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    Originally Posted by Djibouti360 View Post
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    srs sorry brah

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    Originally Posted by soznotnatty View Post
    this video about islam talks about why we are here, believing in one god and scientific facts from the quran

    The Bible also contains scientific facts in the Old Testament, which was written centuries before the Quran. Scholars believe the oldest book in the Bible was written 1500 B.C.


    http://www.compellingtruth.org/errors-quran.html
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    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh1VU-_OF98

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    The bibles the truth because the bible says it's the truth.
    The quran is the truth because the quran says it's the truth.

    Everyone is born an atheist for a reason.

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    jesus is literally love. he didnt come to save those who didnt need saving, he came to save those who are ****ed and need him. try to remember that.
    sober brah

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    Originally Posted by Hagakure31 View Post
    jesus is literally love. he didnt come to save those who didnt need saving, he came to save those who are ****ed and need him. try to remember that.
    why jesus though?

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    rolling in a roll bread. I'm christian monday through friday and on the weekend I feel like being an atheist.

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    Originally Posted by Hagakure31 View Post
    jesus is literally love. he didnt come to save those who didnt need saving, he came to save those who are ****ed and need him. try to remember that.
    But if you don't worship him and his father you're going to burn in Hell for all eternity with no chance of salvation.

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    Originally Posted by HipsterBrahh View Post
    why jesus though?
    the way he acted towards the common folks as opposed to the upper class jewish religious folks always reminds me. jesus was a bro, he loved those that society hated ; lepers, hookers, tax collectors, all around shiit bags (ie you and me)

    one of my favouite sayings from the bible :

    Hebrews 13:2


    Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.


    Be ****ing nice to people.
    sober brah

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    Originally Posted by HipsterBrahh View Post
    why jesus though?
    Jesus is the son of God. Only he was capable of washing away our sins.

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    Originally Posted by HipsterBrahh View Post
    how do you know if you're interpreting something "correctly"? what do you do if unsure?

    Read the Bible, talk to pastors/Bible believing Christians, etc. I also do research online. Here are a couple of websites I go to:

    http://www.Jesus-is-savior.com
    http://www.gotquestions.org
    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh1VU-_OF98

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    Originally Posted by BroImNigerian View Post
    But if you don't worship him and his father you're going to burn in Hell for all eternity with no chance of salvation.
    Wrong. Have you ever read the Bible? its literally in the first few pages. Believing in Jesus isn't enough. You have to be good and do good.

    Mathew 7:21


    "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven''
    sober brah

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    Originally Posted by Hagakure31 View Post
    the way he acted towards the common folks as opposed to the upper class jewish religious folks always reminds me. jesus was a bro, he loved those that society hated ; lepers, hookers, tax collectors, all aroundshiit bags (ie you and me)

    one of my favouite sayings from the bible :

    Hebrews 13:2


    Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.


    Be ****ing nice to people.
    Which you should do anyway, you shouldn't need a God to convince you either by fear or a bribe to do this.

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    Religion shouldn't be apart of a stupid ****ing fad. I'm not religious but I take it seriously. Read the bible and gain a true understanding of Christianity since people have died for it.
    To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering - Nietzsche

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    christian brahs explain me this

    Leviticus 11:7-8

    7 And the pig, though it has a divided hoof, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 8 You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.

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    Originally Posted by soznotnatty View Post
    christian brahs explain me this

    Leviticus 11:7-8

    7 And the pig, though it has a divided hoof, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 8 You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.
    Read the Bible. Peter refutes the dietary laws of the Jews for Christians.
    sober brah

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    Originally Posted by Hagakure31 View Post
    Wrong. Have you ever read the Bible? its literally in the first few pages. Believing in Jesus isn't enough. You have to be good and do good.

    Mathew 7:21


    "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven''
    Okay but if you don't do that you burn in hell for all eternity.

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    Every time I go a while without listening to someone talk about religion I get to thinking it would be interesting to read why they believe in god then I see I thread like this or maybe someone starts talking irl and I start listening/reading and immediately feel like killing myself because its always the dumbest **** of all time.

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    Originally Posted by Hagakure31 View Post
    the way he acted towards the common folks as opposed to the upper class jewish religious folks always reminds me. jesus was a bro, he loved those that society hated ; lepers, hookers, tax collectors, all around shiit bags (ie you and me)

    one of my favouite sayings from the bible :

    Hebrews 13:2


    Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.


    Be ****ing nice to people.
    Jesus was just a man, the God of the Bible had a different personality.

    What about all of the verses from the OT where God orders his armies to kill entire villages, and rape their virgin daughters?

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    Originally Posted by BroImNigerian View Post
    Okay but if you don't do that you burn in hell for all eternity.
    I think you're vision of fire and hell brimstone hell is based heavily on a protestant point of view. We try to picture Hell as a separation of us and God, which by living as a piece of **** is Hell already. Whats a few more years? lol.
    sober brah

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    Op, god almost definitely isn't real and Christianity especially is just straight up retarded. Look into it, and I'm sure you'll see how ridiculous it all is. And if you don't see how ridiculous it is, then you are literally ignorant.

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    Srs answer despite being a roll - if you think you've "gone full retard" then chances are your heart's not in it and you're doing it for the sake of being an dirty hipster.

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    Either this is a roll bread or op you are a srs dumb kent, you probably dont even know ass about buddhism either.

    Seriously study the religion then decide, from your posts you went to church and think OH jolly now should convert. Like wtf?

    btw I believe in god and have studied a lot of religions growing up. I prefer to use philosophies from eastern belief systems/religions

    However, Abrahamic religions were meant for the avg person in terms of intellect that was dumb. Throughout history you see that as soon as more information has begun to come out that contradicted christianity heavily, (not that some contradictions IRL aren't just obvious e.g. Humans are some really superior species, other animals have no souls and therefore are dumb/unintelligent. I mean you dont even need to have research to prove how stupid that is ), the truely smart people became agnostic or atheist. I believe in God but I find it a joke that people think these guys 2000 years ago, who were much less advanced got God revealed to them or w/e and could understand him by reading a dumb book that gives God human traits such as arrogance, wrath, anger etc. God is beyond humans and not understandable if God exists. Also how can you support a God so hard that is as narcissistic as the Abrahamic one? He basically asks to be praised every day like a child
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    Originally Posted by Hagakure31 View Post
    Wrong. Have you ever read the Bible? its literally in the first few pages. Believing in Jesus isn't enough. You have to be good and do good.

    Mathew 7:21


    "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven''


    That's works based salvation, and we know salvation is not of works but by faith alone in Christ alone.

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)

    And you forgot to quote the verse right after Matthew 7:21:

    "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? (Matthew 7:22)

    I believe they failed because they were relying on their own self-righteous works. They were supposed to rely on Jesus' righteousness.

    Also, in Matthew 7:21 which you quoted, the 'will of the Father' is this:

    "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:35-40)
    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh1VU-_OF98

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    Get a Bible and read it for yourself. Jesus' words are what you are after, not a preacher. I think you are making a good decision. The key to understanding true Christianity is through a personal relationship with God, not an organization or charismatic leader type.

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    I believe the Bible is infallible. If there is something that looks like a contradiction, it's because we aren't interpreting it correctly. Jesus was sentenced to death because the people accused Him of blasphemy. The Bible is clear that Jesus and God are One:

    John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    Also, in John 10:30, Jesus says, "I and [my] Father are one."

    There are plenty of other scriptures that back up this claim: http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/...-Jesus-Is-God/

    http://www.gotquestions.org/is-Jesus-God.html
    Let me ask you this; is there anything that make you change your mind about Christianity? Suppose there was a clear evidence of contradiction, no matter, and you believe it to be a contradiction, would you leave Christianity? My criteria is having contradiction in the Quran. if there is a contradiction, that is a sufficient reason to leave. Do you stand by that condition for the Bible?

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    Judaism > Christianity > Islam were revealed in that order. Read all 3 Holy books and study the Prophets and their lives. The Qu'ran is the final revelation and a living miracle in itself. Also read other texts from other faiths such as Taoism, Buddhism, whatever tickles your pickle for comparison and to deepen your knowledge.

    Practice your religion. Religion is a practical matter, sitting around in a trance all day isn't advisable, put your knowledge to use and use your life as an expression of your beliefs and knowledge.

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    Are people trolling ITT or are you literally retarded?

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    Isn´t christianity too mainstream?

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