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08-18-2014, 05:19 PM #61
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08-18-2014, 05:25 PM #62
If minimum wage workers make too much money, then we will live in a system that breeds laziness and stupidity.
Hell, we already see this happening, but it is being done through media and libertarian idealism (i dont say this to imply that republican/democrat is better... yes i know what libertarian means but stop ****ing talking about democrat/republican when the real issue is with the american peoples' way of thinking). If you also add to this fire the reassurance that society will keep you living comfortably no matter what and the politians will continue to find ways to open more low level jobs...
well lets just say that the same people who say that OP had a hard life and deserves better will be the same ones whining about how ****ed up America has gotten over the past 20 years.
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08-18-2014, 05:26 PM #63
And I make 4x what you make based on what OP posted, dead srs and no e-stats. What's your point? If OP doesn't like his job then he is more than welcome to find another job. That's what's great about capitalism. If he didn't want to do the job he wouldn't have joined. I did some seriously back breaking work when I was young that puts what I do today to shame, yet I earned 3.35/hr for it. I'm an older brah, but that was still **** wages. Did I complain? No. Did I find another path to better myself? Yes
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08-18-2014, 05:28 PM #64
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08-18-2014, 05:34 PM #66
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Masters is Engineering obviously not Economics, if there was a higher demand for unskilled labor and less supply, than you would have higher wages. But its not that way, these jobs are not meant to be Careers. Grocery stores operate on the thinnest of profit margin of almost any business like 2-4% there is no room 15 dollar hour wages. You liberals just don't get it do you.
Slapping a 15 dollar min wage, does two things, increases inflation and makes business cut cost IE jobs, you think 20 dollar min wage buys you as much as $9.25 in the states? It doesn't just had a recent trip to switzerland paid 18 Swiss Franks for a meal at Mc Donalds.
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08-18-2014, 05:40 PM #67
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08-18-2014, 05:42 PM #68
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08-18-2014, 05:43 PM #69
why'd you grab that policeman's butt
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08-18-2014, 06:17 PM #70
Not just Grocery stores, Wal-Mart for example has had a profit margin of 3.3% in the trailing twelve months. They have to keep some of that money in the bank in case unexpected expenses were to happen, they have dividends to pay, maybe they wanna expand by acquiring a competitor or by building new stores.
People hear that WM made 476B last year and assume they could easily double wages and they're greedy for not doing so, which is false.
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08-18-2014, 06:46 PM #71
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08-18-2014, 06:51 PM #72
No. This is after everything, including mgmt salaries. If they cut mgmt salaries down to industry standard, then walmart could afford to increase wage for workers. mgmt there is lazy, not educated, and don't shoulder any workload in some cases. supervisors and full time employees there are the pillars of walmart and are paid peanuts.
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08-18-2014, 07:17 PM #73
Store managers make more or less 115K, there is like 250 employees per store. Let's say the industry standard for store manager is 70K (I have not clue), that's 45k to distribute between 250 people, so 180$ more per employees, hardly a difference maker.
If you're were talking about the CEO, board of directors, executives etc. those guys are paid mostly via stock options, more than 50% of walmart stock is held by insiders, though I would agree with you that these guys are grossly overpaid.
But even if you cut their salaries by a lot and redistribute it equally between every walmart employees, the salary raise would be marginal at best.
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08-18-2014, 07:29 PM #74
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08-18-2014, 08:28 PM #76
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Getting paid 9.25/hr for his job without the complications is fair enough, with the problems arising from understaffing I don't think it is. The homogeneity of careers these days makes most people's jobs worthless. You're either doing some computer job which anyone on here could learn in a week or two or you're telling people what to do.
If you're just sitting there at a computer all day and aren't producing anything, be that physically or creatively, then your job is worthless and lying about it makes you worth less.
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08-18-2014, 08:34 PM #77
aw fuk
made a few bucks and it was a really good location. like a 15min drive from home. if you told me back in '09 that i was going to be working there until i was 22 i don't know what i'd say.
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08-18-2014, 08:49 PM #78
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08-18-2014, 09:00 PM #79
Store managers make 100k, plus 100k minimum in bonuses typically 1% in profits so more than that
2 Comanagers make 60-80k each, plus bonuses
Ass Managers make 45k (around 8-12 of them) plus bonuses
These are all starting salaries.
Aside from store managers, it's a lot of money for no work, no education, no skill.
Store I used to work for would make 110 mil in sales, and over 10 mil in profit, so a bit more than 3% margin. And you wouldn't tribute's it among all 250, just the full timers, supervisors, etc.
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08-18-2014, 09:02 PM #80
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08-18-2014, 09:13 PM #84
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08-18-2014, 09:28 PM #85
Just lol at anyone thinking working at a grocery store is a hard job
Are there really no skilled tradesmen on the misc? My job is 10x as hard but I am amply compensated for it will be making >100k in two years after my last intake for school and thats not including overtimeOne day scientists are going to kill us all.
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08-18-2014, 09:28 PM #86
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08-18-2014, 10:11 PM #87
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08-18-2014, 10:16 PM #88
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08-19-2014, 09:08 AM #89
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I make it about you because OP doesn't deserve it. He wasn't getting paid enough to do what he felt his labor was worth so he left. Here in America, we can do chit like that. GJDM to OP, that is how one succeeds in life.
On the other hand, you're blinded by top lines of large corporations and somehow think they owe something beyond the agreed upon wage an employee decided he was worth at one point. Well, enough so to take the job, right? Grocery stores have STUPIDLY small margins, ridiculous overhead, unbelievable amounts of spoilage and have labor unions of lazy, comfortable employees up their asses about people like you who think that wages should be commensurate with how long one's worked a position, not how skilled the labor is nor the value added/indispensability of this position. Not greedy, not am i exploiting anyone. I happened to value the fact that i live in a place where i am free to change my career/lifestyle if I'm unhappy with it. *******s like you would rather than hold up a picket sign out front Vons demanding $20/hr for baggin groceries.I had a wife once but she ran away with a gypsy. My heart was not ripped out but she did steal my cuckoo clock.
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08-19-2014, 09:14 AM #90
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