because Phil Heath said so!

[flangmasterj]

Don't worry about trying to have any type of meaningful discussion with Flang, Grogg, and Sed (the three stooges)...they think Arnold actually beat Sergio in 72...and they think they know what a proper full squat is.

Oh it's this guy. Hey guy.

[PillClinton]

Lol'd at 3 stooges

You are an interesting guy pyrolee

'Just send the link to www.snitchforphil.com, and we'll do the rest'

haha!

does seem kinda weird that they would ask other people to do the grunt work. But hey, that is less money they got to invest in hiring someone to do it. I'm sure Phil's equivalent of Jay's Mesopeaks would be happy to help

[RoroCwalker]

Lol'd at 3 stooges
You are an interesting guy pyrolee
haha!
does seem kinda weird that they would ask other people to do the grunt work. But hey, that is less money they got to invest in hiring someone to do it. I'm sure Phil's equivalent of Jay's Mesopeaks would be happy to help

You wouldn't even need to hire someone, he could do it himself.

Just type "Phil Heath training" on Youtube, and you already got a few pages of whatever he's searching for.

[stealth_swimmer]

if you're asking for my opinion about this move, i believe phil chose having more money over losing a couple of fans

can't really blame him, bodybuilding has a limited time frame where he can make good money (unless you're cutler/coleman)

expect to see a lot of good content being removed thanks to this though...

Not removed - moved to his channel and monetized so that he gets money from them. Can't say whether i agree with such a thing in all instances or not (seems kinda complicated), but it makes sense from a business standpoint.

[B-Neva]

I'm a fan of Phil but not that guy he's with lol

[sedrik]

Don't worry about trying to have any type of meaningful discussion with Flang, Grogg, and Sed (the three stooges)...they think Arnold actually beat Sergio in 72...and they think they know what a proper full squat is.

Plus they also bash on Kai because they don't understand him either...they attack what they don't understand...very typical bunch of humans, they are.

Haha oh the irony!

[0nlyProtein]

I am trying really hard to like Phil as a person, but he makes it almost impossible. BS about posting more content...he just doesn't want his stuff pirated so he can make more money.

I understand it is a job for him and how he makes his living, but something has to be given back to the fans.

Interesting to see that none of the other pros seem to be that concerned and realize that getting videos out there just gets their name out there and makes them more popular.

I guess he doesn't need the buzz as he is Mr. Olympia, but honestly, he just really hard to like personally.

A big +1 from me.

[BiggerTommorow]

I wonder about his plan with videos where its cuts of a ton of different bodybuilding videos. Is he gonna try and copywrite claim it too? Seems extremely greedy. These videos are the only way he can expand his fan base, if he keeps them all on his channel then his fan base remains with those who go to his channel already. Ohwell Phil has always rubbed me the wrong way with how he comes across.

[Ocampo82]

Have to skip to about 4 minutes for some further explanation.

[featureless]

anyone else willing to reserve judgement before anything actually happens??

Best post in here. Repped!

[stealth_swimmer]

I'm a fan of Phil but not that guy he's with lol

Really? I love the guy's vids.

[DasPhilosopher]

I hit the dislike bottom as the ad loaded then closed Youtube app.

[B-Neva]

I'm for it if he starts posting videos. I didn't even know Phil had a youtube channel lol

Really? I love the guy's vids.

He seems like he thinks he knows everything about bodybuilding.

[Superfly1]

Wont effect youtube at all... the law states any video can be posted for peer reviewing.... simply leaving a comment on a video counts as being reviewed and doesnt break copyright....

[71Avido]

does seem kinda weird that they would ask other people to do the grunt work.

It's the same thing Mike Buffer does for his stupid catch phrases.


http://www.letsrumble.com/rumblerewards.html

[jahaa]

Have to skip to about 4 minutes for some further explanation.

What hes saying is not true. No one is making money from the videos that being uploaded on youtube. Thats now how their partnership works.

[203mh]

Have to skip to about 4 minutes for some further explanation.

I'd recommend everyone watch the whole video... very good

[stealth_swimmer]

Have to skip to about 4 minutes for some further explanation.

ah, ok. Makes sense. So it's stuff that's already been copyrighted by Flexonline or other places with Phil in it, but other people are posting it on their Youtube channels *and* monetizing it.

What hes saying is not true. No one is making money from the videos that being uploaded on youtube. Thats now how their partnership works.

Pretty sure you can monetize vids so that you get money based on the number of views. Granted, it might have changed since this vid was made, but this guy explains it here. You can monetize each individual vid.

[PillClinton]

Yes, stealth thats what happens.

There was a poster here who would post competitions or footage of bodybuilding documentaries from his youtube account that would flip the video image. He would play the same music on all the videos and they would all be about 2-5 minutes.

If he is monetizing the videos that means he is making money (probably insignificant amounts) off someone else's work.

[du3ce]

I agree he owes nothing to the fans, you support him because you like him and if he can he'll give back but there should be no obligation, but he's cutting off a lot of channels of distribution, doesn't seem very smart

owes nothing to the fans? Some of those "fans"buys supps from muscletech his sponsor who is paying him.

[Unbiasedfan]

owes nothing to the fans? Some of those "fans"buys supps from muscletech his sponsor who is paying him.

They trade money for a product...how does he owe them?

[081034970]

I don't fully understand.

a) Why hasn't he been doing this from the start?
b) If he's so concerned about money, why doesn't he PAY somebody to search for him, instead of making a plea to his fans asking them for free work, then giving them nothing in return, other than a hypocritical scolding about money not making it in the right hands?


Did I misunderstand this?

[Kiwi_]

b) If he's so concerned about money, why doesn't he PAY somebody to search for him

That would cut into his Jordan™ money.

[BartPimpson]

Phil's such a petty person. When he's got getting into pointless arguments with trolls on instagram he's chasing a few dollars from Youtube vids.

Damn it man, just be thankful people are helping you promote yourself.

[DanOsman]

Phil's such a petty person. When he's got getting into pointless arguments with trolls on instagram he's chasing a few dollars from Youtube vids.

Damn it man, just be thankful people are helping you promote yourself.

This, all the way^^^^

I love his physique but come on man, nobody complains about youtube videos, not even superstars and stuff like that (which most definitely concerns way more money than bodybuilding)... just be happy you are Mr. Olympia, have a villa with a couple of Bentleys and tons of Jordans/hats.
All right?

[ROMMYromboid]

This, all the way^^^^

I love his physique but come on man, nobody complains about youtube videos, not even superstars and stuff like that (which most definitely concerns way more money than bodybuilding)... just be happy you are Mr. Olympia, have a villa with a couple of Bentleys and tons of Jordans/hats.
All right?

Not a great fan of Heath's physique but I do think there is a reason for him doing what he is doing, i can only imagine the profits on his video sales are significantly diluted by all the youtube stuff and it could get to a point where he is making the video's for nothing.

IMO it would be best for Heath's public image if he put out a media release to youtube explaining why he feels he has to take these steps, the explanation video above gives the impression Heath is hiding behind his people and also spends too much time talking about Heath talking to fans in person which comes across as damage control. If Heath fronted the global bodybuilding community and gave a straight forward and honest answer his popularity would not suffer.

TEAM ROMGLE

[tsiparlanaeht]

Phil's such a petty person. When he's got getting into pointless arguments with trolls on instagram he's chasing a few dollars from Youtube vids.

Damn it man, just be thankful people are helping you promote yourself.

In all fairness here bro I don't think you quite understand business/promotion nor copyrights/patents.


What Phil is doing is 100% correct and if you listened to Bios guy vid up there he explains it.

Bart lets say you were a poster on MD and I copied all your posts on there and posted it here on bb.com. I got reps for all your well thought out posts and your advice, not only that but people are contacting me asking me to be their online guru and I get paid by them. How would that make you feel? You would not be saying thats cool stercs is making money of my stuff...nope you'd be saying HEY wtf is going on here that's me earning that $ cause of my time!

****ty analogy but there it is.

HE is the one in the video, he has every fuking right to request that his youtube account should have the rights/royalties and in exchange we will get better quality videos.

He doesn't owe you **** yet still puts out videos, theirs plenty of bodybuilders who do not give a **** about fans and he does so does Kai/Wolf. They all go the extra mile, they are very good reps for the sport but don't kid yourself they are doing it to make money.


Also read this and come back to me and say youtube video's are nothing:

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...-maker-studios
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A2N1PV20140324

[RoroCwalker]

^
Wouldn't that be MD/Flex's job then? They have a Youtube channel as well.

[tsiparlanaeht]

^
Wouldn't that be MD/Flex's job then? They have a Youtube channel as well.

You've missed my point young panda.

[sedrik]

In all fairness here bro I don't think you quite understand business/promotion nor copyrights/patents.


What Phil is doing is 100% correct and if you listened to Bios guy vid up there he explains it.

Bart lets say you were a poster on MD and I copied all your posts on there and posted it here on bb.com. I got reps for all your well thought out posts and your advice, not only that but people are contacting me asking me to be their online guru and I get paid by them. How would that make you feel? You would not be saying thats cool stercs is making money of my stuff...nope you'd be saying HEY wtf is going on here that's me earning that $ cause of my time!

****ty analogy but there it is.

HE is the one in the video, he has every fuking right to request that his youtube account should have the rights/royalties and in exchange we will get better quality videos.

He doesn't owe you **** yet still puts out videos, theirs plenty of bodybuilders who do not give a **** about fans and he does so does Kai/Wolf. They all go the extra mile, they are very good reps for the sport but don't kid yourself they are doing it to make money.


Also read this and come back to me and say youtube video's are nothing:

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...-maker-studios
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A2N1PV20140324

Agreed with your point but, Youtube views pay very little, especially when you're operating in a niche like bodybuilding. Most of the money comes from apparel, sponsorships or in this case supplements.

That company pulled in supposedly 5 billion views a month, a feat that I doubt any bodybuilding competitor or company could ever even dream about matching, in a year. (Yes I know there are 20,000 channel in the company)