Moving forward in Reverse: Devils post-show recovery thread

[Devils]

Sorry, but Yes on the macro and calorie counts.
When my cut is done, I really would be delighted to be able to use your #'s as a guideline/template so to speak.
Yes on the details, and yes on the rambling.
Also, I'm seeing a bit of "potassium" stuff on the forums lately, whats your take?

Hi, I'll do my best to keep counting for another couple weeks.

Also most people messing with potassium still have fat to lose. Still a little more potassium in your diet does make a little difference in pumps.

Potassium? Meaning: "you didn't get lean enough and tries to get the "dry look"" potassium?
Seriously?

Wasn't sure what he was asking.

I guess, idk. I'm not referring to Layne's rebuttal on competitors that load it for the stage. I've simply seen more discussions on it lately, and just wondering if it's worth some more paying attention to in my cut, or general appearance on the whole, not loading for a specific event.

If you're really under 6% bodyfat, you will probably look good just standing their on stage not flexing. Just get lean then you can mess with little things like that.

[TheNaturalOak]

ITT Bob is trying to be superior by tracking more precisely in his off-season...

Point is, are you going through unnecessary suffrage in order to hit your "limited fat macros" ? Quite apparent that most people can be a little more flexible as long as they understand total energy balance.

Too much good info in here so had to post to get to our "30% lulz" :P

As I transition into offseason myself, I tend to stop visiting the forums.... will continue to come here as long as Devils posts actively.
Thanks for the work & info m8

[Devils]

Day 6, Week 5 Upper Body

Morning Weight = 75.9kg


Training

Barbell Bench Press 20kg x 30, 30kg x 20, 40kg x 10, 60kg x 4, 87.5kg x 12-12, 107.5kg x 6-6
Incline Dumbbell Press 28kg x 12-12, 32kg x 6, 38kg x 8
Seated Lat Raise 7kg x 30-25-25
Lat Pulldown 87kg x 12-12
High Row Machine 35kg x 12-12, 40kg x 12-8
Tricep Pushdown Rope 28kg x 12-12-12-12
Pullups Bodyweight 12-8-8-6 (mucking around)

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Nutrition

Approx 3,887 calories, 259.7p, 473c, 110.9f

Avocado on toast with bacon and jam on toast,
Two Mini pork burgers with caramelized red onion, oven baked chips with tomato and mayo, broccoli with soy sauce

Assorted Bread with jam and pork mince patty,
Broccoli and pork mince with cheese

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Thoughts

Old mate joined me for a workout to check out the new gym equipment. Both fucking KILLED IT, PR's everywhere. Training with someone with the same goals and mindset enhances both people. I see big gains to come with this new equipment as a lot of it is supported and less pressure on my back. Came back and had a boss lunch, will fill in the rest later on at night

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ITT Bob is trying to be superior by tracking more precisely in his off-season...

Point is, are you going through unnecessary suffrage in order to hit your "limited fat macros" ? Quite apparent that most people can be a little more flexible as long as they understand total energy balance.

Too much good info in here so had to post to get to our "30% lulz" :P

As I transition into offseason myself, I tend to stop visiting the forums.... will continue to come here as long as Devils posts actively.
Thanks for the work & info m8

Aye, it's enjoyment vs gains. If your gains are priority then great, but you can balance the two with often better results. Stress is a big factor for recovery and progress. 30% lulz definitely comes under enjoyment.

Thanks, glad we can talk about things here, feel free to share ideas over your off season too.

[The Solution]

ITT Bob is trying to be superior by tracking more precisely in his off-season...

Point is, are you going through unnecessary suffrage in order to hit your "limited fat macros" ? Quite apparent that most people can be a little more flexible as long as they understand total energy balance.

Too much good info in here so had to post to get to our "30% lulz" :P

As I transition into offseason myself, I tend to stop visiting the forums.... will continue to come here as long as Devils posts actively.
Thanks for the work & info m8

Explain how i am superior when i am stating my case. Sorry i do things different than say yourself or Devils, that is just how i like to be accurate, its how i have always been and how i am with everything in life given my profession in my real life is needed to be organized and always on task (as a teacher), it carries over into everything else i do in life (not saying no one else does)
In the end you can take it with a grain of salt, im not arguing to be better than person X or person Y its just how i skin the cat and do things
I have a personal trainer, so you think im going to wing macros and give him skewed feedback?
Probably not..
Carry on .. glad you know me better than i know myself. Please go..

[BipolarBrah]

I tried HIIT for the first time yesterday on a stationary bike.
20 seconds all out / 60 seconds slow pedal
By the 5th wave my ass was cramping up and felt like it was trying to swallow the bike seat. I was skeptical that HIIT could be used as somewhat of a resistance training supplement, but I'm now a believer. How often do you do HIIT? Surely it is something that requires recovery. I can't see myself doing it 3-5 days a week AND keeping up with my normal legs training.

[Devils]

Explain how i am superior when i am stating my case. Sorry i do things different than say yourself or Devils, that is just how i like to be accurate, its how i have always been and how i am with everything in life given my profession in my real life is needed to be organized and always on task (as a teacher), it carries over into everything else i do in life (not saying no one else does)
In the end you can take it with a grain of salt, im not arguing to be better than person X or person Y its just how i skin the cat and do things
I have a personal trainer, so you think im going to wing macros and give him skewed feedback?
Probably not..
Carry on .. glad you know me better than i know myself. Please go..

You'll just have to try it. Stop counting for a week, will you stop eating what you normally eat every day? will you suddenly have 2 slices of bread instead of 1? would you have 2 cups of vegetables instead of your usual? and so on.

Are you weight stable now? will you suddenly expect to gain weight or lose weight over the course of the week but suddenly not counting? Give it a go.

I tried HIIT for the first time yesterday on a stationary bike.
20 seconds all out / 60 seconds slow pedal
By the 5th wave my ass was cramping up and felt like it was trying to swallow the bike seat. I was skeptical that HIIT could be used as somewhat of a resistance training supplement, but I'm now a believer. How often do you do HIIT? Surely it is something that requires recovery. I can't see myself doing it 3-5 days a week AND keeping up with my normal legs training.

Yeah man, that sounds like it!

It does require recovery, but at the moment you're not used to it fitness wise so it's killing you. Keep it up and you'll adapt. I like to do it at least 3 days a week, usually both leg days then 1 extra on a rest day.

[XShreddedX]

hey devils what do you think about HIIT based around upper body movements such as sledgehammer swings battle ropes or going all out on the heavy bag? Just considering doing 1-2 lower based HIIT sessions and 1-2 upper based HIIT sessions a week

[Devils]

hey devils what do you think about HIIT based around upper body movements such as sledgehammer swings battle ropes or going all out on the heavy bag? Just considering doing 1-2 lower based HIIT sessions and 1-2 upper based HIIT sessions a week

Would be effective IMO, anything you can do at a very high intensity for the right amount of time would work just as well. Boxing comes to mind as a really good one, you can get a very good workout going all out for 30 seconds.

It's worth looking into to supplement your upper body training.

[Devils]

Day 7, Week 5 Rest

Morning Weight = 76.7kg


Training

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Nutrition

Approx 3,042 calories, 211.3p, 322.5c, 107.4f

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Thoughts

Nothing really to report, It was a scheduled leg day but I just had too much work during the day to get it in effectively. Tomorrow will probably be another rest day as I have a deep tissue massage on Sunday morning so It's not a good idea to go in with any doms. Looking forward too it, been feeling lots of knots and it's long overdue to get them worked on.

I'll probably have a little rest period over the next few days and pick up things again on Tuesday. I'll post some 1 moth progress shots too. Thanks.

[Nexxus]

what's your job? You find bodybuilding to interfere with work sometimes? During contest prep maybe?

[Devils]

what's your job? You find bodybuilding to interfere with work sometimes? During contest prep maybe?

I'm a personal trainer, bodybuilding only enhances my work I feel

[Nexxus]

I'm a personal trainer, bodybuilding only enhances my work I feel

that makes sense lol

[XShreddedX]

Enjoy the break man, does the body good sometimes, I just got done with my summer break with 2 upper and 1 lower session and 1 HIIT session spread over 2 weeks, and just started back the other day, feeling very refreshed and re motivated, enjoy it

[The Solution]

Enjoy the break man, does the body good sometimes, I just got done with my summer break with 2 upper and 1 lower session and 1 HIIT session spread over 2 weeks, and just started back the other day, feeling very refreshed and re motivated, enjoy it

Recharging the batteries never hurts. Look forward to new pics

[Bnizzle163]

Yep, the time off will only do you good. Enjoy it.

[jpfaherty]

How bout you rest when you're dead? Pussy!



Just kidding, enjoy it

[Devils]

Enjoy the break man, does the body good sometimes, I just got done with my summer break with 2 upper and 1 lower session and 1 HIIT session spread over 2 weeks, and just started back the other day, feeling very refreshed and re motivated, enjoy it

Recharging the batteries never hurts. Look forward to new pics

Yep, the time off will only do you good. Enjoy it.

How bout you rest when you're dead? Pussy!
Just kidding, enjoy it

This always happens to me, but literally the next morning I bend down the wrong way and got spasms in my back, so looks like I'm spending most of my weekend laying down in bed with the laptop feeling sorry for myself.

Me and the gf did go out for some comfort food in the evening, burger and chips and a tub of Baskin Robbins. The day ended up being near 5400 calories. Lets just say I'll be drinking a lot of fiber and water today.

Anyway **** happens, hopefully my deep tissue massage this morning will make me feel better and loosen things off a bit, wish me luck. I probably wont try another low calorie day and I'll just hit around 2000-2300 for a rest day macro's.

[Devils]

Day 1, Week 6 Rest

Morning Weight = 76.3kg


Training

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Nutrition

Approx 5,434 calories, 263.8p, 568.2c, 242.4f

Bacon and bread with Jam + WPC Coffee,
Gourmet Hawaiian Pizza

Two Snapper sandwiches with onion and Choc Icecream,
Baskin Robbins Take home pack, 3 flavors (Vanilla Truffle, Peanut butter, Cookie Dough) + Cheeseburger and chips

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Thoughts

Ridiculous macro's of peace. Went to see Despicable Me 2, fun movie, was ok. Got some good eats afterwards obviously.

[Balddude]

Mirin the food and choice of movie.

With all the rest and extra calories I bet you're going to crush some serious weight when you get back in the gym

[Ccm644]

My girlfriend asked meto watch that film with her, I haven't said yes yet ha

You seem to love your pizza's

Do you ever make homemade ones?

They all look great!!

[Devils]

37 days or 1 month, 6 days post competition
My counting was all off with my Update titles so I'll fix everything In my next daily update, it's confusing ATM

Photo's were taken with flash so are a bit washed out and yes I'm the whitest person I know. Post workout about 30 mins so a little bit of a pump.

[The Solution]

Still holding VERY sharp man... must be all that pizza

[Devils]

Mirin the food and choice of movie.
With all the rest and extra calories I bet you're going to crush some serious weight when you get back in the gym

My girlfriend asked meto watch that film with her, I haven't said yes yet ha
You seem to love your pizza's
Do you ever make homemade ones?
They all look great!!

Yeah I love to make homemade pizza's, it's just since I can find these so cheap I just buy them that way.

Still holding VERY sharp man... must be all that pizza

Yeah Pizza gains!

Also been getting into the youtube lately, found this vid was pretty good.

[jpfaherty]

Still looking VERY good.

Finally, a challenger appears for whitest person on the forums

[The Solution]

Yeah Pizza gains!

Also been getting into the youtube lately, found this vid was pretty good.

That the jason that accused Layne Norton of doing steroids?

Oh just saw this:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=154838003

[adamsz]

one of the most impressive lean physiques on this site IMO. Keep up the good work Devils. Very inspiring work.

[Devils]

Day 38, Week 5 / Upper Body / Morning Weight = 76.2kg

Training

Keiser Spin Bike Warmup 5 minutes @ Level 15

Barbell Bench Press 20kg x 30, 40kg x 12, 60kg x 4, 87.5kg x 12-12, 105kg x 7-6
Incline Dumbbell Press 28kg x 12-12, 34kg x 5-6
Seated Lat Raise 8kg x 25-20-20

Bodyweight Pullups 12-12
Lat Pulldown 87kg x 12-8
Rear Delt Row Machine 35kg x 12-10-8

Tricep Pushdown Rope 36kg x 8, 31kg x 12


Nutrition

Approx 3,063 calories, 177p, 337.6c, 114.1f / Meal Breakdown's

WPC Coffee,
Gourmet Hawaiian Pizza,
2 Snapper and Onion Sandwiches with vegtables,
Ice Cream

Thoughts

Massage was good, lower body only, got a lot loosened off. I plan to get my upper done this week or next. Ended up going to the gym and doing what I could, less back stuff so mostly chest and machines. Took new pictures posted above.


Comments

Still looking VERY good.

Finally, a challenger appears for whitest person on the forums

Thanks man

That the jason that accused Layne Norton of doing steroids?

Yes, but mainly he's pointing out the failings of metabolic damage video, which I happen to disagree with. I'm pretty honest with myself and I know I cheat sometimes and get lazy and don't record things or skip cardio. Put anyone who is self reporting no fat loss with very low numbers and high cardio in a controlled lab setting and the numbers will be completely different.

[d2391]

Subbed for future! In the middle of my first cut currently!

[Bnizzle163]

Still looking solid and diced.

I'm going to have to join the white boy competition with you and JP. I'm pasty as a mofo

[slobey]

and yes I'm the whitest person I know.

as long as you're getting a little bit of sunlight each day, ^ is the healthiest thing for you, as there's no such thing as a 'healthy' tan. keep protecting the skin!