Mock meet 6 weeks out from Raw Nats: 1740 total at 209 lbs

[SPFjudge]

That last pull was awesome!

He still had all his water in him.

[LessThanLuke]

yea, hell what do I know? not like I studied this stuff in grad school or anything LOL

Studied it at grad school and still thinks losing 4lbs of water will have a significant negative effect... smh

[zmcdole]

Studied it at grad school and still thinks losing 4lbs of water will have a significant negative effect... smh

the issue is re-seating all that water. If he's on the platform in 2 hours or less from weigh ins, chugging a gallon of Gatorade isn't gonna help that much. Having the water back in your gut is a lot different from having it in your muscle. If he's losing subcutaneous water then yeah, he'll be ok. Layne is pretty lean and doesn't have a ton of fluff and he's probably not carrying a lot of extra water.

[LessThanLuke]

the issue is re-seating all that water. If he's on the platform in 2 hours or less from weigh ins, chugging a gallon of Gatorade isn't gonna help that much. Having the water back in your gut is a lot different from having it in your muscle. If he's losing subcutaneous water then yeah, he'll be ok. Layne is pretty lean and doesn't have a ton of fluff and he's probably not carrying a lot of extra water.

I don't disagree with this but he said it as a generalisation for everyone. The vast majority of people will drop 4lbs with zero negative effects what so ever.

[dannyautrey]

All of those people left weight on the platform. Probably 4% or more of their totals.

[LessThanLuke]

All of those people left weight on the platform. Probably 4% or more of their totals.

****ing lol./

[str8flexed]

Studied it at grad school and still thinks losing 4lbs of water will have a significant negative effect... smh

at a 24 hour weigh in? of course not

at a 4 hour weigh in? possibly. Also, I've been to USAPL meets, though it says 2 hour weigh in... often you weigh in and 10-20 minutes later you are already warming up to lift. All I'm doing is being cautious and prepared. Apparently this makes me stupid

[NorthStrong]

Just listened to the new powercast with you on, good stuff Layne.

[str8flexed]

thank you!

[GourleyMan]

Good luck against Norris (amongst others)!

[SPFjudge]

at a 24 hour weigh in? of course not

at a 4 hour weigh in? possibly. Also, I've been to USAPL meets, though it says 2 hour weigh in... often you weigh in and 10-20 minutes later you are already warming up to lift. All I'm doing is being cautious and prepared. Apparently this makes me stupid

Dude you can water load 4 lbs so easy. You literally the same weight as you started before you hit the platform. If you are 209lbs 1 week out, you water load, weigh in at 205, drink, weigh 209 on the platform. Its been done by the most elite powerlifters on the planet for years. Yes I'm talking IPF 2 hour weigh in guys. All it is is water manipulation. 2 gals a day for a few days then dropping to less than half for the day before the meet. If you think that's going to have a significant affect on performance, then yes, I'm you are stupid.

Don't tell me about what you studied in school either. I have a master's in science in Agriculture and when I am out working with ag issues I can promise you the farmer with experience knows more than I do.

[jdude94]

Don't tell me about what you studied in school either. I have a master's in science in Agriculture and when I am out working with ag issues I can promise you the farmer with experience knows more than I do.

I see this with personal trainers at uni that know it all because they studied it and then there are powerlifters on the team that give you a better strength program.

"Knowledge without mileage is bull**** to me" -Henry Rollins. I love this quote.

[JohnnyRingo350]

Good luck against Norris (amongst others)!

Everyone will need more than luck. Norris is the best.

[BombDonald]

Everyone will need more than luck. Norris is the best.

Is Norris going to be there?

[JohnnyRingo350]

Is Norris going to be there?

I thought there was a thread talking about him not being able to do worlds, because of RUM so he was doing USAPL nats.

[mtb4life95]

strong as fuk. when will it be my turn.

[str8flexed]

I see this with personal trainers at uni that know it all because they studied it and then there are powerlifters on the team that give you a better strength program.

"Knowledge without mileage is bull**** to me" -Henry Rollins. I love this quote.

yea... because I don't have any experience lifting heavy weights or doing meets. Logic... not even once

[anti-steroids]

strong dude..

[str8flexed]

Dude you can water load 4 lbs so easy. You literally the same weight as you started before you hit the platform. If you are 209lbs 1 week out, you water load, weigh in at 205, drink, weigh 209 on the platform. Its been done by the most elite powerlifters on the planet for years. Yes I'm talking IPF 2 hour weigh in guys. All it is is water manipulation. 2 gals a day for a few days then dropping to less than half for the day before the meet. If you think that's going to have a significant affect on performance, then yes, I'm you are stupid.

Don't tell me about what you studied in school either. I have a master's in science in Agriculture and when I am out working with ag issues I can promise you the farmer with experience knows more than I do.

There is a difference in short term fluid dynamics/where that is stored short term vs. long term. Just chugging 4 gallons of water does not immediately put that fluid back into the tissues where it normally would have been. I'm not sure why you are being so aggressive and obstinate about this. All I said was I'm being careful, trying to do things correctly. You seem to act like I punched your mom or something.

[dannyautrey]

There is a difference in short term fluid dynamics/where that is stored short term vs. long term. Just chugging 4 gallons of water does not immediately put that fluid back into the tissues where it normally would have been. I'm not sure why you are being so aggressive and obstinate about this. All I said was I'm being careful, trying to do things correctly. You seem to act like I punched your mom or something.

You need to calm down sir. Perhaps you should have a drink...

[invain]

yea, hell what do I know? not like I studied this stuff in grad school or anything LOL

There is no need to talk down, I have the same undergrad degree as you. I know you have a PhD, but I'm speaking from experience cutting weight, which I'm assuming you should have as well. You of all people should know there's a pretty big difference between 'studying' something and actually experiencing it. Obviously cutting something like 10% of your bodyweight for a 2 hour weigh in is going to have an effect, but we're not talking about 10 - 15 pounds here. It's 4 pounds.

[BigLarge]

There is a difference in short term fluid dynamics/where that is stored short term vs. long term. Just chugging 4 gallons of water does not immediately put that fluid back into the tissues where it normally would have been.

I know what this feels like.... cut 16lbs... drank 4 gallons after weigh ins of water/gatorade in a 24hr period... only put 12lbs back on

[SPFjudge]

I thought there was a thread talking about him not being able to do worlds, because of RUM so he was doing USAPL nats.

Even if he were to do worlds he would have to qualify at nats.

[Big Sexy J]

Great job Layne...looking forward to your results.

Do what you want to do, who cares what some fat guy from the SPF says.

[Smashiin]

Great job Layne...looking forward to your results.

Do what you want to do, who cares what some fat guy from the SPF says.

key word, SPF

[str8flexed]

There is no need to talk down, I have the same undergrad degree as you. I know you have a PhD, but I'm speaking from experience cutting weight, which I'm assuming you should have as well. You of all people should know there's a pretty big difference between 'studying' something and actually experiencing it. Obviously cutting something like 10% of your bodyweight for a 2 hour weigh in is going to have an effect, but we're not talking about 10 - 15 pounds here. It's 4 pounds.

Yes I do have experience & I have studied... thus my caution. But I don't think I'm going to convince you as you have your mind made up about this. So let's move on.

[mrys54]

What have you done to improve your squat technique? Any specific exercises or just more squatting?

[jdude94]

yea... because I don't have any experience lifting heavy weights or doing meets. Logic... not even once

Wasn't directed to you. Obviously you know what's going on. My apologies regardless.

[str8flexed]

What have you done to improve your squat technique? Any specific exercises or just more squatting?

more squatting