Exactly how much glucose to effectively spike insulin post workout?

[peteoconnor10]

Hey all. I've been on here for years but for some reason can't get into my old acct.

Anyhow, anyone have an idea about this? Ideally I want to maximize muscle gains while gaining as little fat as possible or even shed a little extra chub. I normally take a creatine supplement (5mg) immediately post workout along with a protein shake, but have recently started adding some additional glucose to it to put my body further into anabolic state. I'm trying to keep my diet outside of this as clean and low glycemic as possible, medium to low carb overall, high protein, and healthy fats. If the glucose is pretty much the only sugars I'm taking in, should I be shooting for around 8-10g? Or hitting it hard like 30-40g?

[gbullock32]

The amount of unneeded things you do is astonishing. The protein alone would spike insulin by the way. You should do some reading...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=156380183
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=136691851
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=129523333
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=123915821

[peteoconnor10]

Well that was encouraging.

[InItForFitness]

Well that was encouraging.

Sadly your post indicates you're lacking in even the most basic nutritional knowledge.

Therefor, you have no reason to be concerning yourself with things such as this...additionally, there is no reason for anyone to really concern themselves with it as it makes negligable (at best) difference in results.

[peteoconnor10]

Really? Thats funny bc i found this: the-muscle-building-messenger-complete-guide-to-insulin right here on this site.

I asked for a simple answer to a simple question, which either of you clearly don't have. You apparently would rather be ignorant and condescending. Let's try to make this even simpler- if anyone has an answer to this or better yet can reference any studies or charts showing relation of glucose intake (oral, not injection) to insulin response and/or how strongly insulin response correlates to muscle growth, please post. Otherwise, please post elsewhere. Thanks.

[InItForFitness]

Really? Thats funny bc i found this: the-muscle-building-messenger-complete-guide-to-insulin right here on this site.

Sadly, the main priority of this site is to sell supplements, so when you read articles on the main page you are very likely going to be told things that would convience you to buy products.

Hence the reason you read what you did.

Then the nit-pick "studies" to attempt and support their position.
It's still wrong.

I asked for a simple answer to a simple question, which either of you clearly don't have. You apparently would rather be ignorant and condescending. Let's try to make this even simpler- if anyone has an answer to this or better yet can reference any studies or charts showing relation of glucose intake (oral, not injection) to insulin response and/or how strongly insulin response correlates to muscle growth, please post. Otherwise, please post elsewhere. Thanks.

Please stop concerning yourself with aspects of training and nutrition that you're no where near experienced enough to be attempting to manipulate for enhanced results.

The fact of the matter is that these aspects of nutrition are irrelevant for the average trainee, or anyone who is not a top level athlete.



No one is being ignorant and condescending, you are simply being combative and unwilling to accept that you need to learn the basics before you can begin trying to understand the minutia details...which are pointless to concern yourself with anyways.

To begin learning the basics and understanding the functional aspects of nutrition read this thread ; http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=136691851


Please remember, you came to us for advice, not the other way around. Reading one article from the main page doesn't mean you understand the subject. There are a variety of underlying factors here that need to be taken into consideration.


Additionally...

Here is another great article for refernce and to assist you in breaking from the common dietary myths that are believed by most beginners ; http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...utrition_myths

[ironwill2008]

Really? Thats funny bc i found this: the-muscle-building-messenger-complete-guide-to-insulin right here on this site.

I asked for a simple answer to a simple question, which either of you clearly don't have. You apparently would rather be ignorant and condescending. Let's try to make this even simpler- if anyone has an answer to this or better yet can reference any studies or charts showing relation of glucose intake (oral, not injection) to insulin response and/or how strongly insulin response correlates to muscle growth, please post. Otherwise, please post elsewhere. Thanks.

Seeing as how this is an open forum, if you're going to post here, be prepared to get replies that you might not like.


Keep in mind that such replies aren't necessarily incorrect; in actuality, you've received excellent information and advice ITT whether you realize it or not.






Good luck meeting your fitness goals for 2015.

[xxxnapalmxxx]

In all honesty if you want to know the science of carb loading for insulin response, read books from people that get results from their clients. Mind you most of their base clients are pre to elite athletes. You will also notice that their diet is tailored and centered around their training. So unless you are gifted genetically this is probably the least important thing for you. By the way these people that know these things will flat out tell you the same thing.
Anyway you have to figure out how many calories you need first, breakdown of macros, then timing of said macros. Get the first two in order because they are by far the most important. If you do not compete in any thing don't worry about the details.The details will only make you a little bit better. Get the big picture first before you worry about how you should sign it.

[cumminslifter]

your answer lies within
http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/5

[MetilHed]

I asked for a simple answer to a simple question,

Yet you posted in the "Advanced Nutrition" section.


Perhaps you should post elsewhere.

[mccyjcb]

Protein alone will spike insulin to its highest peak as long as you consume enough of whatever source of protein you are eating.