I’m 6’2 and weigh 193 lb. I’ve been trying to figure out what my body fat percentage is, as I’ve been cutting for a few months and would like to bulk soon
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08-17-2019, 10:44 AM #1
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08-17-2019, 10:50 AM #2
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Don't bother, knowing it doesn't help you in any way.
If you look in the mirror and don't see at least some ab definition, you know you either have too little muscle or too much fat (both result in a higher than desired BF%), that's all there is to it really.
Keep track of progress by weighing yourself and maybe by taking waist measurements (first thing in morning, lying on back, relaxed, measure at navel height).
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08-17-2019, 11:13 AM #3
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1586055331 - there you go its already been answered Tucane knows his stuff.
Why do you keep asking the same question over and over again.
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08-17-2019, 11:30 AM #4
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08-17-2019, 11:36 AM #5
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08-17-2019, 11:39 AM #6
Guessing BF% is a crapshoot, even the best machines like BodPod and hydrostatic weighing have large margin for error. Based on your posts in the other thread about being worried you're too fat to bulk, you're flirting with a dangerous area where many lifters find themselves and spin their tires for years. Forever chasing year round rippedness/ being scared the minute your abs lose definition can result in a cycle of not getting anywhere. You look fine to start bulking now if that's what you want to do. Use a small surplus and remember the initial 2-3lb weight jump you may see is from extra water and glycogen.
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08-17-2019, 11:39 AM #7
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08-17-2019, 11:42 AM #8
Then cut if you want to lose more fat then. You have to do one or the other if you want to change it, you are leaner then probably a vast majority of the population and you are concerned. With a world in which obesity is on the rise and people starving themselves to nothing because of Instagram models you have that luxury of choice its up to you where they don't.
As for your body image problems you must deal with these issues if you want to progress in improving body composition. You have to crack a few eggs to make a cake so either cut and look small in shirt but lean out of one. Or bulk add a little bit of fat but look solid in a shirt. Or finally stick the same calories and attempt to gain muscle by progressing calories comparison to the gym progress as Tucane suggested.
You have to pick one keep asking will not change the outcome. You will most likely have years of all three at some point anyway so which order to do it makes no difference.
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08-17-2019, 11:46 AM #9
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08-17-2019, 11:58 AM #10
Man you’re an adult. Nobody has to make that choice for you.
What about the way you look so you hate? Too much fat or not enough muscle? Do you want to get stronger?
People can guide you but ultimately you need to make a decision on what you want to do. It’s your body. Cut if you want to lose some fat, bulk if you want to gain some muscle then cut after.Life is constant learning. Give advice about things you know. Ask questions about things you don't.
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08-17-2019, 12:01 PM #11
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08-17-2019, 12:04 PM #12
Then chose to cut or bulk then do the opposite after man. Either way it’s going to take a long time with a lot of commitment, which makes it even more important that you guide your own path. If you’re just following orders, you’re less likely to stick with it. Gotta come from within big dawg.
Life is constant learning. Give advice about things you know. Ask questions about things you don't.
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08-17-2019, 02:05 PM #13
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We didn't say you should do whatever you like. Clearly sitting on your ass and eating oreos isn't going to help if you don't like how you look.
I said grow muscle and lose fat. The order doesn't matter, the exact quantities don't either - just keep going until you've achieved what you want, it's not like you're going to accidentally overdo it, it takes a lot of time.
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08-17-2019, 05:33 PM #14
Well said; couldn't be more true.
OP, remember, you'll look more muscular and feel like you've made more progress if you lost some BF. I'd cut so you start seeing some shape, then lean bulk. BF is probably the biggest thing people feel bad about themselves for.
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08-17-2019, 05:54 PM #15
The problem is I’ve been cutting for 3 months and have made progress (lost 10 lb) but 3 months feels like too much time cutting and my body composition hasn’t changed much. This is the first time I’ve been on a serious cut before and it was hard to stick it out when most of my lifts plateaus or decreased. I stuck to a 500 calorie deficit every day and kept to my regular routine. I also don’t particularly care if I’m shredded and I’d rather be big, but I would like to burn that excess far in my lower back. The problem is I seem to be right in the middle of the pack, body fat percentage-wise. If I was really shredded and lean and wanted to put on mass, or if I carried a gross amount of body fat and wanted to cut, the decision would be much easier to make.
Last edited by beq1991; 08-17-2019 at 06:04 PM.
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08-17-2019, 06:04 PM #16
3 months is too long? Wow, you're in for a rude awakening if you want both of those goals (big and lower back fat gone) and you want them both now.
You can't spot reduce bodyfat; your body will burn fat at an even rate across your whole body when in a deficit. So the areas that are the thickest (lower back for men and hips/buttocks for women) naturally, take the longest to go.
I hate to say it but to get that area of fat gone, you're going to have to just get leaner. I have the same issue man. Lower back/lower abs are the last to get lean on me. So, to be 7-8% in those areas, I end up having to get to 5-6% everywhere else...lol
EDIT: 3 months is a wink in time man2017 OCB Men's Physique Open 4th place
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08-17-2019, 06:08 PM #17
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08-17-2019, 06:15 PM #18
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08-17-2019, 06:20 PM #19
Sadly, if you stay on that bulk too long, eventually it will
The trick is to get really lean; then lean bulk so you are only gaining around .5 lb per week; which is very tough (imo) to do. I can cut 1 lb per week easier than I can bulk at .5 lb (steadily and consistantly) per week.
You lean bulk until you are uncomfortable with your BF%, then do a short cut again.
The benefit of this whole procedure is you never let yourself get really out of control either way. It's so much easier to maintain a smaller swing of weight than to go to extremes with your weight.
Get lean once and do small bulks/cuts and you can stay, reletively well, in your goal condition. I used to swing 40 lbs on/off season between shows. Then I got smart and realized this was so much more work and very unhealthy to do it that way.2017 OCB Men's Physique Open 4th place
17 MP Novice 4th
18 MP Novice 5th
18 MP 40+ 3rd
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19 Classic Phys Open 3rd
19 CP 40+ 3rd
19 BB open 3rd
19 BB 40+ 1st..2nd Pro Card
19 BB 40+1st..50+1st...3rd Pro Card
21 BB 40+1st..50+1st..Open 5th..4th Card
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08-17-2019, 06:42 PM #20
I guess I don’t see the point of getting that lean if it’s going to take me probably 4-6 months to achieve that. On top of that, I would be probably need to weigh around 175-180 lb to get close to that lean and at 6’2, I would be a beanpole. I was that skinny with no muscle mass in college and I don’t want to go back to those days, even if it’s temporary. As it is, I’m starting to feel like I’m approaching unmanly territory at 6’2 and 190, so I can’t imagine losing another 10 or more lb. I guess my goal is to be fit 220-230 lb. Not sure if you know who Jocko Willink is, but I want to have a similar composition
Last edited by beq1991; 08-17-2019 at 06:49 PM.
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08-18-2019, 03:43 AM #21
Man I want you to have success in whatever you choose to do, but judging by your responses, with this mindset it isn’t going to go well for you. Before even choosing to bulk or cut, you HAVE to gain a mindset of patience. If you think that’s a long a period cutting, then to get to a fit 220-230 is going to seem like ages for you. To achieve the look you desire at that weight, you’ll likely have to go through many cycles of cuts and bulks at reasonably slow paces for both. This doesn’t happen overnight, it will take years.
I feel like all I’ve done in this thread is being you bad news, but I’d hate to see you end up a worse position than you are now due to unrealistic expectation and impatience. You already seem very unhappy with yourself. That might be one thing you need to shore up before you do anything. Everybody looks different, love yourself pal.Life is constant learning. Give advice about things you know. Ask questions about things you don't.
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08-18-2019, 04:27 AM #22
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08-18-2019, 08:24 AM #23
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08-18-2019, 08:39 AM #24
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08-18-2019, 09:06 AM #25
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08-18-2019, 09:16 AM #26
Thank you. I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING.
It’s more irritating than fascinating to me, but you have to come to it with a level of understanding. I think it comes down to him wanting a quick fix without having to work for it and experiencing the negatives in the process. Don’t think he understands how this works. All ya can do is try to at least help him, even if he doesn’t accept the advice given because it’s not what he wants to hear.Life is constant learning. Give advice about things you know. Ask questions about things you don't.
*Health and Wellness Coach and Coordinator for all United Bank Branches of Alabama
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08-18-2019, 09:34 AM #27
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