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    Originally Posted by hahamath View Post
    What you call exploitation and greed I call business. I'm sorry if OP can't find a better job but if he worked harder he would have one.

    And what the **** are you going on about "barely enough to survive on"? If I had to I could spend less than 10 dollars a day on food and feel fine. So 10 dollars an hour is DEFINITELY enough to survive on, and tha is all that working a **** tier job gives you. If you are so retarded that you are working a job that a middle school student can do; you dont deserve luxury
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    If minimum wage workers make too much money, then we will live in a system that breeds laziness and stupidity.

    Hell, we already see this happening, but it is being done through media and libertarian idealism (i dont say this to imply that republican/democrat is better... yes i know what libertarian means but stop ****ing talking about democrat/republican when the real issue is with the american peoples' way of thinking). If you also add to this fire the reassurance that society will keep you living comfortably no matter what and the politians will continue to find ways to open more low level jobs...

    well lets just say that the same people who say that OP had a hard life and deserves better will be the same ones whining about how ****ed up America has gotten over the past 20 years.
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    Originally Posted by BieberFeverBrah View Post
    why make this about me? Im a white collar ******* who sits behind a computer making 4x what OP makes. Im fine. Im rustled that people like OP work their asses off and get paid a wage that is barely enough to survive on. If he was working for a little mom and pop operation then I could see a reason for such bs, but he works for a chain that makes millions. This just comes down to pure exploitation and greed.
    And I make 4x what you make based on what OP posted, dead srs and no e-stats. What's your point? If OP doesn't like his job then he is more than welcome to find another job. That's what's great about capitalism. If he didn't want to do the job he wouldn't have joined. I did some seriously back breaking work when I was young that puts what I do today to shame, yet I earned 3.35/hr for it. I'm an older brah, but that was still **** wages. Did I complain? No. Did I find another path to better myself? Yes
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    **** a resignation letter i walk out on jobs that pay 9.25 an hour and i tell my boss to suck a fat dick


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    Originally Posted by hahamath View Post
    What you call exploitation and greed I call business. I'm sorry if OP can't find a better job but if he worked harder he would have one.

    And what the **** are you going on about "barely enough to survive on"? If I had to I could spend less than 10 dollars a day on food and feel fine. So 10 dollars an hour is DEFINITELY enough to survive on, and tha is all that working a **** tier job gives you. If you are so retarded that you are working a job that a middle school student can do; you dont deserve luxury
    you sound like my friends who got hooked up with jobs from their parents

    Hard work doesn't always mean a better job. You also need luck and usually connections but not always
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    Originally Posted by deathbunny View Post
    so f*cking right...

    the minimum wage jobs need people to work them, even the corrupt and "educated" rich *******s. The fact that people can barely survive, even after dedicating years of service, is way more selfish than begging for a little more ever will be. The real problem is entitled, rich *******s who inherited and sit on their wealth, or live immensely wasteful lives without contributing a f*cking thing to the world. Just because it's legal and they can get away with it, doesn't mean it's ok. If you have money, it is your duty to use it responsibly, unless you want to be a careless and selfish ******* which is typically the case.

    I'm not poverty either, I have a masters in mech engineering and make a healthy salary.
    Masters is Engineering obviously not Economics, if there was a higher demand for unskilled labor and less supply, than you would have higher wages. But its not that way, these jobs are not meant to be Careers. Grocery stores operate on the thinnest of profit margin of almost any business like 2-4% there is no room 15 dollar hour wages. You liberals just don't get it do you.

    Slapping a 15 dollar min wage, does two things, increases inflation and makes business cut cost IE jobs, you think 20 dollar min wage buys you as much as $9.25 in the states? It doesn't just had a recent trip to switzerland paid 18 Swiss Franks for a meal at Mc Donalds.
    http://www.mcdonalds.ch/de/menuekart.../big-macr-menu

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    Originally Posted by Krunk Fu View Post
    A letter for a minimum wage job? not sure if srs lol
    Why is this apparently a stupid thing to do?

    I've been there for 5 years. Gonna leave a simple not saying so and so will be my last day, sign it, and aw fuk bye.
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    Originally Posted by ClaudeGiroux View Post
    Why is this apparently a stupid thing to do?

    I've been there for 5 years. Gonna leave a simple not saying so and so will be my last day, sign it, and aw fuk bye.
    how did you stay there for 5 years is the real question

    you've gained nothing, that's a drones job.
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    why'd you grab that policeman's butt

    o wait, it's OP
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    Originally Posted by 21infantry View Post
    Grocery stores operate on the thinnest of profit margin of almost any business like 2-4% there is no room 15 dollar hour wages.
    Not just Grocery stores, Wal-Mart for example has had a profit margin of 3.3% in the trailing twelve months. They have to keep some of that money in the bank in case unexpected expenses were to happen, they have dividends to pay, maybe they wanna expand by acquiring a competitor or by building new stores.

    People hear that WM made 476B last year and assume they could easily double wages and they're greedy for not doing so, which is false.
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    Originally Posted by brotein1992 View Post
    you sound like my friends who got hooked up with jobs from their parents

    Hard work doesn't always mean a better job. You also need luck and usually connections but not always
    Lol at luck. You need to work hard AND smart. Hard work alone won't always get it done.
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    Originally Posted by hulk4 View Post
    Not just Grocery stores, Wal-Mart for example has had a profit margin of 3.3% in the trailing twelve months. They have to keep some of that money in the bank in case unexpected expenses were to happen, they have dividends to pay, maybe they wanna expand by acquiring a competitor or by building new stores.

    People hear that WM made 476B last year and assume they could easily double wages and they're greedy for not doing so, which is false.
    No. This is after everything, including mgmt salaries. If they cut mgmt salaries down to industry standard, then walmart could afford to increase wage for workers. mgmt there is lazy, not educated, and don't shoulder any workload in some cases. supervisors and full time employees there are the pillars of walmart and are paid peanuts.
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    Originally Posted by DaPlasurNDaPain View Post
    No. This is after everything, including mgmt salaries. If they cut mgmt salaries down to industry standard, then walmart could afford to increase wage for workers. mgmt there is lazy, not educated, and don't shoulder any workload in some cases. supervisors and full time employees there are the pillars of walmart and are paid peanuts.
    Store managers make more or less 115K, there is like 250 employees per store. Let's say the industry standard for store manager is 70K (I have not clue), that's 45k to distribute between 250 people, so 180$ more per employees, hardly a difference maker.

    If you're were talking about the CEO, board of directors, executives etc. those guys are paid mostly via stock options, more than 50% of walmart stock is held by insiders, though I would agree with you that these guys are grossly overpaid.

    But even if you cut their salaries by a lot and redistribute it equally between every walmart employees, the salary raise would be marginal at best.
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    Originally Posted by DaPlasurNDaPain View Post
    No. This is after everything, including mgmt salaries. If they cut mgmt salaries down to industry standard, then walmart could afford to increase wage for workers. mgmt there is lazy, not educated, and don't shoulder any workload in some cases. supervisors and full time employees there are the pillars of walmart and are paid peanuts.
    Then they can find another job.
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    Getting paid 9.25/hr for his job without the complications is fair enough, with the problems arising from understaffing I don't think it is. The homogeneity of careers these days makes most people's jobs worthless. You're either doing some computer job which anyone on here could learn in a week or two or you're telling people what to do.

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    Originally Posted by nn586 View Post
    **** a resignation letter i walk out on jobs that pay 9.25 an hour and i tell my boss to suck a fat dick


    then i do this

    aw fuk

    Originally Posted by nn586 View Post
    how did you stay there for 5 years is the real question

    you've gained nothing, that's a drones job.
    made a few bucks and it was a really good location. like a 15min drive from home. if you told me back in '09 that i was going to be working there until i was 22 i don't know what i'd say.


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    Lol at luck. You need to work hard AND smart. Hard work alone won't always get it done.
    Agree on the smart part. If that was in the post I commented on I missed it. connections do generally play a large role in my opinion. The cocky guys I know when it comes to jobs are the ones who had it handed to them. The guys who worked there ass off to climb the ladder have always been humble
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    Originally Posted by hulk4 View Post
    Store managers make more or less 115K, there is like 250 employees per store. Let's say the industry standard for store manager is 70K (I have not clue), that's 45k to distribute between 250 people, so 180$ more per employees, hardly a difference maker.

    If you're were talking about the CEO, board of directors, executives etc. those guys are paid mostly via stock options, more than 50% of walmart stock is held by insiders, though I would agree with you that these guys are grossly overpaid.

    But even if you cut their salaries by a lot and redistribute it equally between every walmart employees, the salary raise would be marginal at best.
    Store managers make 100k, plus 100k minimum in bonuses typically 1% in profits so more than that
    2 Comanagers make 60-80k each, plus bonuses
    Ass Managers make 45k (around 8-12 of them) plus bonuses
    These are all starting salaries.

    Aside from store managers, it's a lot of money for no work, no education, no skill.

    Store I used to work for would make 110 mil in sales, and over 10 mil in profit, so a bit more than 3% margin. And you wouldn't tribute's it among all 250, just the full timers, supervisors, etc.
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    my store director/store manager, whatever you wanna call it makes about 70-80K

    the next level below that is an assistant store director and they make about 40-60K
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    You did that job for 5 years jesus

    Dude there are easier ways to make a buck
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    Originally Posted by GravityLee View Post
    You did that job for 5 years jesus

    Dude there are easier ways to make a buck
    im not gay but $20 is $20
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    did you work at Smart and Final?
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    Originally Posted by Squeeks View Post
    did you work at Smart and Final?
    unaware of what that is
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    Just lol at anyone thinking working at a grocery store is a hard job

    Are there really no skilled tradesmen on the misc? My job is 10x as hard but I am amply compensated for it will be making >100k in two years after my last intake for school and thats not including overtime
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    Originally Posted by ClaudeGiroux View Post
    It definitely helps you get in better shape but after 5 years it becomes taxing. A couple of 17 year olds should be doing my job...
    your 21...

    wait until you 31 or 41... you better find a nice and easy desk job to be able to misc all day...
    cause son, I got sum bad news
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    Originally Posted by illTRON View Post
    your 21...

    wait until you 31 or 41... you better find a nice and easy desk job to be able to misc all day...
    cause son, I got sum bad news
    Soon.
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    Originally Posted by Humanoidlaws View Post
    What are you planning next?
    This. And it was the job you chose.

    Its fine to tell you boss to take his job and shove it. but you have to have a plan on what you're going to do next. Another job? College? Technical school? Military? Where do you go from here? I did all of the above.
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    Originally Posted by BieberFeverBrah View Post
    why make this about me? Im a white collar ******* who sits behind a computer making 4x what OP makes. Im fine. Im rustled that people like OP work their asses off and get paid a wage that is barely enough to survive on. If he was working for a little mom and pop operation then I could see a reason for such bs, but he works for a chain that makes millions. This just comes down to pure exploitation and greed.
    I make it about you because OP doesn't deserve it. He wasn't getting paid enough to do what he felt his labor was worth so he left. Here in America, we can do chit like that. GJDM to OP, that is how one succeeds in life.

    On the other hand, you're blinded by top lines of large corporations and somehow think they owe something beyond the agreed upon wage an employee decided he was worth at one point. Well, enough so to take the job, right? Grocery stores have STUPIDLY small margins, ridiculous overhead, unbelievable amounts of spoilage and have labor unions of lazy, comfortable employees up their asses about people like you who think that wages should be commensurate with how long one's worked a position, not how skilled the labor is nor the value added/indispensability of this position. Not greedy, not am i exploiting anyone. I happened to value the fact that i live in a place where i am free to change my career/lifestyle if I'm unhappy with it. *******s like you would rather than hold up a picket sign out front Vons demanding $20/hr for baggin groceries.
    I had a wife once but she ran away with a gypsy. My heart was not ripped out but she did steal my cuckoo clock.

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    Originally Posted by hahamath View Post
    What you call exploitation and greed I call business. I'm sorry if OP can't find a better job but if he worked harder he would have one.

    And what the **** are you going on about "barely enough to survive on"? If I had to I could spend less than 10 dollars a day on food and feel fine. So 10 dollars an hour is DEFINITELY enough to survive on, and tha is all that working a **** tier job gives you. If you are so retarded that you are working a job that a middle school student can do; you dont deserve luxury
    Originally Posted by TheCore84 View Post
    Strong reality. Fuarck I feel like we're explaining the real world to spoiled teenagers sometimes.
    Originally Posted by MikeATL View Post
    And I make 4x what you make based on what OP posted, dead srs and no e-stats. What's your point? If OP doesn't like his job then he is more than welcome to find another job. That's what's great about capitalism. If he didn't want to do the job he wouldn't have joined. I did some seriously back breaking work when I was young that puts what I do today to shame, yet I earned 3.35/hr for it. I'm an older brah, but that was still **** wages. Did I complain? No. Did I find another path to better myself? Yes
    Repped with measlies.
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