m 1 4. Good luck and watch the water retention - let us know how bad it gets.
    So far from the logs I've read the only side effects that people report are some muscle cramping. Potassium should help reduce this.

    The gains will probably be similar to m1t, but will take a bit longer to come on. Most users aren't noticing weight increase until after the first week or so. On m1t I jumped up 4 lbs in ~3 days.

    Yes, I am expecting some bloat from this cycle, but am looking forward to huge strength increases.
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    What brands sells the methyl 1,4 and 4 diol?
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    Originally posted by bigpoppa13
    What brands sells the methyl 1,4 and 4 diol?
    Methyl-1,4ADDiol is one ph, not two. It is sold by Sledge (www. noadvertising .com)
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    Originally posted by ke0
    but am looking forward to huge strength increases.
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    Originally posted by ke0
    So far from the logs I've read the only side effects that people report are some muscle cramping. Potassium should help reduce this.

    The gains will probably be similar to m1t, but will take a bit longer to come on. Most users aren't noticing weight increase until after the first week or so. On m1t I jumped up 4 lbs in ~3 days.

    Yes, I am expecting some bloat from this cycle, but am looking forward to huge strength increases.
    Good threads,bro...let us know how it goes!
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    Day Four:

    I have been on this stuff for about 3 1/2 days. I missed my workout this morning because I overslept and did not have a chance to take pictures. I will be in the gym tomorrow hitting the weights HARD so I will update then, pics and all.

    So far, no side effects.
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    Day Five:

    Hit the weights hard this morning. Weighed in at 190.8 lbs Weight is already up significantly. I'm sure most of it is water. Strength was about the same, except on wide grip chins I managed to get 15 on my first set as opposed to the usual 12.

    Libido is going strong. Appetite is increasing. No lethargy whatsoever and I have been sleeping like a baby.

    Pics are coming.
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    Originally posted by ronmolina
    Looking good!
    thanks.

    i think my strongest parts are my shoulders & back. my tri's & bi's need some work though.
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    Hey Ke0,

    I'm looking forward to seeing how you progress on this cycle.
    I'm considering an M-1,4Diol cycle in the future.

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    Day Six:

    Weighed in at 190.4 this morning. Strength remained about the same. No side effects to report other than my libido is really kicking. I think it is also recovering from my m1t cycle where it literally disappeared.
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    Day Seven:

    Weight this morning was 191.4. Had a good leg workout. Strength is about the same. No side effects to report. Since I started my cycle, every workout has been a productive one.
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    One more thing I forgot to mention. I did notice a slight cramp in my lower back similar to what I experienced on m1t, but not nearly as harsh. It didn't bother me at all, just thought I'd share.
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    Day Eight:

    Another good workout today. It was arm day and the pumps were incredible. Can't say if it was the m14add or not. Weight was 191.
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    Day Eleven:

    Weight: 192. No strength increases to report. I am noticing some increased acne and it's pissing me off.
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    How bad is the acne and where? Back, face?
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    I am breaking out on my face & back. I know it is the m14add because I have not broke out like this for several years. This is the first time I have noticed increased acne while on cycle. I have noticed it while on pct before, but it was always mild.
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    Day Twelve:

    Weight: 192. Had a good back workout. Nothing new to report.
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    Sorry to hijack thread

    Sorry to hear about the acne. I suffered from acne after just using ZMA and some on Andro Nitrate Fuel. I would use the newer Methylated PH compounds if I could find a sure way to not get any acne.

    HERE IS WHAT WORKED FOR ME, NO KIDDING.

    QUICK TIPS TO RID OF IT:

    -Vitamin B-5 megadose, first month use 10 grams a day, following maintain usage with 5 grams a day each week thereafter, to find your ideal range of low dosing.

    -PROACTIV: For the love of GOD, please get Proactiv, it will do what you need done, you do not have to suffer, I know what its like, I woke up many a morning while on PH's and could not get past what was happening to me. Not just pimples, but HUGE spots would develop, I MEAN HUGE, it was very disfiguring. PROACTIV was a gift from GOD, it worked wonders for me.

    I felt terrible, and vowed that I would never, ever touch another hormonal altering substance again, unless I started out with the proper acne meds.


    OTHER IDEAS I HAVE NOT TRIED BUT WOULD TRY IF I EVER DID ANOTHER PH cycle: Tetracycline, Monocycline, can be gotten over the internet. Only problem is they effect protein synthesizing from what I know.

    Please, if you need any other help in this matter, dont hesitate to PM me for any other advice. There are other threads talking about acne at this moment that may help as well.
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    I tried megadosing vitamin b5 at 10g a day for 3 months and it did nothing for me.

    I have never tried Proactiv, and may consider using it in the future.

    I am on Doryx (Doxycycline) and using Clindagel and it has helped alot.

    Once I am off this cycle I plan on using accutane to rid myself of acne once and for all.
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    I have noticed that Proactiv is less effective after the pimples have broke out at least for me. It's better than to get a prescription from your doctor for Clindamycin Phospate, an antibiotic topical solution. It gets rid of the zits within a couple of days.
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    Originally posted by genetic_deadend
    I have noticed that Proactiv is less effective after the pimples have broke out at least for me. It's better than to get a prescription from your doctor for Clindamycin Phospate, an antibiotic topical solution. It gets rid of the zits within a couple of days.
    Clindagel is Clindamycin Phospate. That's what I'm using now.
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