The argument seems to always devolve into an unrelated "but think of the family and friends they left behind"
But how is suicide itself cowardly?
The innate will of self-preservation is one of the strongest things there is
When a person suicides they override that knowing there's no coming back
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10-23-2020, 05:36 PM #1
Why do people say suicide is cowardly?
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10-23-2020, 05:37 PM #2
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10-23-2020, 05:48 PM #10
Bro to address your first "leaving family behind" thing, I have no issue if someone commits suicide and has no substantial responsibilities and life is tough, rough chit happens, I don't have much of an issue if you're leaving behind brothers, friends, etc., they'll deal with it.
My issue is I know a couple of guys that were in their late 30's/mid 40's and both left behind young kids and a wife to struggle through life.
One was a bar owner that was getting his liquor license revoked and drowning in debt. He did it to himself though, he was constantly Mr. Party and buying people drinks, didn't treat some fairly loyal employees that well, and was too arrogant to come hat in hand when dealing with the legal issues to the court. Basically said fuk the police and city hall for messing with my business, I'll keep doing things the way I want to.
He killed himself, left behind a young daughter and son, a wife that put her future into him and was nothing but supportive from what I saw, and left their lives in complete shambles.
That is cowardly. Not facing up to the issues with his business, not growing up and realizing he needed to turn things around, and instead taking the cowardly and easy way out and putting his family in an absolutely devastated situation.
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10-23-2020, 05:48 PM #11
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10-23-2020, 05:58 PM #12
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10-23-2020, 06:06 PM #14
Because death is a gift you have to earn and theyre stealing it like cowards
"One day I won't be able to lift any more. Not I won't want to lift. I mean physically unable. That day could be decades from now or it could be tomorrow. All I know is that's the day I'll wish I could lift more than ever. The day I'd give anything for one more workout, one more set, or one more cardio session. So go hard and enjoy every workout, every set, every rep. Because one day you will wake up and you will never get it back."
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10-23-2020, 06:07 PM #15
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10-23-2020, 06:15 PM #19
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They asked all the survivors who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge what they felt when their hands left that rail and almost all of them said there was immediate regret. Now that could very well be because it’s scary as fuk but maybe facing certain death is the thing that made them finally feel alive. Idk.
But one of them had a good quote and said “It’s not about wanting to die. It’s about just wanting the pain to go away.” A lot of these people feel as if they’ve tried everything and none of it works. Their only peace is the assurance that non-existence > existence. Because existence itself guarantees suffering on some level. And nonexistence guarantees the absence of suffering.
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10-23-2020, 06:16 PM #20
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10-23-2020, 06:20 PM #24
I disagree, I get the studies, and the philosophy behind it, but there are anomalies and randomness in science, people change their presepctive all the day with the choices they have, we all have 2 (at least) choices to every decision, and while they are filtered through the subconscious, maybe we take a left instead of a right, so next decisions we take another left, so on and so on, we've essential created a new pathway to thinking, which imo is freewill.
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10-23-2020, 06:24 PM #25
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10-23-2020, 06:27 PM #26
It's kind of difficult to carry that out. Unless you are just one of those spontaneous types that can do things without thinking about it, it's not easy. The fear of death and the instinct to survive is a strong one to overcome. As far as selfish, a lot of people see themselves as burdens to others and feel they are doing them a favor. Like that guy that blew his brains out on live people were calling and he was like "yeah yall care now".
I'll be honest, if it weren't for my Sara (my dog) I probably wouldn't be here. We have that special bond, but she's old and showing signs of getting close to the end. I hope I can get another year or two out of her because I can't handle losing her. Anyways, too much sadness and loss.
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10-23-2020, 06:28 PM #27
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10-23-2020, 06:31 PM #29
Suicide can be cowardly in some situations, but people who group all suicides as "the coward's way out" typically don't understand depression. The physical function of your brain can reach a state such that (1) you feel miserable and want to die all the time, and (2) nothing that you change or accomplish in your life can alter that feeling. Look at people like David Foster Wallace or Kurt Cobain, who were successful, revered, rich, had stable family lives, and still just wanted to die.
Very true.
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10-23-2020, 06:31 PM #30
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