http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=148861663
sigh, why do I even bother
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10-12-2012, 11:52 AM #511
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10-17-2012, 11:38 AM #518
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This thread has potential.
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10-17-2012, 12:08 PM #519
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10-17-2012, 02:09 PM #520
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10-19-2012, 03:00 PM #521
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10-29-2012, 11:49 PM #522
Some strange maths here that I don't agree with:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post970696113
I don't even bother counting my calories from protein. Firstly the protein that is used to repair/maintain your body doesn't need to be included in your calorie/energy count because it's not being burnt at all. Secondly after all is said and done 1000 calories from protein (250 grams) only yields a net gain of 80 calories (refer to post 1719), this gives protein an 8% energy efficiency rating (in other words it provides 0.32 net calories per gram).
Let's say my body requires 50 grams of protein for its basic needs and I'm eating 200 grams of protein per day, let's calculate how much energy I'm obtaining from all this protein. Firstly the 50 grams of protein that my body uses to repair/maintain my body does not contribute to my calorie/energy intake. This leaves 150 grams of protein (600 calories), given that the energy efficiency of protein is 8% (0.32 calories per gram) we arrive at a massive 48 calories.
A more accurate way of counting your calories:
Protein = 0.32 calories per gram
Fat = 9.3 calories per gram (9 calories per gram is simply a rounded number, 9.3 is more accurate)
Carbohydrate = 3.7 calories for monosaccharides (glucose, fructose etc), 4.1 calories for starch (rice, pasta, bread etc), 4 calories for disaccharides (sucrose, lactose etc)
The reason why we use 4 calories per gram for carbohydrate is because most of the carbohydrate in our diets comes from starch and disaccharides and also because it's a rounded number.
Protein - 0.32 calories per gram
Fat = 9.3 calories per gram
Carbs = 4 calories per gram (impossible to give an exact number because everyone eats different carb sources in different ratios)
An example calculation based on my diet:
Protein = 213 grams (213 x 0.32 = 68.16)
Fat = 165 grams (165 x 9.3 = 1534.5)
Carbs = 718 grams (718 x 4 = 2872)
Total = 4474.66 calories
I could take away a few calories (4-7) to account for the small amount of protein that isn't burnt for energy but close enough is good enough.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that protein provides **** all calories, it's almost a waste of time even counting your calories from protein. I could rave on about calories from fiber and alcohol and various other sources but it's not worth worrying about.
My practical advice? 4 calories per gram of carbohydrate, 9.3 calories per gram of fat, don't even bother counting your protein calories or anything else for that matter. When I'm trying to figure out my calorie targets for weight loss/gain I simply count my fat and carb calories and go by that number.
Fat = 165 grams (165 x 9.3 = 1534.5)
Carbs = 718 grams (718 x 4 = 2872)
Total = 4406.5 calories
That's how I calculate my calorie intake. I bet a few of you are laughing right now after I just ranted on about exact calculations and then finished with "**** it, close enough is good enough" lol, I just thought some of you might be interested in knowing this."THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR PERSISTENCE!"
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11-01-2012, 12:54 PM #523
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So I put my new video on the problems with low carb diets in the keto forum just now... let's see what happens.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post972785903
Feel free to jump in and back me up but be non-trolling as it is a main forum so will be moderated more closely than misc forums.
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11-01-2012, 01:10 PM #524
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11-01-2012, 01:16 PM #525
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Not only that but ultra high protein intake just results in more carbs regardless... it seems pointless to limit oneself to far fewer food sources and pay more for foods that ultimately end up as glucose just like dietary carbs anyway. LoL
Jimmies will be rustled. I already rustled some in my comments in the video. People don't like when I imply that training is the dominant lifestyle factor that impacts insulin sensitivity (obviously genetic factors are involved as well).
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11-02-2012, 03:58 AM #526
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Thread was locked while I was at the gym. Basically the keto forum is highly protected... it would save people a lot of trouble if the sub-forum rules stated that one is not allowed to present either logical or scientific arguments against the effectiveness or effeciency of ketogenic diets in that subforum.
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11-02-2012, 04:19 AM #527
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11-02-2012, 04:49 AM #528
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Well the video was not made for that purpose so nothing lost there. LoL Although I simplified the biochem way too much (I should have just said the body has enzymic pathways capable of doing x with y to avoid any problems for the layman) and that is going to be ripped apart and already have one low-carber doing so on my youtube... however what strikes me as odd is that if he knows that much about biochem is also knows that the body has pathways that allow for very effecient storage of deitary fat as adipose tissue without the presence of insulin... so not sure what he is trying to argue.
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11-02-2012, 07:19 AM #529No brain, no gain.
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11-02-2012, 03:14 PM #530
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=149295383
Apparently adding sugar to oats makes it bad, and this is backed by clinical research.Go Pack Go!
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11-03-2012, 03:44 PM #531
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not in nut section but oh lawd get ready to have your jimmies in a bunch. synthol freak handing out nutrition info
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...9378143&page=1
also lold so freakin hard at the igorance. sure is science in here...
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11-06-2012, 11:01 AM #532
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In this thread, poster Rog447 goes massively brotastic. It's a fun read.
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11-25-2012, 06:14 AM #533
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=149880963
lovely, just lovely.
edit: nevermind thread deletedLast edited by Ondemand; 11-25-2012 at 06:23 AM.
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11-25-2012, 08:55 PM #534
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11-26-2012, 01:08 PM #535
There is some pretty strange advice being offered in this thread...
Dunno if this qualifies but see what you all think.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=149799193First, Revolution
Then, Resolution
Finally, Evolution
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11-26-2012, 02:16 PM #536
No more BS ammo, retreat? Hell no, comes back with ad hominem attacks
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11-27-2012, 11:48 AM #537
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11-27-2012, 12:33 PM #538
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12-02-2012, 05:16 AM #539
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=150024253
Op is asking about body composition changes in regard to changing macros but not overall calorie intake, if anyone want to weigh in.
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12-06-2012, 06:53 PM #540
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