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    May have to take you up on that one. Next training day is Friday I think..or Saturday. Schedule is kind of up in the air at this point so not really sure. Buuuuuut.... deadlifts and some enchiladas sounds like a damn good plan to me
    well hell man I'll come over to your house and just give them to you whenever bro, I'm dead serious you'd be doing a metaboliccaly injured man a favor, pm me your addy you'll have em tomorrow DEAD SERIOUS
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    Quick question

    In your initial post I remember reading that you will have scheduled deloads. I'm assuming this means that you will know in advance when they will be. How do you determine this? Skimming through your previous journal I don't remember see many (if any) at all so I was just curious how you will implement that. It's something I struggle with because I'm "supposed to" but hate doing for obvious reasons.
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    Originally Posted by dfunk View Post
    In your initial post I remember reading that you will have scheduled deloads. I'm assuming this means that you will know in advance when they will be. How do you determine this? Skimming through your previous journal I don't remember see many (if any) at all so I was just curious how you will implement that. It's something I struggle with because I'm "supposed to" but hate doing for obvious reasons.
    basically I'm just going to do it between cycles of training...so I'll do max ot for 12 weeks, then deload for like a week, then go into gvt 2000 for 12 weeks, and then deload for a week...of course I'll go by instinct when I find myself beat up, near injury, or badly plateaued, but that's the general plan


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    Major Props to visionz, he is saving me from my enchiladas LOL, I'm going to the gym tonight to do cardio and I'll be giving him all the chicken enchiladas I've got...it'll be bitter sweet...they are delicious...yet I can't make em work in my diet and shouldn't at this point lol...so I'm quite relieved to get them out of the fridge and put them to good work...just remember when you hit that 600lbs deadlift that it was those enchiladas that helped get you there!
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    Major Props to visionz, he is saving me from my enchiladas LOL
    LoL. He is so selfless!


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    Hey it's not easy being a food-devouring machine but someones got to do it. Those things look DAMN delicious in the fridge!
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    Originally Posted by J_Bo View Post
    LoL. He is so selfless!


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    Hey it's not easy being a food-devouring machine but someones got to do it. Those things look DAMN delicious in the fridge!
    lol, yeah that was the problem!
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    Day 3 Wednesday September 30 2009

    Intro

    Well I was 191 yesterday, that's 10lbs up from morning dry weight from contest condition before I started carbing up, and I was 188.6 this morning, I'll probably keep coming down as the bloat subsides...which isn't too bad. I'm still in condition, which is neat.
    Felt like I was on the diet again today, which is good...if I feel like I did on 1500-1700kcals on 2200kcals...that HOPEFULLY means the metabolism is ramping up. Also, did the same exact cardio workout I did 2 days ago today, which got me to 150's on the HR, and I only got into the 130's this time...so obviously the metabolism thinks I'm still starving to death...so good signs.
    Like I mentioned, did cardio and visionz and his girlfriend were kind enough to meet me and barb at the gym and take the enchiladas off our hands, and we made some tentative plans for some offseason food pawnage on some weekend cheat meal days once my metabolism is less crippled Good times.
    Lastly made some final decisions in my head about how I want to structure my deload...since I'm going crazy with it lol. Next week going back to normal frequency and volume, but still keeping intensity at 70%, and then I'll be in Hawaii, and the plan will be 100% intensity, but only doing 2-3 full body workouts the whole time I'm there. Then I'll be back and ready to go!

    Nutrition

    Target macros for metabolic rehab this week F/C/P: 55/200/240
    Actual: 2,245 54.5 199.4 239.7

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    30 mins MISS on Arc Trainer HR 120-138 hung out in the 130's for the last 15-20 mins

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    legs feel kinda heavy and still a bit sore from....hell I don't know....I guess just systemic over training lol always fun...but I think yoga this weekend and sunday hitting up a higher volume lower intensity leg day will really help clear some **** out...probably do some foam rolling tomorrow too.
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    Digging the fact that you are taking the reverse dieting as serious as the contest dieting. Itll suck at times but a couple months from now youll be some happy you did it this way, Berto is a prime example of this (all this you know).

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    I'm willing to bet your legs are still sore from contest. I have no idea why, but even after posing practice, the day of the show wipes you out physically. And for you, a combination of a billion emotions was there too.

    On a side note, I have never been as sore as berto's workout. I actually have to skip legs and do chest instead today because they're not fully recovered. talk about HIT
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    Originally Posted by visionz View Post
    Hey it's not easy being a food-devouring machine but someones got to do it. Those things look DAMN delicious in the fridge!
    You are welcome kind sir

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    Digging the fact that you are taking the reverse dieting as serious as the contest dieting. Itll suck at times but a couple months from now youll be some happy you did it this way, Berto is a prime example of this (all this you know).

    Way to hit those macros, basically dead on!
    Easily just as important to do this and not turn yourself into a fat ass while still having your metabolism in 1st gear.

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    On a side note, I have never been as sore as berto's workout. I actually have to skip legs and do chest instead today because they're not fully recovered. talk about HIT
    And just think you foam rolled those bad boys to! Ouchy
    You got that kind of sore legs where you're lookin for help to get off the throne? lol
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    pack a speedo!
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    Originally Posted by Quelly View Post
    Intro

    Well I was 191 yesterday, that's 10lbs up from morning dry weight from contest condition before I started carbing up, and I was 188.6 this morning, I'll probably keep coming down as the bloat subsides...which isn't too bad. I'm still in condition, which is neat.
    Felt like I was on the diet again today, which is good...if I feel like I did on 1500-1700kcals on 2200kcals...that HOPEFULLY means the metabolism is ramping up. Also, did the same exact cardio workout I did 2 days ago today, which got me to 150's on the HR, and I only got into the 130's this time...so obviously the metabolism thinks I'm still starving to death...so good signs.
    Like I mentioned, did cardio and visionz and his girlfriend were kind enough to meet me and barb at the gym and take the enchiladas off our hands, and we made some tentative plans for some offseason food pawnage on some weekend cheat meal days once my metabolism is less crippled Good times.
    Lastly made some final decisions in my head about how I want to structure my deload...since I'm going crazy with it lol. Next week going back to normal frequency and volume, but still keeping intensity at 70%, and then I'll be in Hawaii, and the plan will be 100% intensity, but only doing 2-3 full body workouts the whole time I'm there. Then I'll be back and ready to go!

    Nutrition

    Target macros for metabolic rehab this week F/C/P: 55/200/240
    Actual: 2,245 54.5 199.4 239.7

    Training

    Cardio:

    30 mins MISS on Arc Trainer HR 120-138 hung out in the 130's for the last 15-20 mins

    Misc

    legs feel kinda heavy and still a bit sore from....hell I don't know....I guess just systemic over training lol always fun...but I think yoga this weekend and sunday hitting up a higher volume lower intensity leg day will really help clear some **** out...probably do some foam rolling tomorrow too.
    Bringing up the calories . I bet those carbs will be very tasty! It's funny how good oats and sweet taters taste after being low carb!

    I hope you have a great time in Hawaii! I'm definitely jealous.

    By the way, your AVI is ridiculous. I probably already said that in a previous post though lol.
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    Originally Posted by CM82682 View Post
    Digging the fact that you are taking the reverse dieting as serious as the contest dieting. Itll suck at times but a couple months from now youll be some happy you did it this way, Berto is a prime example of this (all this you know).

    Way to hit those macros, basically dead on!
    Yeah, I'm not having too much trouble with it...after meal 3-4 I start feeling okay...and the weight is down to 187.2 this morning so things are going well...I'm a little worried about hawaii....a week is a lot of time lol...but I've got a plan.
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    I'm willing to bet your legs are still sore from contest. I have no idea why, but even after posing practice, the day of the show wipes you out physically. And for you, a combination of a billion emotions was there too.

    On a side note, I have never been as sore as berto's workout. I actually have to skip legs and do chest instead today because they're not fully recovered. talk about HIT
    Yeah...we got posed a good 15 minutes in my class....that was pretty rough...and yeah man....Training with Berto when he's in the zone like that....NO JOKE
    And yeah man lots of emotions for sure...and hey...I have all your tuperware bro...when you coming back up to train?
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    Easily just as important to do this and not turn yourself into a fat ass while still having your metabolism in 1st gear.



    And just think you foam rolled those bad boys to! Ouchy
    You got that kind of sore legs where you're lookin for help to get off the throne? lol
    Hey dude, I hope you and sarah aren't offended about the giving of the enchiladas away...I gave them away because they were TOO good! and Barb ate all the veggie ones!
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    pack a speedo!
    lol
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    Bringing up the calories . I bet those carbs will be very tasty! It's funny how good oats and sweet taters taste after being low carb!

    I hope you have a great time in Hawaii! I'm definitely jealous.

    By the way, your AVI is ridiculous. I probably already said that in a previous post though lol.
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    Originally Posted by Quelly View Post
    Yeah, I'm not having too much trouble with it...after meal 3-4 I start feeling okay...and the weight is down to 187.2 this morning so things are going well...I'm a little worried about hawaii....a week is a lot of time lol...but I've got a plan.
    well...considering i was in this EXACT situation...well...you knwo...substitute the poconoes for hawaii...

    i'll just say...even if you pretty much gorge yourself every day...you'll be ok. AS LONG AS YOU DON'T KEEP GOING AFTER THAT WEEK

    when i was in the poconos i pretty much ate till i was uncomfortable everyday...and yeah...i got fatter...but nothing CRAZY...

    but i don't think you'll lose it quite as badly as i did having already experience that
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    Hawaii is going to be a blast. Enjoy it while your there. I think with everything there is to do over there you won't have time to eat THAT much.
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    Originally Posted by Squizzzer View Post
    well...considering i was in this EXACT situation...well...you knwo...substitute the poconoes for hawaii...

    i'll just say...even if you pretty much gorge yourself every day...you'll be ok. AS LONG AS YOU DON'T KEEP GOING AFTER THAT WEEK

    when i was in the poconos i pretty much ate till i was uncomfortable everyday...and yeah...i got fatter...but nothing CRAZY...

    but i don't think you'll lose it quite as badly as i did having already experience that
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    Hawaii is going to be a blast. Enjoy it while your there. I think with everything there is to do over there you won't have time to eat THAT much.
    to be honest as each day passes I am less and less worried...I'm starting to realize I'm a completely different person and bodybuilder than the Eric who gained 48lbs in 2 months in 07
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    And just think you foam rolled those bad boys to! Ouchy
    You got that kind of sore legs where you're lookin for help to get off the throne? lol
    haha gotta use my hands as an anchor to push off the knees
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    Yeah...we got posed a good 15 minutes in my class....that was pretty rough...and yeah man....Training with Berto when he's in the zone like that....NO JOKE
    And yeah man lots of emotions for sure...and hey...I have all your tuperware bro...when you coming back up to train?
    he definitely seemed to have a one-track mind that day, you could see it in his face. As soon as we figure out this copier and set a date, we'll come back up for a training sesh and tupperware retrieval. I'm guessing a few months, after the holidays and before the end of the year.
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    he definitely seemed to have a one-track mind that day, you could see it in his face. As soon as we figure out this copier and set a date, we'll come back up for a training sesh and tupperware retrieval. I'm guessing a few months, after the holidays and before the end of the year.
    sounds good!
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    I was 188.6 yesterday morning, 187.2 this morning. Another day feeling lethargic, I don't know if its just being really lean, or if its a sign of being in a deficit...or both. I'm hoping its the deficit, I'd really like to believe I'm going to see a quick metabolic recovery.
    Got a pump in the gym...didn't know what the hell was going on today lol, pull is nice, even going light on the deload its just good to deadlift, do some pull ups even not to failure and do some light curls and shrugs, great mmc.
    Oh...and tomorrow I'm completely off from the gym....haven't had a day like that in 9 months LOL

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    Pull Deload, warm ups excluded

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    Really enjoyed lifting today, I'm getting that animal instinct...dirty in the basement, "I'll show you puckers..." feeling again....muscle farming time is coming soon.
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    Really enjoyed lifting today, I'm getting that animal instinct...dirty in the basement, "I'll show you puckers..." feeling again....muscle farming time is coming soon.
    Controlled Intensity You are taking the right approach Eric, the calm before the storm!
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    Controlled Intensity You are taking the right approach Eric, the calm before the storm!
    you know it luke!

    oh and for those post contest, good article:
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    Originally Posted by Quelly View Post
    you know it luke!

    oh and for those post contest, good article:
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    great article. though I didnt feel the same semi-depressive limbo that she felt, I can relate to having goals IMMEDIATELY ready for post contest. I often choose goals that are far out of reach, just so i can strive that much more. support systems are key too
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    Wicca meeting right?
    yup gotta perform my weekly dork seance, and berto left his phone en mi casa so he could get an excuse to see me again this weekend....which I love...you know the whole mexican macho thing...can't just come out and say "Eric I love you, I can't make it 5 days without seeing you again!" so he just "accidentally" leaves his phone in my house....again.
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    great article. though I didnt feel the same semi-depressive limbo that she felt, I can relate to having goals IMMEDIATELY ready for post contest. I often choose goals that are far out of reach, just so i can strive that much more. support systems are key too
    Support systems are key, and I am feeling a very mild depression...but hell...I've been in contest prep 9 months...and it was a distraction from some pretty depressing stuff! But I'm looking forward to next week's phase II of the deload...getting the volume and frequency back, and then its off to Hawaii...which to be honest...I'm a little worried about the excess fat gain...I was still 187.2 this morning...and hell...I know its the offseason...but its a tough transition
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    Originally Posted by Quelly View Post
    Support systems are key, and I am feeling a very mild depression...but hell...I've been in contest prep 9 months...and it was a distraction from some pretty depressing stuff! But I'm looking forward to next week's phase II of the deload...getting the volume and frequency back, and then its off to Hawaii...which to be honest...I'm a little worried about the excess fat gain...I was still 187.2 this morning...and hell...I know its the offseason...but its a tough transition
    I'm sure "fat" to you is still hella lean to the rest of the world! I'm sure"he's fat" is the opposite of what anyone who sees you shirtless in Hawaii will think
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    I'm sure "fat" to you is still hella lean to the rest of the world! I'm sure not a single person who sees you shirtless in Hawaii will think you look fat
    oh well let me be clear, I'm still walking around with cross striated quads, split hammies and lines in my ass lol...I just feel like I've got this energy inside ready to get after some type of concrete goal and I feel restricted by a damaged metabolism, worried about that coupled with a vacation, and held back by this deload...BUT I also know that I need to get into a healthy mode of life and focus on family and my wife and my own mental health, and face up to some of the grief and the loss that I haven't let myself deal with...and also support my family as they do the same on a few fronts...

    so I feel very conflicted...this isn't just "I look fat because I'm not 4% bodyfat anymore!" so yeah lol
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    yup gotta perform my weekly dork seance, and berto left his phone en mi casa so he could get an excuse to see me again this weekend....which I love...you know the whole mexican macho thing...can't just come out and say "Eric I love you, I can't make it 5 days without seeing you again!" so he just "accidentally" leaves his phone in my house....again.

    Support systems are key, and I am feeling a very mild depression...but hell...I've been in contest prep 9 months...and it was a distraction from some pretty depressing stuff! But I'm looking forward to next week's phase II of the deload...getting the volume and frequency back, and then its off to Hawaii...which to be honest...I'm a little worried about the excess fat gain...I was still 187.2 this morning...and hell...I know its the offseason...but its a tough transition
    I figured he'd be down so I invited him to the party on Saturday. Can he even use that phone after it took a header? lol

    Not that i know, but I can imagine that transition from super controled prep to offeason can leave one a bit wanting. Like WTF do I do with myself now type of shhh.
    I still KNOW that the rest of this year and 2010 is going to be epic! As in take notes and lots of pictures cause the ewwww factor is going to be out in full force.

    Oh and just for shhh and giggles I popped a rib this morning sneezing lol
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