Barbell Bent-over Row vs Dumbbell Bent-over Row

[I dont work at Ballys]

most guys dip there shoulder low when doing db rows and then yank and twist there body to pull up the db. fantastic for the ego.

a little dip in the shoulder at the bottom is actually a very effective technique. i do agree with what your saying, the twisting at the top **** is garbage, just thought i'd point that out.

[winston43]

On non-support 1-arm DB rows, where does your free arm go? Just hanging down?

I'd try it, but I know I'd probably have to take the weight down considerably; I'd be concerned about wrenching/twisting my lower back otherwise.

the barbell row is harder and ronnie coleman use it like t bar rows . dumbell rows isolate more maybe . but barbell has a carryover for the deadlift . harder exercice so you burn more calories than dumbbell row . harder to row 300 pounds 9 reps than a 155 pounds dumbbell 9 rreps . i think .

[LightsOut06]

both are good I guess. I just hate having to train one side at a time. Doing a set of dumbell rows takes twice the time it takes to do barbell rows. But with barbell rows, going heavy puts alot of strain on my back. For these reasons, I do neither and op for pullups and chinups in my madcow program instead.

[lfreday39x]

DB Row is also an isolation excersice. It do add muscle to the back but also help in building the proportion of both left & right lats. Which BB Row cant do.

Any type of row is a compound exercise, but you are right DB rows are better at making sure both lats are proportional.

[lfreday39x]

both are good I guess. I just hate having to train one side at a time. Doing a set of dumbell rows takes twice the time it takes to do barbell rows. But with barbell rows, going heavy puts alot of strain on my back. For these reasons, I do neither and op for pullups and chinups in my madcow program instead.

Is it not possible to do both sides at the same time? Just like a barbell, bent over? I thought I seen a demo of it on another website. If I come across it I will share it with you.

[alexanderberg]

Is it not possible to do both sides at the same time? Just like a barbell, bent over? I thought I seen a demo of it on another website. If I come across it I will share it with you.

Strong thread resurrection.

[29a]

db row is also an isolation excersice. It do add muscle to the back but also help in building the proportion of both left & right lats. Which bb row cant do.

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[Liquidtensi0n]

This...

I don't get why people do bench supported DB rows period. Very few people do them right and end up doing some kind of power twist to throw the weight up and catch it at the top. If you know how to do these without cheating and have legitimate reason why you can't stand up and bend over then I guess it's fine. Otherwise, doing both sides at the same time is just more natural in my opinion. I tend to prefer these over BB rows because they help me keep my left/right sides balanced, otherwise my right tends to dominate.

Also some food for thought. I tend to match my rows to whatever I'm doing on bench. Right now I only DB bench and focusing on DB rows has helped my strength this significantly. When I am go back to BB bench I'll throw in more BB rows into the mix to complement it.

Is it not possible to do both sides at the same time? Just like a barbell, bent over? I thought I seen a demo of it on another website. If I come across it I will share it with you.

[OptimumBody]

I was reading a few studies and from personal experience and I've noticed and read that you can lift more weight with the Dumbbell Bent-over Row compared to the Barbell Bent-over Row

Both expercises are classified as compound movements so wouldn't the Dumbbell Bent-over Row be the most effective one in terms of adding mass?

Dummbell Row hit more your lats and put less tension on your lower back compared to Bent-over Barbell Rows. Otherwise, they both target the middle and upper back muscles.
It depends also how are you doing the Barbell Rows - pronated or supinated grips. A neutral grip is used in DB Rows.

[nwc6]

With barbell rows, I let the bar come to a complete rest on the floor between each rep. I feel like I have better form this way (plus the contraction feels stronger) and that the exercise ends up being more explosive. it also reduces low back strain and is easier to keep a back angle closer to parallel with the ground.

With Dumbbell rows, I can go really heavy and still achieve a big range of motion with a great stretch at the bottom of the movement. Definitely a great movement and it also helps take strain off the lower back by using the bench for support. I advocate being a little sloppy with these but obviously you should overdo it and be jerking the weight everywhere.

So that said both variations have +/- and both should be used for different reasons. Especially when it comes to back, using a variety of exercises can really help get it where you want. I'd suggest t-bar rows, cable rows, inverted TRX/Oly Ring/Smith Machine rows (fatman chins), band pull apart & Batwings as some additional exercises in the same plane of motion. Of course that's in addition to your vertical pulls and pulls from the floor.

[GinoGarzolini]

What do you guys think about the double dumbbell row? Bent over at the hips like a barbell row but Double DB row with neutral grip?

[Bushmaster]

What do you guys think about the double dumbbell row? Bent over at the hips like a barbell row but Double DB row with neutral grip?

Huge fan.

[Ekaen]

It's the neutral grip

You can try one arm dumbbell rows while holding onto something with your other hand and you can try with your arm behind your back, you can even try to bend over and use two dumbbells at once and you'll notice the weight doesn't change and that you are still stronger with dumbbells than with barbells.

Simply because you use more muscles with the neutral grip than any other grip.

Neutral grip= All arm muscles and emphasis on lats
Prone grip = Much stress on brachioradialis and rear delt and little to no bicep or brachialis
supine grip =All the stress goes on the brachialis and biceps