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    Back in the gym after 4 years, did I do my homework on new supplements?

    Hi all first off I know the drill about the basics clean food pre and post workout meals and night time stuff. I am not going to go hardcore with everything but what I feel are the basics for now. Once I get into decent shape and have my base I'll add some serious stuff and other muscle mass products. Right now I am focusing on leaning out some fat, having my muscle memory get back. I am confident I will have fast gains of old muscle that is just out of tone.

    I did nothing but research stuff on here today and see what got good reviews and overall positive reviews.. I am not interested in having ANY Stimulants for fat burners. I am not able to handle them.

    Here is what I am about to order. I am open to any comments suggestions or whatever..

    I am torn between two fat burners:
    Universal Presents Super Cuts 3 or
    MAN Vaporize

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    Flax Seed Oil 2tbs daily ( ifn shake )

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    1 Optimum 100% Whey Protein, 2 Lbs., Vanilla Ice Cream $21.99
    2 Optimum 100% Whey Protein, 2 Lbs., Extreme Milk Chocolate$21.99 Man
    3 Olympian Labs DIM, 60 Capsules $12.99 ( i have high est levels )
    4 BSN NO-Xplode, 1.81 Lbs., Grape $38.95
    5 ISS Research ProM3, 2.2 Lbs., Chocolate Milkshake
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    When I have the money I am going to stack DCP, Lean Xtreme, and MAN scorch. If you dont want stims you can replace the Scorch with Vaporize.

    Otherwise youre stuff looks pretty good, but if you are sensitive to stims I wouldnt use NoXplode because it has a ton of caffeine.
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    look into lean xtreme v2 for a non stim fatburner
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    Originally Posted by lucifer92384 View Post
    When I have the money I am going to stack DCP, Lean Xtreme, and MAN scorch. If you dont want stims you can replace the Scorch with Vaporize.

    Otherwise youre stuff looks pretty good, but if you are sensitive to stims I wouldnt use NoXplode because it has a ton of caffeine.
    Damnit, those sneaky bastords! You are right, it was hidden in there and I missed it. 200mg isn't a lot though but I try to avoid it at all costs. Back to the drawling board. Reps for you.Thanks
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    Replace Flax oil with fish oil.
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    Originally Posted by MBSowards View Post
    Replace Flax oil with fish oil.
    Agreeing with this guy. Although I read some post recently talking about benefits of taking both but I don't remember the details.
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    Originally Posted by MBSowards View Post
    Replace Flax oil with fish oil.
    Just did some homework on fish vs flax and I am glad you just saved me some money! Thanks rep^ for you!
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    Id look into better non-stims.

    Change the NO-Xplode to Ragnarok. Warrior Melon is my fave, Blue Raz is the most popular though.
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    I wouldnt go with 3 2lb orders of the same protein in different flavors. Save some money and get a 5lb or 10b order.
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    Originally Posted by BillyBoy5885 View Post
    I wouldnt go with 3 2lb orders of the same protein in different flavors. Save some money and get a 5lb or 10b order.
    Not to be cocky but money isn't my main concern on those. I would like to save some money buying 5/10lb jugs but I haven't tasted those and feel safer making a small investment. If I pick up that 10lber and I hate it for whatever reason, I'm stuck! I do appreciate you trying to help me out though. I will buy bigger jugs once I know what tastes good to me!
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    Originally Posted by MBSowards View Post
    Replace Flax oil with fish oil.
    If you decide to take Vaporize, which I would, you don't need extra fish oils as it is already covered. Also, if money is'nt a problem I would take either 6oxo or novadex instead of the DIM.
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    Originally Posted by dinot1985 View Post
    Id look into better non-stims.

    Change the NO-Xplode to Ragnarok. Warrior Melon is my fave, Blue Raz is the most popular though.
    I was looking into them and those products sound amazing. However after being out for years, I am going to take it slow slow slow. I won't be silly and try to put up anything remotely heavy before having my body use to the idea of pumping 'heavy' weight again. I am thinking at least 1 month of light sets of 3x15-20 then working on doing 16-12-8 sets until I am ready to work up harder.

    I failed to mention this but I am not really planning to do hardcore training, more of a cutting/lean muscle gains until I figure out if I can go heavy without hurting myself (fibro, see sig) My Doc told me not to lift over 40lbs, but before my condition was very bad I was 200lb+ 15%bf and a member of the 1100lb club I have the mass still, but I am very fat compared to my training days.
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