The Race to a Five-Plate Squat (and onward)

[Big.Jazayrli]

little sumthin from mah most recent workout. last workout in my loading pattern.

445x2

[musicianman]

little sumthin from mah most recent workout. last workout in my loading pattern.

445x2

[youtube]hmUKnoF3anE[youtube]

Not going to knock on your form because that is a ****-ton of weight and I'm sure you know this, but you didn't break parallel. You just barely hit it.

Still, great squat. I hope to be there in the next 18 months or so.

What do you mean by "loading pattern"?

[Big.Jazayrli]

Not going to knock on your form because that is a ****-ton of weight and I'm sure you know this, but you didn't break parallel. You just barely hit it.

Still, great squat. I hope to be there in the next 18 months or so.

What do you mean by "loading pattern"?

i actually hit approx. 1/2" below parallel, the camera is angled upward so its hard to tell.

a loading pattern is a series of workouts with increasing intensity. based on %'s, etc

[musicianman]

i actually hit approx. 1/2" below parallel, the camera is angled upward so its hard to tell.

a loading pattern is a series of workouts with increasing intensity. based on %'s, etc

Ah, my bad. Camera angles can be really deceiving.

Still doesn't take away from an awesome squat.

Are you following a specific program, or do you play it by ear?

[Big.Jazayrli]

Ah, my bad. Camera angles can be really deceiving.

Still doesn't take away from an awesome squat.

Are you following a specific program, or do you play it by ear?

i follow the blueprint. best strength training program i have used so far. worth every darn penny.

im gonna combine it with chaos and pain after October and kick some serious ass

[musicianman]

i follow the blueprint. best strength training program i have used so far. worth every darn penny.

???

[Big.Jazayrli]

???

its an e-book that has to be purchased.

honestly 35.00 isn't much at all for what you get.

check the link in my sig if you are interested. its a great program and Rob (writer) stands behind it 100%

PM me if you want to ask some questions about it

[musicianman]

its an e-book that has to be purchased.

honestly 35.00 isn't much at all for what you get.

Ah, I see. I'll give it a look for sure. Got a link?

[Big.Jazayrli]

Ah, I see. I'll give it a look for sure. Got a link?

see prev post edit :P

[Big.Jazayrli]

475x1

[Farley1324]

475x1

Almost deep enough.

[Big.Jazayrli]

Almost deep enough.

lol..

[Farley1324]

lol..

This is what I do and it requires only the default programs on my PC's:

If you think it is deep enough the best way to get a consensus is to watch the video yourself, the original on your computer not the low quality youtube version, pause the video when you are at your absolute deepest point, hit "Prnt Scrn", paste into paint, crop yourself to get rid of backgrounds and upload/post that picture.

It makes judgement much easier.

A view more from the side helps too.

[Big.Jazayrli]

This is what I do and it requires only the default programs on my PC's:

If you think it is deep enough the best way to get a consensus is to watch the video yourself, the original on your computer not the low quality youtube version, pause the video when you are at your absolute deepest point, hit "Prnt Scrn", paste into paint, crop yourself to get rid of backgrounds and upload/post that picture.

It makes judgement much easier.

A view more from the side helps too.

Honestly I know i was deep enough. An upward angle on a camera that is above the bottom of your ROM tends to lend toward a deceptive view. Its the best recording i can manage with a cellphone though.

While it isn't ATG - it is below parallel which is all that is required for the sake of my competition.

ATG i could probably squeeze out 440ish

[Jrahe42]

nice squat man but why do you need so many damn plates to get 475? maybe thats the normal amount i'm just not use to putting so much on when i squat but it seems like more than normal.

[Farley1324]

Honestly I know i was deep enough. An upward angle on a camera that is above the bottom of your ROM tends to lend toward a deceptive view. Its the best recording i can manage with a cellphone though.

While it isn't ATG - it is below parallel which is all that is required for the sake of my competition.

ATG i could probably squeeze out 440ish

I tried like hell and that is the deepest I could get it.

That is not below parallel.

Just my opinion. I'm sure others will chime in eventually.

If you can get a still image that shows more depth please do so.

[Big.Jazayrli]

nice squat man but why do you need so many damn plates to get 475? maybe thats the normal amount i'm just not use to putting so much on when i squat but it seems like more than normal.

the plates in my gym are in SI rather than metric..

so lbs < KG

4x45, 1x25, 1x10 / side

would be ~ 4x25kg/side i think.. that's aroudn 485 but close enough

[Big.Jazayrli]

I tried like hell and that is the deepest I could get it.

That is not below parallel.

Just my opinion. I'm sure others will chime in eventually.

If you can get a still image that shows more depth please do so.

I'll give you that.. it doesn't look like it.

I still stand by what i said though.

[The Shoeless Wonder]

i would agree youre right above parallel, from the video

[-Lucifer]

Almost deep enough.

If all he wants to do is compete and that depth is acceptable then he doesn't need to go any deeper.

While it isn't ATG - it is below parallel which is all that is required for the sake of my competition.

Your squat is a parallel squat, bro. That's not called breaking parallel.

[Farley1324]

If all he wants to do is compete and that depth is acceptable then he doesn't need to go any deeper.

But IS that depth acceptable?

Outside of SPF, that is...

[-Lucifer]

But IS that depth acceptable?
Outside of SPF, that is...

If you ask me, yes.

Sure, he did not break parallel, but 475 is a lot of weight. How many people from your gym break parallel, Farl? There are only two trainers from my gym that do so.

[Farley1324]

If you ask me, yes.

Sure, he did not break parallel, but 475 is a lot of weight. How many people from your gym break parallel, Farl? There are only two trainers from my gym that do so.

Then for purposes of competition it is not acceptable.

What random guys at the gym do doesn't matter.

[zmcdole]

My best with 455.....http://www.********.com/v/519088137245

I've changed my bar placement and it's about 4 inches lower on my back. Since doing so I've hit 475 x 6 but I don't have that on video so this will have to do. I have squatted 501 in competition at 198 raw. Don't have that on video either

[Farley1324]

My best with 455.....http://www.********.com/v/519088137245

I've changed my bar placement and it's about 4 inches lower on my back. Since doing so I've hit 475 x 6 but I don't have that on video so this will have to do. I have squatted 501 in competition at 198 raw. Don't have that on video either

Looking good

[Mixelflick]

My best with 455.....http://www.********.com/v/519088137245

I've changed my bar placement and it's about 4 inches lower on my back. Since doing so I've hit 475 x 6 but I don't have that on video so this will have to do. I have squatted 501 in competition at 198 raw. Don't have that on video either

THIS.

Bar placement (lower on the back) will help insofar as leverage and "stroke". It shortens the distance the bar has to trave (in this case) by about 4". That's a huge amount when considering power outlay over the same distance.

A bit of bar placement experimentation may well allow you to squat lower.

[UofACATS]

Bar placement (lower on the back) will help insofar as leverage and "stroke". It shortens the distance the bar has to trave (in this case) by about 4". That's a huge amount when considering power outlay over the same distance.

A bit of bar placement experimentation may well allow you to squat lower.

So where should I rest the bar then? Right now it rests nicely right on my traps. Feels great with my hands inside of the line to bunch-up the traps a bit, don't really even "feel" it there anymore. No discomfort.

Lowbar goes under the traps? 4" lower than where it rests now? Arms back, bar on rear delts? wtf

[DanielBeauchamp]

So where should I rest the bar then? Right now it rests nicely right on my traps. Feels great with my hands inside of the line to bunch-up the traps a bit, don't really even "feel" it there anymore. No discomfort.

Lowbar goes under the traps? 4" lower than where it rests now? Arms back, bar on rear delts? wtf

I would say to do what's comfortable. If you like high-bar there is no reason to switch. Personally, I found low-bar to be hard on my back, awkward as fuk on my wrists and because of the forward lean, and generally sucky. Once I switched back to high-bar, I had no lower back soreness after every set of Squats, and it didn't affect my total in the slightest.

[UofACATS]

I would say to do what's comfortable. If you like high-bar there is no reason to switch. Personally, I found low-bar to be hard on my back, awkward as fuk on my wrists and because of the forward lean, and generally sucky. Once I switched back to high-bar, I had no lower back soreness after every set of Squats, and it didn't affect my total in the slightest.

Alright, just got high interest in hitting my PR goal. Thought I'd try slightly different form if it allows me to squat more. Guess I'll try it with a 135lb warmup.

[Big.Jazayrli]

Alright, just got high interest in hitting my PR goal. Thought I'd try slightly different form if it allows me to squat more. Guess I'll try it with a 135lb warmup.

Low bar squats are painful at first.. I've never done a heavy set with them either

But high bar squats hurt originally too.. so I imagine that it probably just takes some getting used to.

I plan on switching over eventually