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    Not my thing but i believe they should be able to do it. So, signed.
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    That's going to be difficult. What is the reason?

    Money would be my guess. To 99,99% of the population this is a freakshow, and I can't imagine there's a big market for hardcore female bodybuilding. Although it's not my thing, it sucks for the women who devoted their lives to this.
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    Originally Posted by TrainFromChild View Post
    That's going to be difficult. What is the reason?

    Money would be my guess. To 99,99% of the population this is a freakshow, and I can't imagine there's a big market for hardcore female bodybuilding. Although it's not my thing, it sucks for the women who devoted their lives to this.
    The thing with female bb, is that it became a freak show even within the bb community. Male bodybuilding is just as much of a repulsive freakshow to an outsider.
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    A lot of these women bust their ass left and right, no reason why there shouldn't be a women's Olympia yet some of these other divisions stay
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    It is despicable and disgraceful to remove women's bodybuilding from the scene, absolutely mind blowing that it would cross the officials' minds.

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    LOL what they're getting rid of women's bodybuilding? Not my thing but that's ridiculous.

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    What's to stop them from lowering their vitamin uptake and competing in Physique?


    Not saying this is the reason at all, but as a pro to the situation, they will be less unhealthy.




    And I believe once a pro always a pro in the IFBB. They won't need to re-qualify as a pro for another division, they can just move to it and compete there.
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    Originally Posted by RoroCwalker View Post
    It is despicable and disgraceful to remove women's bodybuilding from the scene, absolutely mind blowing that it would cross the officials' minds.

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    This, the fact that I don't enjoy it doesn't mean these women deserve to have it removed.
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    Free market capitalism.

    If there is no market for upper-tier female bodybuilding then it will cease to exist. Why should people bail it out? If it's not self-sufficient then it should die a natural death. A death that it has quite clearly been dying for quite a few years now. Don't forget that these shows aren't separate from the industry, they're intertwined with the larger business. Sponsors and businesses' don't want to be throwing money at contests that bring them negligible amounts of revenue.

    I've been around bodybuilding for over 25 years now, as my father used to compete when I was young. However, even now and after all that I'm desensitized to, I find the Ms Olympia contest to be disgusting. I most certainly won't be won't be signing anything. If the competitions have merit, and a place in the market, they will exist on their own premise. They clearly don't.
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    Originally Posted by anthonymilkins View Post
    Free market capitalism.

    If there is no market for upper-tier female bodybuilding then it will cease to exist. Why should people bail it out? If it's not self-sufficient then it should die a natural death. A death that it has quite clearly been dying for quite a few years now. Don't forget that these shows aren't separate from the industry, they're intertwined with the larger business. Sponsors and businesses' don't want to be throwing money at contests that bring them negligible amounts of revenue.

    I've been around bodybuilding for over 25 years now, as my father used to compete when I was young. However, even now and after all that I'm desensitized to, I find the Ms Olympia contest to be disgusting. I most certainly won't be won't be signing anything. If the competitions have merit, and a place in the market, they will exist on their own premise. They clearly don't.
    Agree with this ^

    Women's bodybuilding is not dying because people aren't interested in women's physical development, they have bikini, figure, and even this new physique division. People just don't like what it's become with women who have lost every secondary sexual characteristic identifying them as female. Soon they're gonna have to bring back urine testing but instead of checking for drugs they'll be checking for gender lol

    Although men's bodybuilding is considered by some to be a freak show it is at least based on overloading masculinity, pretty much just exaggerated versions of the "ideal" mans physique. Women's bodybuilding isn't an exaggeration, it's a complete switch into another gender where women compete for that same "ideal" MANS physique.

    If bodybuilding hopes to increase in popularity in the future it needs to cut what isn't popular, and focus on improving what is.
    Cut women's bodybuilding, invest time and effort in men's physique,
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    Originally Posted by igor_1311 View Post
    Agree with this ^

    Women's bodybuilding is not dying because people aren't interested in women's physical development, they have bikini, figure, and even this new physique division. People just don't like what it's become with women who have lost every secondary sexual characteristic identifying them as female. Soon they're gonna have to bring back urine testing but instead of checking for drugs they'll be checking for gender lol

    Although men's bodybuilding is considered by some to be a freak show it is at least based on overloading masculinity, pretty much just exaggerated versions of the "ideal" mans physique. Women's bodybuilding isn't an exaggeration, it's a complete switch into another gender where women compete for that same "ideal" MANS physique.
    Pro bodybuilding is not a search for the ideal, as that would be impossible since there is no ideal. Having the criteria set, women did what men did. They got bigger and harder, and pushed the standards...which is the natural result of a competitive environment.

    In pumping iron 2 there was a discussion about this with Ben Weider. Do we set limits or not? they didn't, so what we see today was inevitable. I find it unfair that the people who sacrifice more for the love of the sport, are getting abandoned. But as was previously said, that is the nature of business, and the IFBB is all about business... and nothing about bodybuilding.
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    Female bodybuilding today...mens tomorrow.

    I swear in 10 years I can see mens bodybuilding being as much a 'freak show' and a niche within the fitness community as female BBing is now.
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    Originally Posted by MaKaiser View Post
    I swear in 10 years I can see mens bodybuilding being as much a 'freak show' and a niche within the fitness community as female BBing is now.
    Based on what evidence? It's more popular now than it's ever been. The 'freak show' aspect doesn't exactly have the same relationship with market value in men's that it does in women's. In fact the impact is opposite.
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    Is there a petition to ban the Ms Olympia? Ill sign that.
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    Originally Posted by HeroesFall View Post
    What's to stop them from lowering their vitamin uptake and competing in Physique?


    Not saying this is the reason at all, but as a pro to the situation, they will be less unhealthy.




    And I believe once a pro always a pro in the IFBB. They won't need to re-qualify as a pro for another division, they can just move to it and compete there.
    It's not that easy, if not impossible. It's like saying that male bodybuilding pros could compete in physique if they lower the dose. These two divisions require different body types, plus other factors, like face or appealing to the crowds. A guy like Jay is a great bodybuilder, but his body just isn't suited for male physique division. Same goes for plenty of FBBers. Even if she is in the bikini division, Amanda Latona is a walking sex teaser, and that's why she has success in the industry.
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    Originally Posted by anthonymilkins View Post
    Based on what evidence? It's more popular now than it's ever been. The 'freak show' aspect doesn't exactly have the same relationship with market value in men's that it does in women's. In fact the impact is opposite.
    Well the explosion in popularity in physique divisions for one.

    The IFBB are going to invest in the area that is most profitable. Investors/sponsors will also seek the most profitable athletes. With less and less prize money and sponsorship opportunities for bodybuilders the desire to even go to that level could fade. Obviously no...it will never be as outcast as female bodybuilding but you get my point.

    Bodybuilding is becoming less and less the goal for even the most dedicated of gym goers.
    When we as fans start ostracizing the more niche areas (such as female bbing) in favour of profits and popularity eventually the accountants finger could point the way of the mens open.
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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    Is there a petition to ban the Ms Olympia? Ill sign that.
    This, also if we could keep physique/bikini/figure and any new divisions the IFBB concocts to money grab to their own day, that'd be great.

    Originally Posted by MaKaiser View Post
    Female bodybuilding today...mens tomorrow.

    I swear in 10 years I can see mens bodybuilding being as much a 'freak show' and a niche within the fitness community as female BBing is now.
    This'll never happen because men (and a small number of women) will always be interested in seeing other men push themselves to their limits, female bodybuilding=a transsexual version of female sports. How many people want to see female sports? Ok now divide that by the number of people that want to see that with women going AGAINST their biology and having their blood panel appear more masculine than mine, yours or anyone that posted ITT.
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    where's the petition to celebrate this news?


    wtf is wrong with those women psychologically, seriously.
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    It might've been more popular if the rightful Ms Olympia had been crowned these last couple of years - Alina Popa!
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    lets face it, to most people male pro bodybuilding is a freakshow let alone female bodybuilding.
    i think ifbb is trying to bring fitness competition into mainstream. starting the physique division -which looks ridiculous to many bodybuilding fans- and getting rid of the female bodybuilding is part of that strategy.
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    I hope they don't get rid of it. Alina got robbed out of first place this year and since the other chick retired she'll win for sure next year. Then my gym would have #1 male and #1 female bodybuilders.
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    Female bodybuilders are usually ugly as ****, like holy **** why do they even do this to their body....it's disgusting. But I don't care if they want to compete but in my opinion it's disgusting.
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    Originally Posted by anthonymilkins View Post
    Free market capitalism.

    If there is no market for upper-tier female bodybuilding then it will cease to exist. Why should people bail it out? If it's not self-sufficient then it should die a natural death. A death that it has quite clearly been dying for quite a few years now. Don't forget that these shows aren't separate from the industry, they're intertwined with the larger business. Sponsors and businesses' don't want to be throwing money at contests that bring them negligible amounts of revenue.

    I've been around bodybuilding for over 25 years now, as my father used to compete when I was young. However, even now and after all that I'm desensitized to, I find the Ms Olympia contest to be disgusting. I most certainly won't be won't be signing anything. If the competitions have merit, and a place in the market, they will exist on their own premise. They clearly don't.
    I think some of the women look feminine (Alana Schipp, Alina Popa, Anne Freitas) but a lot of them don't look "pretty" that's for sure.


    The main thing I agree with here is that this is the market at work. I won't say "free" market since there's tons of regulations on businesses, but at the end of the day, people are not willing to pay for tickets. I WANT for the Ms. Olympia to stick around, but the only way that's gonna happen is if people put their money where their mouth is and *pay* for tickets.


    I also feel that some website should offer a streaming webcast in HD that fans can pay for. People who want the free version can see it in the quality we're used to, but they could charge for an HD stream. Just my two cents. I don't know if it would turn out profitable or not. But I personally, would be willing to pay $50 or so for an HD stream.

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    I hope they don't get rid of it. Alina got robbed out of first place this year and since the other chick retired she'll win for sure next year. Then my gym would have #1 male and #1 female bodybuilders.
    Alina wasn't robbed. She just plain wasn't conditioned enough to win, period. According to my preferences, I would've had Alina winning too...but according to the history of judging criteria and how much conditioning is emphasized at the Olympia, it was obvious that Iris was gonna win. That's awesome that Alina trains at your gym though!
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