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    Decided on a whim to pull tonight for the first time in about a year and a half. Not only is the nerve in my lower back no longer pinching at lockout(which is why I stopped pulling all together), I muscled up a 606 single which ive never done raw before. Was slow at the top and the movement pattern felt weird because it's been so long but was nice to break a PR by 30+ pounds the first time out and deadlift pain free.

    I guess I'll have to start adding them back in slowly now that I can pull without my spine detaching from my pelvis.

    Anyone have a good deadlift program?

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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Decided on a whim to pull tonight for the first time in about a year and a half. Not only is the nerve in my lower back no longer pinching at lockout(which is why I stopped pulling all together), I muscled up a 606 single which ive never done raw before. Was slow at the top and the movement pattern felt weird because it's been so long but was nice to break a PR by 30+ pounds the first time out and deadlift pain free.

    I guess I'll have to start adding them back in slowly now that I can pull without my spine detaching from my pelvis.

    Anyone have a good deadlift program?
    Probably wouldn't run a deadlift specific program until you have some work capacity again. Just use some kind of LP and gradually add volume for the time being.
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    Originally Posted by Big.Jazayrli View Post
    Probably wouldn't run a deadlift specific program until you have some work capacity again. Just use some kind of LP and gradually add volume for the time being.
    I agree with this. After injury it works best for me to start low again get your form back. And just add weight every weight to get back up.
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    APT is just one dude, Alan. He just sources the raw material, gets it manufactured and finished elsewhere, and then retails the finished product. He had to discontinue certain wrap lines because they are extremely expensive for the material, have long lead times, and have large minimum order quantities(2-3miles of wrap). So now he only gets his most popular wraps(strang/convict) made from the US webbing supplier and everything else comes from Pakistan. Those new wraps are not USA made, I asked. When he ran low on his US made stuff he got cheap paki stuff to fill the gap in between orders. A few years ago he just stopped shipping all together and was almost out of business because he couldn't get raw material.

    That's why there's varying batches of wrap material, despite being called the same name and looking cosmetically the same. Nearly all fitness/gear companies get their raw material from overseas, because they are significantly cheaper and don't require huge orders. Of course, quality suffers.
    I'm surprised how honest he is with where his wraps are coming from. So general leathercraft had a bunch of paki stuff too? I thought they're the actual manufacturer of the good elastics. These companies need to get their **** together and stop being so inconsistent with their quality. If you're gonna tell people you sell the best wraps around then sell them the good ****. And instead of having 34 different types of wraps on your website, why not just focus on selling 3-5 and make them good as fuk? Inzer/Titan/Harris might not have the most aggressive wraps but at least their quality is always top notch and consistent.


    That's a big reason why my death row wraps are tucked away. I know how good they are and PBG is super sketchy right now so I want to save them for when I really need them.
    Didn't Brandon just have a kid or something? I'm pretty sure they'll be back in stock sooner or later, just because their wraps were so damn popular even though the customer service is insanely poor.

    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Decided on a whim to pull tonight for the first time in about a year and a half. Not only is the nerve in my lower back no longer pinching at lockout(which is why I stopped pulling all together), I muscled up a 606 single which ive never done raw before. Was slow at the top and the movement pattern felt weird because it's been so long but was nice to break a PR by 30+ pounds the first time out and deadlift pain free.

    I guess I'll have to start adding them back in slowly now that I can pull without my spine detaching from my pelvis.

    Anyone have a good deadlift program?
    Back to no deadlifting for a year and a half? I'll take a 30lb PR without deadlifting any time.
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    I guess I'll have to start adding them back in slowly now that I can pull without my spine detaching from my pelvis.
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    What's the grippy material some people recommend to put on benches if they're slippery?

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    il see you on the battlefield bae

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    That's good dude!
    Oh for sure! Just a little unexpected.

    Originally Posted by SPFjudge View Post
    Because a lot of people prefer their wraps. You can't use a super stiff wrap with 2m, you don't get enough revs. I used inzer wraps. CYC uses inzer wraps. You think CYC and dietmar haven't tried a whole bunch of wraps to see whats best?
    Just wondering, what do you consider to be enough revs?

    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Decided on a whim to pull tonight for the first time in about a year and a half. Not only is the nerve in my lower back no longer pinching at lockout(which is why I stopped pulling all together), I muscled up a 606 single which ive never done raw before. Was slow at the top and the movement pattern felt weird because it's been so long but was nice to break a PR by 30+ pounds the first time out and deadlift pain free.

    I guess I'll have to start adding them back in slowly now that I can pull without my spine detaching from my pelvis.

    Anyone have a good deadlift program?
    Nice! So deadlifts have agitated your back but squats weren't? It's usually the other way around for me.

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    Originally Posted by dang111 View Post
    Just wondering, what do you consider to be enough revs?


    Nice! So deadlifts have agitated your back but squats weren't? It's usually the other way around for me.
    7 revs is usually the minimum for a good wrap job.


    I tweaked my back when squatting in nov 2014, after that I could pull pain free until about 3 inches from lockout, and then got a stabbing pain right around l5-s1. Didn't matter sumo or conv. Tried to pull every so often since then, and as soon as I got more than 315 on the bar id get stabbing pain at lockout, so I just stopped training them and did post chain accessories instead.

    Turns out you get a lot stronger at squatting when you don't have to recover from pulling. Im naturally a much better puller than squatter but now it's the other way around. I think if I can train pulls pain free again I'll see some nice progress, considering my squat has gone up ~100kg since then.

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    Hi fam. Recorded a vid from behind of my squats and noticed bar unevenness/one elbow higher than the other. Has anyone experienced this? Any tips.

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    Hi fam. Recorded a vid from behind of my squats and noticed bar unevenness/one elbow higher than the other. Has anyone experienced this? Any tips.
    Center the bar on your back.
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    Anyone here squat wide-ish and have trouble keeping hips open/knees out? Wut do?

    I find towards the bottom it requires a lot of mobility and my knees go a little in. May or may not be contributing to glute/low back pain that I get now and then. It's not always there, and I find with pause squats I hold position a lot better than normal squat.
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    Originally Posted by michael_xyz View Post
    Anyone here squat wide-ish and have trouble keeping hips open/knees out? Wut do?

    I find towards the bottom it requires a lot of mobility and my knees go a little in. May or may not be contributing to glute/low back pain that I get now and then. It's not always there, and I find with pause squats I hold position a lot better than normal squat.
    Is it on the way down or way up?

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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Decided on a whim to pull tonight for the first time in about a year and a half. Not only is the nerve in my lower back no longer pinching at lockout(which is why I stopped pulling all together), I muscled up a 606 single which ive never done raw before. Was slow at the top and the movement pattern felt weird because it's been so long but was nice to break a PR by 30+ pounds the first time out and deadlift pain free.

    I guess I'll have to start adding them back in slowly now that I can pull without my spine detaching from my pelvis.

    Anyone have a good deadlift program?
    Woot woot!

    Originally Posted by michael_xyz View Post
    Anyone here squat wide-ish and have trouble keeping hips open/knees out? Wut do?

    I find towards the bottom it requires a lot of mobility and my knees go a little in. May or may not be contributing to glute/low back pain that I get now and then. It's not always there, and I find with pause squats I hold position a lot better than normal squat.
    Maybe toe angle is too narrow or stance just too damn wide for your leverages?
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Is it on the way down or way up?
    Around the hole (up or down) my knee will sorta "twitch" as it tries to maintain positioning but it's kinda tough. Knees don't go in much at all, it's quite subtle, but it may contribute to issues if the glute isn't firing as much.

    Originally Posted by MF83 View Post
    Maybe toe angle is too narrow or stance just too damn wide for your leverages?
    I don't like how wide it is, but I can't really do any narrower due to my injury. I realise it's a bit ironic but narrow = definite pain regardless of knees maintained out. Whereas this width, whilst pretty darn wide, is best I can do to mitigate some pain and it doesn't always hurt which is best I can do for now.

    (Seen few PTs etc. but nothing has helped much, kinda just given up on it)
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    Hi fam, first time poster long time stalker. Ordered PBG knee wraps nearly three weeks ago and have yet to receive a tracking number. I know it's well documented their customer service is horrible but has anyone ordered from them and what's the expected arrival time if there is any.
    Good luck with that, I think Martin waited several months and had to file a bunch of complaints to get his.

    I ordered mine last year and got them in 4 weeks but that was before problems arose

    Originally Posted by michael_xyz View Post
    Around the hole (up or down) my knee will sorta "twitch" as it tries to maintain positioning but it's kinda tough. Knees don't go in much at all, it's quite subtle, but it may contribute to issues if the glute isn't firing as much.


    I don't like how wide it is, but I can't really do any narrower due to my injury. I realise it's a bit ironic but narrow = definite pain regardless of knees maintained out. Whereas this width, whilst pretty darn wide, is best I can do to mitigate some pain and it doesn't always hurt which is best I can do for now.
    Move your heels in slightly but keep your toes out. Start with a couple cm per side and go from there.

    Start doing all the glute med and core strength work.

    The slight twitch inwards on the way up is your quads firing to reverse the bar and isn't an issue unless you have knee pain. If it's happening on the way down that's a different story.

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    Squats just have too many variables. High/middle/low bar, flats/heels, sit back/sit down, knee out/knees forward, feet out/feet forward, wide/medium/narrow stance, wide/medium/narrow grip, thumbless/thumbs around grip, elbows back/elbows under..

    I can see why people go push/pull, figuring out what works for you in the squat is a ****ing nightmare

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    here is the new highest world record squat w/o wraps (942#)

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    Originally Posted by wollo7 View Post
    here is the new highest world record squat w/o wraps (942#)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BERmI-9AC1i/

    and just for fun https://www.instagram.com/p/BD_tZ7RAC6o/
    yes. but I'm just an internet hater or something probably.

    Ray Ray will show us how it's done soon enough. The natty hero we deserve.

    Any video of Eric L's squat yet?

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    Originally Posted by NorthStrong View Post
    yes. but I'm just an internet hater or something probably.

    Ray Ray will show us how it's done soon enough. The natty hero we deserve.

    Any video of Eric L's squat yet?

    Also at the meet I was spotting and loading at today (CPU meet, exceptionally well run meet), I entered the raffle prize draw thing... and i won!

    That is legit.
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    dont put words in my mouth either you stupid little sh_t

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    We can bash the IPF on various levels but at least if someone tells you X did Y lift in 99.99% of cases you don't have to question it.

    I can't unrack that, though.
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    Bearmod's long lost brother? ^
    Bill could probably squat 900 if he cut them as high as those UPA squats haha

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    Apparently there was a record squat by a girl on Westside Instagram and it got taken down because it was the highest squat that has ever been evered. Anybody know about dis?
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