what is considered heavy lifting??

[Dominik]

What I would suggest you do, is work in a rep rnage, not just a target rep.

For example, lift in the 8-10 rep range. Find a weight you can do 8 reps w/ for your sets. Work to increase that weight to 10 reps for all your sets. When you do, increase weight back to a point that allows you to get 8 reps for all your sets and repeat. There is more than one way to make progress, that is one of them.

Good advice and it works.

It's also worth mentioning that form needs to be consistent with that approach. You're not making progress week after week by reducing the range of motion or cheating the weight up with the assistance of other muscles to lift more weight or do more reps.

[BombDonald]

5 star thread. Would read again.

[IDNeon]

Wow brah good catch it didnt didnt even cross my mind, didnt realize I have to specify to not be a pussy....

Good lord..

Putting brahmance aside....400lbs is the start of heavy.

[PinkDumbells]

Wow brah good catch it didnt didnt even cross my mind, didnt realize I have to specify to not be a pussy....

Good lord..

Well your attempt at a definition was very incomplete. People warmup with 5 or less reps, that doesn't mean it's heavy. People do speed work with 50-60% of their maxes at times, again that doesn't mean it's heavy. A rep range doesn't mean the weight is heavy.

Also, does warming up or training for a specific goal make you a pussy? You sure seem to think so. Or you're just dumb. Maybe both.

400lbs is the start of heavy.

That is all relative.

[jon922]

what is considered heavy lifting??

example if i lifting 50kg on chest but only manage 8reps when i was supposed to do 10reps is this heavy lifting.

or

I managed to complete 10reps of 50kg, and i think i could have managed another 2reps?

thanks

I dunno I would say...
Bout tree fiddy...

[deadliftjabroni]

Wow brah good catch it didnt didnt even cross my mind, didnt realize I have to specify to not be a pussy....

Good lord..

lol no wonder youre red...

[waqas11]

Good advice and it works.

It's also worth mentioning that form needs to be consistent with that approach. You're not making progress week after week by reducing the range of motion or cheating the weight up with the assistance of other muscles to lift more weight or do more reps.

Wow i cant believe a mod has posted on my thread!!

[MrMisanthrope]

When I see this discussed, usually more than about 85% of 1RM is considered "heavy lifting."

[ase19]

Well your attempt at a definition was very incomplete. People warmup with 5 or less reps, that doesn't mean it's heavy. People do speed work with 50-60% of their maxes at times, again that doesn't mean it's heavy. A rep range doesn't mean the weight is heavy.

Also, does warming up or training for a specific goal make you a pussy? You sure seem to think so. Or you're just dumb. Maybe both.



That is all relative.

This is where common sense comes into play. Excuse me for assuming op has it.

And of course its relative, the guy was making a joke.

Wow

[SquatTilYouDrop]

Putting brahmance aside....400lbs is the start of heavy.

No, heavy is relative.


Ask Einstein's ghost.

[PinkDumbells]

This is where common sense comes into play. Excuse me for assuming op has it.

Just covering the steps you missed. You can warmup or even train in the 1-5 rep range without lifting heavy. So your definition has been proven wrong.

Wow

I am curious as to what you have accomplished to justify the sense of superiority in all your posts. It's pretty apparent you're not very intelligent but you talk down to everyone. Please explain this to me. Thanks.

[SquatTilYouDrop]

I am curious as to what you have accomplished to justify the sense of superiority in all your posts. It's pretty apparent you're not very intelligent but you talk down to everyone. Please explain this to me. Thanks.

Now you've done it....

[ase19]

OBviously were not talkimg about warm up sets when the topic is heavy lifting. Again,... Common sense.

Nice attempt at making a valid point

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[PinkDumbells]

OBviously were not talkimg about warm up sets when the topic is heavy lifting. Again,... Common sense.

Nice attempt at making a valid point

You ignored where I mentioned that you can TRAIN in the 1-5 rep range with 50-60% of your max. People do it all the time. But nice attempt at ignoring my actual point in order to try to make a point yourself.

Also, you ignored my request in my previous post as well.

[-Lucifer]

1-3 reps (100% - 95%).

[ArslaanKhalid]

Personally, I would say a weight which you can lift with good form for one - five reps.

[Whiteboii3000]

OBviously were not talkimg about warm up sets when the topic is heavy lifting. Again,... Common sense.

Nice attempt at making a valid point

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i gotta side with this guy. lets use a little common sense.

i would say "heavy" lifting is when the most weight you can lift is 5-6 reps before failure.

[Tyciol]

What I would suggest you do, is work in a rep rnage, not just a target rep. lift in the 8-10 rep range. Find a weight you can do 8 reps w/ for your sets. Work to increase that weight to 10 reps for all your sets. When you do, increase weight back to a point that allows you to get 8 reps for all your sets and repeat. There is more than one way to make progress, that is one of them.

Especially for light lifting, 8-10 could be a narrow range, like getting 10 for 15lbs might not allow 8 for 20, something like that. Wider ranges are used for novices right? I've been trying to work up to higher reps just so I can get a significant amount with the higher one up.

[PinkDumbells]

i gotta side with this guy. lets use a little common sense.

i would say "heavy" lifting is when the most weight you can lift is 5-6 reps before failure.

Or we could use simple logic. A rep range doesn't denote weight. Like I've mentioned before it's not uncommon for people to train in the 1-5 rep range with 50-60% (Or even around 70%) of their maxes. Also, it's not uncommon to see people in the gym work in the 1-5 rep range but never actually push themselves. They are using weight that is light for them but just not pushing it.

Weight is heavy, rep ranges aren't by themselves.

[DanielBeauchamp]

Lifting heavy means lifting heavy for you. 225lbs might be a heavy squat for you, but that's light for me. So heavy is relative to what you can do.

I consider "heavy lifting" to be 85% or more of your current max. More towards 90%+...

[Tyciol]

i would say "heavy" lifting is when the most weight you can lift is 5-6 reps before failure.

A rep range doesn't denote weight. Like I've mentioned before it's not uncommon for people to train in the 1-5 rep range with 50-60% (Or even around 70%) of their maxes. Also, it's not uncommon to see people in the gym work in the 1-5 rep range but never actually push themselves. They are using weight that is light for them but just not pushing it. Weight is heavy, rep ranges aren't by themselves.

I don't think you correctly read WB's post. He said the most weight you "can" lift, not the most weight you lift.

Clearly if someone isn't pushing themselves and could lift more than 6 reps, like they could get 7+, it would not be heavy by WB's definition.

Reps are very significant to what is heavy because we simply can't lift the heavier ones for as many reps.

That said, I don't like defining them that way because things like heavy are subjective.

We could also just as easily define it by things like lifting tempo (10 1-second reps can be done with heavier weights than 10 5-second reps), or range of motion (heaviest weights can only be done with partials, etc.)

[waqas11]

dont i get anything for starting a 4* thread lol??

[chazzy1864]

dont i get anything for starting a 4* thread lol??

A neg.

[waqas11]

A neg.

no dont plzz!!

[PinkDumbells]

I don't think you correctly read WB's post. He said the most weight you "can" lift, not the most weight you lift.

No, I did. But I was responding to his first comment about ase's comment. I shouldn't have quoted both parts. That's my fault.

Although I don't necessarily agree with the definition WB gave, I don't really see anything wrong with it.

[ermunaz]

pinkdumb ur being either a troll or a little bit of a retard here, obviusly when ppl talk about what repp range they work in theyre talking about to or near failure. zB when ronnie coleman describe how he like to work with 3 sets of 10-12 repps , it is kinda understood (to us, maybe not to u) that he choose a weight that is challenging for him, and not 50% of his 1RM. if he was talking about warmup sets, he would probly mention that.

if u want to talk about leaving out information, then u left out a major peace of information urself in ur posts; what is a 1RM? if u always work out in 8-12 repp and never maxed out, i suppose ur 1RM would equal the max weight u put up for 8 repps? does that mean that ur doing 8 repps of 100% of ur 1RM? and do u see what i mean about retarded now?

[ermunaz]

nonehteless, seems u might have made ase19 post a tread call "Bodybuilding.com is gay" that ended up got him banned..

Like srsly i'm right about everything but still get negged

too funny

[PinkDumbells]

pinkdumb ur being either a troll or a little bit of a retard here, obviusly when ppl talk about what repp range they work in theyre talking about to or near failure.

How is that obvious when there are a lot of people who often work in the 1-5 rep range for their training and many of those sets (Not warmups, actual working sets) are not done near failure? I could list a number of powerlifting routines that incorporate that type of training. These are actual people who train to lift the most weight possible and they don't always lift to failure to get there.

if u want to talk about leaving out information, then u left out a major peace of information urself in ur posts; what is a 1RM? if u always work out in 8-12 repp and never maxed out, i suppose ur 1RM would equal the max weight u put up for 8 repps? does that mean that ur doing 8 repps of 100% of ur 1RM? and do u see what i mean about retarded now?

First of all it's piece, not peace. Secondly are you seriously trying to argue that an 8-rep max could possibly have the same meaning as a 1-rep max? Aren't those ideas already self defined? An 8 rep max is the most you can do for 8 reps. A 1 rep max is the most you can do for 1 rep, regardless if you actually ever test it or not.

But you are right, after your post I can definitely see what you mean about retarded...

[PinkDumbells]

nonehteless, seems u might have made ase19 post a tread call "Bodybuilding.com is gay" that ended up got him banned..

Like srsly i'm right about everything but still get negged

too funny

Hmm.... well I never negged him so it must have been someone else.

[SquatTilYouDrop]

dont i get anything for starting a 4* thread lol??

You'll be rewarded tomm.