This is why heavy SQUATS and DEADLIFTS are essential.

[hugeness]

I think when you do exercises such as squats and deads, your tolerance of fatigue and pain goes up. If you have not experienced a hard leg workout with squats, you haven't experienced shiatt.

[thursday22dp]

Im trying to convince my friend that doing squats/leg exercises will help his overall muscle growth and help other lifts.

Any legit articles would be nice.

[Wherestherackat]

this is thread #122332339948894994 regarding this topic.

Haha, sorry man.

[TheRdLessTravld]

The argument isn't whether or not squatting/deadlifting will increase the weight of your bench. The argument is that you will have increased muscle growth throughout your entire body by incorporating these movements. Your back and legs are your two largest muscle groups. The squat and deadlift incorporate almost every muscle in your body when done correctly and allow you to use larger amounts of weight compared to isolation excercises. By that logic how can you deny that they are more beneficial in terms of muscle growth its just plain stupidity?

[AdamJackson]

NEVER DO SQUATS OR DEADLIFTS!!! The more people that do squats and deadlifts the more massive people there will be roaming the planet and the less unique it will be. I say, don't do squats or deadlifts and let me do them for you! Also when you meet people that don't ever do squats or deadlifts, tell them that they look huge and have incredible muscle mass, then when they're not watching, load the bar up and deadlift like there's no tomorrow!!

[Al Swearengen]

Im trying to convince my friend that doing squats/leg exercises will help his overall muscle growth and help other lifts.

Any legit articles would be nice.

you won't find any because it's broscience. the only articles you will find pertain to what Defiant had linked to.

http://sportsmedicine.adisonline.com...195628!8091!-1


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1860749

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2...gdbfrom=pubmed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...gdbfrom=pubmed

all the people in this thread who think otherwise are just fooling themselves.

[unity]

The argument isn't whether or not squatting/deadlifting will increase the weight of your bench. The argument is that you will have increased muscle growth throughout your entire body by incorporating these movements. Your back and legs are your two largest muscle groups. The squat and deadlift incorporate almost every muscle in your body when done correctly and allow you to use larger amounts of weight compared to isolation excercises. By that logic how can you deny that they are more beneficial in terms of muscle growth its just plain stupidity?

well then i hope you are doing oly lifts as well, as they are much more compound movements than either squats or deadlifts.

[Tomohawk92]

i'm sure many uniformed people have injured themselves and done permenant damage to their knees trying to squat heavy weight after the pressure put on them from these boards.

we are not responsible for poor form

[-Lucifer]

Real good post!...But i doubt the beach boys will listen.... They have crunches and curls to do

I am your training partner?

And strong bump.

[Reef58]

How do you guys bump these 4 year old threads.

we are not responsible for poor form

[phoenixr2]

we are not responsible for poor form

] Hopefully Marion comes back after 4 years and realizes this

edit* ownd by reef, beat me to it lol

[Orlando1234977]

How do you guys bump these 4 year old threads.

They do it by making a post at the end of a 4 year thread.

[Reef58]

Touché

[Cuongpham]

You're bench will increase by doing heavy squats/deads. Also increases core strength. Increased core strength means more power/drive to your lifts.

squat n dead will increase benchpress??? sound like a bunch of bull**** broscience to me. no doubt squat n dead are the 2 best exercises of all time but you need to bench to phucking increase your bench.

[BombDonald]

squat n dead will increase benchpress??? sound like a bunch of bull**** broscience to me. no doubt squat n dead are the 2 best exercises of all time but you need to bench to phucking increase your bench.

bro..

[blkbelt42]

don't apologize so soon: most of us are very aware of the benefits of doing these exercises.

why the people who choose not to are so angry about it, eludes me.


there are a lot of people who are very heavy handed about people who don't do this or that on this forum, true, but it is equally amusing to see the resistance of the ones who take it as an affront.


Squatting, heavy, or otherwise, is just a great all around exercise. Is it essential? who cares? if something is good for you, then many people will do it, as they have and continue to do.

Will you make gains without squats? of course....will you make better gains? more likely because if you are doing them, you are also doing other beneficial exercises and probably paying attention to diet also.


Squats and deads are part and parcel of an overall choice: a choice of lifestyle. How much, how many, etc, that you do them, is always up to the individual.

Careful you may both be clubbed too death by the "squat or die" people.


squats and dead lifts are nice if you can and want to do them if not who gives a flying f*ck right.

exactly.

[Marcobrah]

i love these two exercises. it´s a must to do these!

[Rasputin4]

I don't know about the hormone relaese, but squats and deads are definitely excellent exercises for the entire body. They don't just engage your legs, but many other muscle groups, as well.

Yeah, if you work your bench hardcore with proper form, you'll develop nice pecs, tris, and delts. But if you don't do squats or deadlifts, you'll have a hard time developing nice quads, hamstrings, glutes, and spinor erectae, not to mention calves from calf raises. These are some of the largest muscle groups in your body.

Not to mention that squats and deadlifts work many upper body muscles as well, particularly the deadlift. They are the best overall compound movements out there.

[Bumpus]

This is why....

[chazzy1864]

If OP wasn't already red and this wasn't a 4 year old thread, then I'd definitely be negging.

[broomandabucket]

people on these boards are so obsessed with squats, i remember reading that a guy 'was shaking with rage' b/c some people dont squat.

haha that cracked me up REP+

[Faust24]

Does Leg Press machine count? Cause I don't Squat.

[ramone2485]

Real good post!...But i doubt the beach boys will listen.... They have crunches and curls to do

My thoughts exactly! Most people don't focus on their legs for some reason. If you wanna look like Joe Swanson from Family Guy, go ahead.

[ramone2485]

haha that cracked me up REP+

Oh so that's how it works. I was wondering why I see people with way more posts than me, but NO REP Power at all. I get it now.

[qudoz]

I couldn't care less if squats and deads improve your bench. I just want to know if you don't do them, what do you do for your legs?

[-Lucifer]

I just want to know if you don't do them, what do you do for your legs?

The leg press, hack squat and various lunge variations.

[TheStreetKing]

Wrong! if you could read bro what he is indicating is that to get REAL big,it is important to squat,and squatting will give you an edge over those who do not.

Dorian yates didn't do squats!

[TheFuzz1290]

Dorian yates didn't do squats!

But Arnold did, along with Ronnie, oh yeah Kai, and many others. (Those are just names I can think of off the top of my head I've seen videos of)

[darinaldi]

Squats and deads are essential because without them, how would people congratulate themselves for how hardcore they are compared to every single other person at their gym?

[-Lucifer]

But Arnold did, along with Ronnie, oh yeah Kai, and many others. (Those are just names I can think of off the top of my head I've seen videos of)

He was trying to say that you don't have to squat in order to build a decent pair of wheels. Fwiw, Yates had better legs than Arnie.