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[BodyBuilda1]

I'm going to get absolutely destroyed for this comment but here it goes.



I really feel like Ramy will never amount to anything more than a decent competitor in the Olympia and i doubt he will ever break through to the top 3. He has the mass (we all know that), but he is basically a modern day Greg Kovacs. He will always be a monster, but thats simply not good enough. Don't get me wrong, he has one of the freakiest physiques i have seen. However, he cannot come in conditioned enough. Notice i said cannot. It's not a matter of time, simply he can't do it. He has had the opportunity but it never happens. People have their positives and negatives and this will always be a major factor in what is holding Ramy back. I laugh when people suggest he hasn't been conditioned because Dennis is trying to bring him in big. Also, if you look at his physique he lacks muscle separation immensely. Yeah, his quads are the size of trains but he has little separation compared to the top placing pros. You will all laugh at me. But mark my words, Ramy will not cross 3rd place in this Olympia, or any Olympia for that matter.

[bartosh]

I'm going to get absolutely destroyed for this comment but here it goes.



I really feel like Ramy will never amount to anything more than a decent competitor in the Olympia and i doubt he will ever break through to the top 3. He has the mass (we all know that), but he is basically a modern day Greg Kovacs. He will always be a monster, but thats simply not good enough. Don't get me wrong, he has one of the freakiest physiques i have seen. However, he cannot come in conditioned enough. Notice i said cannot. It's not a matter of time, simply he can't do it. He has had the opportunity but it never happens. People have their positives and negatives and this will always be a major factor in what is holding Ramy back. I laugh when people suggest he hasn't been conditioned because Dennis is trying to bring him in big. Also, if you look at his physique he lacks muscle separation immensely. Yeah, his quads are the size of trains but he has little separation compared to the top placing pros. You will all laugh at me. But mark my words, Ramy will not cross 3rd place in this Olympia, or any Olympia for that matter.

do you think certain people are physically incapable reaching low enough bodyfat levels?

[BodyBuilda1]

do you think certain people are physically incapable reaching low enough bodyfat levels?

Honestly, i would be guessing if i answered that question. But when i look at other competitors who have been successful near 300lbs (Dorian and Ronnie), there is a distinct difference between the physiques. Now granted, I'm comparing Ramy to 2 bodybuilders who are arguably the best ever, but still. When you look at him, you don't see the crazy muscle separation, density, vascularity, and other things that push you into the top placings of the Olympia.

I see Ramy and he is feat of nature. His Bodyfat levels always seem as low as the next guy on stage. Yet, he doesn't obtain the separation or vascularity mentioned earlier.

I could compare it to Jay Cutler. No matter how low Jay's body fat got, he never had crazy vascularity. Even in 09. However, he did have some of the best detail out there.

[Deano87]

I'm going to get absolutely destroyed for this comment but here it goes.



I really feel like Ramy will never amount to anything more than a decent competitor in the Olympia and i doubt he will ever break through to the top 3. He has the mass (we all know that), but he is basically a modern day Greg Kovacs. He will always be a monster, but thats simply not good enough. Don't get me wrong, he has one of the freakiest physiques i have seen. However, he cannot come in conditioned enough. Notice i said cannot. It's not a matter of time, simply he can't do it. He has had the opportunity but it never happens. People have their positives and negatives and this will always be a major factor in what is holding Ramy back. I laugh when people suggest he hasn't been conditioned because Dennis is trying to bring him in big. Also, if you look at his physique he lacks muscle separation immensely. Yeah, his quads are the size of trains but he has little separation compared to the top placing pros. You will all laugh at me. But mark my words, Ramy will not cross 3rd place in this Olympia, or any Olympia for that matter.

I somewhat agree

[ragnar1199]

However, he cannot come in conditioned enough. Notice i said cannot. It's not a matter of time, simply he can't do it. He has had the opportunity but it never happens.

To say that Ramy or any pro bodybuilder will never come in conditioned is simply not a fact. He could compete for another 10 years or more. We have no way of knowing what will happen over the years. I think any bodybuilder has the capability to come in shredded, its just a matter of figuring out exactly what needs to be done, and it ain't easy.

[flangmasterj]

However, he cannot come in conditioned enough. Notice i said cannot. It's not a matter of time, simply he can't do it.

We have our very own oracle in here.

Also "basically a modern day Kovacs"? Ramy is the complete opposite because he actually looks amazing.

[BodyBuilda1]

To say that Ramy or any pro bodybuilder will never come in conditioned is simply not a fact. He could compete for another 10 years or more. We have no way of knowing what will happen over the years. I think any bodybuilder has the capability to come in shredded, its just a matter of figuring out exactly what needs to be done, and it ain't easy.

I understand what your saying and it makes sense. It really does. Anything IS possible.

Nonetheless, in time you will see that Ramy will never come in conditioned as the top placers do. When he consistently never breaks the top 3 spots year after year, maybe i won't be the only one preaching this.

[FAN0FdaSport]

I'm going to get absolutely destroyed for this comment but here it goes.



I really feel like Ramy will never amount to anything more than a decent competitor in the Olympia and i doubt he will ever break through to the top 3. He has the mass (we all know that), but he is basically a modern day Greg Kovacs. He will always be a monster, but thats simply not good enough. Don't get me wrong, he has one of the freakiest physiques i have seen. However, he cannot come in conditioned enough. Notice i said cannot. It's not a matter of time, simply he can't do it. He has had the opportunity but it never happens. People have their positives and negatives and this will always be a major factor in what is holding Ramy back. I laugh when people suggest he hasn't been conditioned because Dennis is trying to bring him in big. Also, if you look at his physique he lacks muscle separation immensely. Yeah, his quads are the size of trains but he has little separation compared to the top placing pros. You will all laugh at me. But mark my words, Ramy will not cross 3rd place in this Olympia, or any Olympia for that matter.

hi mr red

was the only contest greg kovacs ever lost the mr Olympia in 8th place?

[AniMaLizTik]

FFS - even Ronnie AND Jay said "guys like Ramy" are the future of bodybuilding. Its just a matter of time before he begins his Mr Olympia reign.

[stealth_swimmer]

To be fair,

"Edema (American English) or oedema (British English)"

This, I'm from 'Merica, and here we spell it "edema"

[BodyBuilda1]

Again, for all the bashing i'm getting..its a shame we have to wait so long to find out what is going to happen.

[RockyTheKid]

Nonetheless, in time you will see that Ramy will never come in conditioned as the top placers do. When he consistently never breaks the top 3 spots year after year, maybe i won't be the only one preaching this.

How can you say he'll never break the Top 3 consistently, when he's about to compete for only the 2nd time at the O?

You know how long it took Ronnie to crack Top 3?

[RoroCwalker]

How can you say he'll never break the Top 3 consistently, when he's about to compete for only the 2nd time at the O?

You know how long it took Ronnie to crack Top 3?

This.

BodyBuilda1's statement is pre-mature, considering the fact that he said "cannot".

[AniMaLizTik]

This.

BodyBuilda1's statement is pre-mature, considering the fact that he said "cannot".

For real, I mean Ramy was like a gym rat at 190lbs in 2010 - 4 years later hes a legitimate contender. That I know of, in that time frame, that has never happened. Dude is a unicorn.

[weltweitefurcht]

Again, for all the bashing i'm getting..its a shame we have to wait so long to find out what is going to happen.

I won't bash you, it is your opinion and that is fine.. but I just don't agree.

We really have no way of knowing what type of condition he can achieve. He hasn't even done enough contests yet for us to form a pattern or prediction on him. We know he has genetics to build and maintain a lot of muscle for one. That's about it.

I bet he hasn't tried that many conditioning methods so the possibility of success is still very much in his favor. It is a total learning process for some.

Personally I think he will figure it out at some point. There are just so many different ways to skin a cat.

[RockyTheKid]

For real, I mean Ramy was like a gym rat at 190lbs in 2010 - 4 years later hes a legitimate contender. That I know of, in that time frame, that has never happened. Dude is a unicorn.

Didn't Phil have a rise similar to Ramy's?

[bartosh]

Honestly, i would be guessing if i answered that question. But when i look at other competitors who have been successful near 300lbs (Dorian and Ronnie), there is a distinct difference between the physiques. Now granted, I'm comparing Ramy to 2 bodybuilders who are arguably the best ever, but still. When you look at him, you don't see the crazy muscle separation, density, vascularity, and other things that push you into the top placings of the Olympia.

I see Ramy and he is feat of nature. His Bodyfat levels always seem as low as the next guy on stage. Yet, he doesn't obtain the separation or vascularity mentioned earlier.

I could compare it to Jay Cutler. No matter how low Jay's body fat got, he never had crazy vascularity. Even in 09. However, he did have some of the best detail out there.

Dorian never competed near 300 iirc

The thing is we have never seen ramy with striations in his glutes like phil. He never reached THAT level of conditioning. If he does, he will have much much more detail. I believe he can reach that conditioning. He has the size. Now he should focus on bringing the overall package, whoch is doable. He has all the time in the world to figure it out
Edit: nobody is really bashing you. We just disagree and explained why

[BodyBuilda1]

I see what you guys are saying and i am being arrogant. I just can't get past his conditioning.


But really, in all honesty you guys are right. He very well may crack the top 3. Sometimes i get to arrogant talking about bodybuilding haha.

Now if you were to tell me he would place top 3 this year...


haha

[RoroCwalker]

you guessed it, another session of cardio as we close out our day of training. You know.. Today was a good day. We strive to make everyday just as good.

It's funny how things pop into your mind later down the road of this journey we call life. We were shooting a workout video today at @bevsgym for @flex_magazine... I remembered a time when I was just starting in the game of what we call bodybuilding.. and all the greats before me were training at my local gym.. with all the lights.. camera's.. and spectators just watching as I said to myself... One day that's going to be me!! and when that day comes I'm going to train with everyone and anyone.. I remember that moment today when I came across and met a new friend today and a supporter of what makes what we do possible. "Hey man I said.. What are you training today. My new friend replied from a distance.. shoulders he said.. good news.. Me too... Would you like to train with me.. Yes!! he replied.. and so it went.. A great shoulder workout. #LetsWork. #OLYMPIA #50thOlympia @musclemeds @flex_magazine #DontForgetWhereYouCameFrom - Kai



An IFBB pro inviting someone to train with them, hhnngggg.

[RepItOut]

Phil Heath on the Benefits of Massage For GAINZ and Recovery THREE WEEKS OUT From Mr. Olympia

6:39 minutes of talking **** and promotion whilst half being on camera... may aswell not even have bothered... Would of rathered your usual 1min 10 sec clip with 5 seconds of training..


Kulclo Looks amazing.. hope he does well..

[B-Neva]

I'd crap my pants if Kai asked me to train with him

[SammyJr]

damn, kai is the man. he deserves the mr O

[AniMaLizTik]

Didn't Phil have a rise similar to Ramy's?

Phil went from turning pro to taking 3rd at the Olympia in 3 years, but has been competing since 2003.

Ramy's first amateur show was in 2010.


2003 Northern Colorado State, Novice, Light-Heavyweight 1st and overall
2003 NPC Colorado State, Light-Heavyweight, 1st
2004 NPC Colorado State, Heavyweight, 1st and Overall
2005 NPC Junior Nationals, HeavyWeight, 1st and Overall
2005 NPC USA Championships, HeavyWeight, 1st and Overall
2006 Colorado Pro Championships, 1st
2006 New York Pro Championship, 1st
2007 Arnold Classic, 5th
2008 IFBB Iron Man, 1st
2008 Arnold Classic, 2nd
2008 Mr. Olympia, 3rd
2009 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2010 Arnold Classic, 2nd
2010 Mr. Olympia, 2nd
2011 Mr. Olympia, 1st
2011 Sheru Classic, 1st
2012 Mr. Olympia, 1st
2012 Sheru Classic, 1st
2013 Mr. Olympia, 1st
2013 Arnold Classic Europe, 1st

[RoroCwalker]

Video posted 3 days ago;

[TropicalSunset]

I see what you guys are saying and i am being arrogant. I just can't get past his conditioning.


But really, in all honesty you guys are right. He very well may crack the top 3. Sometimes i get to arrogant talking about bodybuilding haha.

Now if you were to tell me he would place top 3 this year...


haha

Good to see you admit you might have rushed it a bit there. The guy has only competed in two contests other than last year at the Olympia and won both cleanly. While his conditioning hasn't been out of this world, give the guy some time. He is the most impressive up and comer in a LONG time.

[Harmike]

Jose looking pretty crazy

Got that Gaspari shred. Absurd.

[bartosh]

Video posted 3 days ago;

wowzers the broscience is killing me

unless massages really help you display more separation. then i learned something new today

[TheIronAsylum]

For real, I mean Ramy was like a gym rat at 190lbs in 2010 - 4 years later hes a legitimate contender. That I know of, in that time frame, that has never happened. Dude is a unicorn.

its that Arab pre workout or whatever they feed em over there

[TheIronAsylum]

you guessed it, another session of cardio as we close out our day of training. You know.. Today was a good day. We strive to make everyday just as good.

It's funny how things pop into your mind later down the road of this journey we call life. We were shooting a workout video today at @bevsgym for @flex_magazine... I remembered a time when I was just starting in the game of what we call bodybuilding.. and all the greats before me were training at my local gym.. with all the lights.. camera's.. and spectators just watching as I said to myself... One day that's going to be me!! and when that day comes I'm going to train with everyone and anyone.. I remember that moment today when I came across and met a new friend today and a supporter of what makes what we do possible. "Hey man I said.. What are you training today. My new friend replied from a distance.. shoulders he said.. good news.. Me too... Would you like to train with me.. Yes!! he replied.. and so it went.. A great shoulder workout. #LetsWork. #OLYMPIA #50thOlympia @musclemeds @flex_magazine #DontForgetWhereYouCameFrom - Kai



An IFBB pro inviting someone to train with them, hhnngggg.

that would be the schit but only chance thatl happen is if i run into one of the pros olympia weekend in vegas and none of them will want to train with someone as the comp will be going on and all the photoshoots

[TropicalSunset]

wowzers the broscience is killing me

unless massages really help you display more separation. then i learned something new today

They help.....oh yeah....they do...especially when your wife owns the salon. Lol.