I remember watching Kevin Levrone give an interview where he said that, during the off-season, he was around 220 lbs as he felt far more comfortable at that weight. Then in the lead up to competition he would shoot up to the 245 lbs range. How the hell does that work? It goes against all logic, surely?
How do you build muscle in the off-season when you weigh *less* than what you do in on stage? I'm guessing this has a lot to do with cell tech?
He also said Lee Haney did it, btw. Anyone got any input?
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10-03-2014, 03:10 PM #1
Bodybuilders who "grow into" shows, how exactly does that work?
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10-03-2014, 03:29 PM #2Registered User
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Pretty sure the "secret" is having ridiculous genetics.
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10-03-2014, 03:53 PM #3BRB Shredding
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yes, it has a lot to do with cell tech
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10-03-2014, 04:11 PM #4Registered User
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They go from 5 to 8 meals to add the size and add 30min cardio each day to burn the fat = PROFIT.
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10-03-2014, 04:11 PM #5Registered User
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Are you that dense? Drugs obviously
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10-03-2014, 04:54 PM #6Sexual Tyrannosaurus
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10-03-2014, 05:40 PM #7feelin like im lookin ;)
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Drugs and food
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10-03-2014, 07:04 PM #8I Am Teh Lolrus
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Drugs, food, genetics, and muscle memory.
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10-03-2014, 08:27 PM #9Token Deaf Guy
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Stealth has got it right.
He was more comfortable offseason since his muscles was not in the way. For those who plan on getting big, make sure you get a comfortable bed that you can sink into or you will have to find certain new positions to sleep as you get bigger. It was annoying having my arms fall asleep if I slept in my favorite position. It gets annoying and that is just one aspect.
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10-03-2014, 08:31 PM #10Registered User
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Most of the bodybuilders that grow into shows are the ones who reduce the supps during the offseason (like Heath and Levrone). Because they increase the supps dramatically, they gain muscle and their BF% decreases.
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10-03-2014, 08:55 PM #11Registered User
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There's certain sups they add during prep to help them grow and burn fat at the same time.
These sups are heavy on the liver etc so they are not taken throughout the year
Phil has the luxury of only needing to compete in one show so he only has to have to run these sups onceLast edited by hzx; 10-03-2014 at 09:02 PM.
you mad because i'm right?
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10-03-2014, 10:02 PM #13feelin like im lookin ;)
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Oh you mean STEROIDS.Originally Posted by hzx
Most pros arent growing into shows in any significant way anymore since most are not coming off (at least not all the way) during their offseason. Adding more compounds into the mix during a prep allows some to build muscle while getting leaner (particularly those who respond really well to aas) but since many dont come off during the offseason theyre simply using aas to help them retain muscle during heavy dieting/cardio.
And even the ones who ARE growing into a show ARENT going from 200 to a contest ready 220, its more like going from 220 to a contest ready 210
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only one of these things. Rhymes with HenOriginally Posted by stealth_swimmer
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10-03-2014, 10:11 PM #15BRB Shredding
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Significantly smaller in the offseasonOriginally Posted by MrMetabolism
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10-03-2014, 10:24 PM #16feelin like im lookin ;)
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He LOOKS smaller because hes fatter. Even then he may be slightly smaller in the offseason but hes obviously one of "gifted" responders I alluded too
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Discussion of illegal substances is agains the rules on these forums that's why I said supplementsOriginally Posted by MrMetabolism
And yes they take some certain supplements year around but they also add more into their contest prep to help them grow and burn fat simultaneously . And yes they he does add a significant amount of mass during contest prep.
I could explain in detail but I'd get bannedyou mad because i'm right?
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10-03-2014, 10:34 PM #18feelin like im lookin ;)
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My point was there are NOT "certain" supplements that do both. Steroids are steroids.Originally Posted by hzx
And NO he does NOT add a significant amount of mass during his prep.
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It is OBVIOUS to anyone but the novice fans, that the more open his mouth and eyes are, the better he looks.Originally Posted by Deano87
Significantly smaller in the offseason
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inb4 mrMetabolism ban
i'd get rid of the s word in ur postsWorkout Log
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Why do you get banned for saying steroids? If so, that is hilariously ironic.Originally Posted by B-Neva
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Because bb.com is a platform to sell snakeoil.Originally Posted by TropicalSunset
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Yes there is, and yes he does.Originally Posted by MrMetabolism
Pls don't try to give knowledge in something you have no idea aboutyou mad because i'm right?
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10-03-2014, 11:32 PM #24BRB Shredding
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ITT: Mr. Metabolism has absolutely no idea
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10-04-2014, 05:16 AM #25Not even my final form
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Originally Posted by Deano87
Significantly smaller in the offseason
Anybody who thinks off season Phil only looks smaller because he's fatter are dead wrong. He has less mass in the off season, period.'People are gonna remember me as a god forever... Like-like-like Troy, like Chiles heel, I'm a god forever I'll be remembered for thousands of years to come' - Jason Genova
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10-04-2014, 05:50 AM #26feelin like im lookin ;)
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U guys are right, its not like i...
A) live in Denver and train at armbrust
B) have coached national level competitors who've "grown" into their shows
C) have seen Phil guest pose in the offseason numerous times
March 2013
March 2014
Oh wait, yes I have. You foreigners sure get your panties in a bunch w regards to Phil.
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Oh boy, how wrong you are... This is why they call it the "holy grail".Originally Posted by MrMetabolism
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Because of something that begins with the letter T.
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you mad because i'm right?
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This would be quit common with amateur bodybuilders, who have side-jobs and cant dedicate their whole time solely to bodybuilding.I have a friend who worked as welder, and does bodybuilding and regularly competes at NPC. He would literally grow into the show. Because during the off season he would hit the gym twice a week maybe even twice a month. But during 2 month before tournament he would hit the gym 6 times a week and would rigorously follow a diet. So indeed he would be big during the show. I am not sure weather this is possible with pro's though
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