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    Egg appreciation thread

    Since eggs won the tournament, felt that they deserved this thread.

    I find eggs one of the most satiating things you can eat.

    They are also delicious in any form.

    They are the GOAT muscle building food.

    I’ll add an argument for why you need eggs in your diet. They are high in the essential nutrient choline, that many people don’t consume in adequate amounts.
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    ^^ Lol that's pretty funny, also considering they are technically gametes.

    In all seriousness though, I agree.

    While no individual food completes an entire diet, eggs are one of the best and most versatile by several metrics: nutrient profile, variety of preparation, ubiquity, affordability, and of course taste.

    If I had to pick a single greatest food, they would be it.
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    Since eggs won the tournament, felt that they deserved this thread.

    I find eggs one of the most satiating things you can eat.

    They are also delicious in any form.

    They are the GOAT muscle building food.

    I’ll add an argument for why you need eggs in your diet. They are high in the essential nutrient choline, that many people don’t consume in adequate amounts.
    I dunno about ‘delicious in any form’

    Raw eggs can fukk off ;-)
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    I dunno about ‘delicious in any form’

    Raw eggs can fukk off ;-)
    I actually think my homemade protein shake - half a litre of milk, 4 raw eggs and chocolate powder - tastes better than a whey shake.

    I don’t drink that shake anymore but if I were to make one again I would use 4 raw eggs, half a litre of milk, half a banana and some spoons of peanut butter. Hnnnnnnng
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    I actually think my homemade protein shake - half a litre of milk, 4 raw eggs and chocolate powder - tastes better than a whey shake.

    I don’t drink that shake anymore but if I were to make one again I would use 4 raw eggs, half a litre of milk, half a banana and some spoons of peanut butter. Hnnnnnnng
    Raw eggs are a very poor choice for bioavailable nutrition, including the protein which is not fully absorbed.

    Raw egg whites also block biotin absorption.

    So... for the 101th time... WHY do people do this?

    it's just not a good option... and they don't even add good flavor for the 300+ calories you're adding in.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Raw eggs are a very poor choice for bioavailable nutrition, including the protein which is not fully absorbed.

    Raw egg whites also block biotin absorption.

    So... for the 101th time... WHY do people do this?

    it's just not a good option... and they don't even add good flavor for the 300+ calories you're adding in.
    I don’t! Last time I drank a shake with raw eggs was in 2015. I prefer to eat my eggs.
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    I don’t! Last time I drank a shake with raw eggs was in 2015. I prefer to eat my eggs.
    In the post you said "I don’t drink that shake anymore but if I were to make one again I would use 4 raw eggs, half a litre of milk, half a banana and some spoons of peanut butter. Hnnnnnnng"


    Why would you, even knowing the info now, add 4 raw eggs... especially if you 'prefer to eat your eggs'?

    just confused...
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    In the post you said "I don’t drink that shake anymore but if I were to make one again I would use 4 raw eggs, half a litre of milk, half a banana and some spoons of peanut butter. Hnnnnnnng"


    Why would you, even knowing the info now, add 4 raw eggs... especially if you 'prefer to eat your eggs'?

    just confused...
    If I were to make THAT shake (a shake with raw eggs), I would make those tweaks for taste

    But I actually do think the taste would be better with the raw eggs added, though I realize the controversy of this statement lol
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    A recent study suggesting ingestion of whole eggs may have benefits over egg whites:

    https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/A..._weeks.17.aspx

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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Raw eggs are a very poor choice for bioavailable nutrition, including the protein which is not fully absorbed.

    Raw egg whites also block biotin absorption.

    So... for the 101th time... WHY do people do this?

    it's just not a good option... and they don't even add good flavor for the 300+ calories you're adding in.

    Are there any other studies besides the 5 patients with no colon that support that? or do people just kind of stick with that one for old time sake?
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    I nearly started a thread over eggs but may aswell post here.

    Eggs has always been seen as a staple of any good bodybuilding diet but how come bacon doesn't get the same credit?

    They are both similar in terms of fat and protein, protein in eggs being just slightly higher.

    How come eggs are constantly mentioned in a bodybuilders diet but not bacon?
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    Originally Posted by BlueDay93 View Post
    I nearly started a thread over eggs but may aswell post here.

    Eggs has always been seen as a staple of any good bodybuilding diet but how come bacon doesn't get the same credit?

    They are both similar in terms of fat and protein, protein in eggs being just slightly higher.

    How come eggs are constantly mentioned in a bodybuilders diet but not bacon?
    Bacon is higher in calories. So more protein per calorie in eggs. That’s one reason at least.
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    ^^ I would guess because it is more expensive, harder/messier to prepare

    Despite that, I am a fan of it too. Apparently it has some advantageous health properties (fact check?), and it is pretty low calorie actually for how tasty and sating it is to add a couple of slices to your meal.
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    ^^ I would guess because it is more expensive, harder/messier to prepare

    Despite that, I am a fan of it too. Apparently it has some advantageous health properties (fact check?), and it is pretty low calorie actually for how tasty and sating it is to add a couple of slices to your meal.
    I like bacon too, but «healthy» isn’t the word I would associate with it :P
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    I like bacon too, but «healthy» isn’t the word I would associate with it :P
    Well, it actually has lower cholesterol than eggs, if that's what you were going for.

    Its fat is comprised of oleic acid, IIRC, which is what is praised in olive oil.

    I could be wrong about that, but is it just because it's a piece of meat that it's guilty until proven innocent?
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    A recent study suggesting ingestion of whole eggs may have benefits over egg whites:

    https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/A..._weeks.17.aspx

    Some may think I am funded by the Egg board, but I just love eggs

    Not RAW whole eggs...
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    I also love eggs. I used to eat 12 a day. I eat a more sensible 4 a day now. And I used to have them raw in a 1,000 calorie shake but that was many years ago before I knew better.

    However I don't like scrambled egg when it's all sloppy, I prefer them just smashed up in a pan with no milk or anything added.

    I don't mind fried eggs but hate it when they have that layer of snot over the top.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Not RAW whole eggs...
    I know, I didn’t claim that either
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Well, it actually has lower cholesterol than eggs, if that's what you were going for.

    Its fat is comprised of oleic acid, IIRC, which is what is praised in olive oil.

    I could be wrong about that, but is it just because it's a piece of meat that it's guilty until proven innocent?
    It is high in saturated fat + it’s processed meat. Saturated fat intake probably influences blood lipids more than dietary cholesterol. And for saturated fat there is direct evidence for health risks (meta-analyses of randomised controlled trials where the outcome is probability of cardiovascular events). With eggs/dietary cholesterol there is no such high quality direct evidence.

    And processed red meat may increase the risk of colon cancer IIRC
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    With eggs/dietary cholesterol there is no such high quality direct evidence.
    Actually, if you have familial hypercholesterolemia or are genetically predisposed to be a hyper-responder to cholesterol in food, eggs are one of the worst things for your blood lipids. I for example have a worse impact on my LDL from eggs than I do from even increased SFA intake because I have such bad genetics for handling dietary cholesterol. This doesn't impact everyone obviously, and many people can eat eggs all they want, but for people like me it is important to not go Gaston on them
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    It is high in saturated fat + it’s processed meat. Saturated fat intake probably influences blood lipids more than dietary cholesterol. And for saturated fat there is direct evidence for health risks (meta-analyses of randomised controlled trials where the outcome is probability of cardiovascular events). With eggs/dietary cholesterol there is no such high quality direct evidence.

    And processed red meat may increase the risk of colon cancer IIRC
    Fair points, certainly.

    Although in absolute terms, is it really so high in saturated fat? One slice has only a few grams of saturated fat. Eating even a few slices on a Saturday morning in an otherwise balanced diet should cause zero problems I would think.

    But, I am also happy to eat red meat anyway despite knowing it's positively correlated to these things. It's not meth and it has benefits of its own despite being very satisfying and enjoyable. Personal choice and I respect others' decision to avoid or reduce it.
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    Originally Posted by Strawng View Post
    Actually, if you have familial hypercholesterolemia or are genetically predisposed to be a hyper-responder to cholesterol in food, eggs are one of the worst things for your blood lipids. I for example have a worse impact on my LDL from eggs than I do from even increased SFA intake because I have such bad genetics for handling dietary cholesterol. This doesn't impact everyone obviously, and many people can eat eggs all they want, but for people like me it is important to not go Gaston on them
    This is why I wrote «Saturated fat intake probably influences blood lipids more than dietary cholesterol» so it would be true on average but there could be exceptions such as hyperresponders to dietary cholesterol.

    And I still think it’s true that when looking at the scientific literature, the quality of evidence for the link between saturated fat and cardiovascular risks is much higher than the one for dietary cholesterol. It would be great with randomized studies on that; I would speculate that there is a robust and strong relationship for genetic hyperresponders but not for other people.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Fair points, certainly.

    Although in absolute terms, is it really so high in saturated fat? One slice has only a few grams of saturated fat. Eating even a few slices on a Saturday morning in an otherwise balanced diet should cause zero problems I would think.

    But, I am also happy to eat red meat anyway despite knowing it's positively correlated to these things. It's not meth and it has benefits of its own despite being very satisfying and enjoyable. Personal choice and I respect others' decision to avoid or reduce it.
    No that’s probably fine. In general I don’t like to obsess about my diet beyond maintaining overall balance, getting enough overall protein and fat, limiting my alcohol consumption, eating vegetables/fruit and fatty fish regularly.

    For instance I eat things like burgers, lasagna, and curry with lamb meat regularly and it’s not something I bother worrying about.

    It’s mostly the nerd factor of these debates that appeals to me.

    I don’t like the idea of «health checks» if you are healthy either and I don’t think there’s any good evidence that it actually improves your health. But I respect that others feel differently.
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    Red meat could give the eggs a run for their money. But eggs take the win since they can be prepared so many different ways. Which is important when you have 6 a day lol
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