Antoine needs to DUMP John Meadows

[zdream]

I've listened to john meadows blabber on about these completely wrong nutritional points he makes during these shopping videos. Like 80% of the crap he says is completely wrong. Idk where he gets his info from but coming from someone who's studying nutrition and getting into sports dietetics in graduate school, I was appalled. Why would you make Any athlete use coconut oil 24/7? The oil with the highest saturated fat, and almost no good fats. Probably a good reason why Antoine looks fat, flat, and just overall bad. He looked way better when he got his card. These road trips probably don't help either, as you guys have said. I see a bright future for Antoine, but I think he needs em the right supporting cast and can't just mess around traveling all year because it takes a toll on your body.

The guy uses coconut oil like water. Put it in his shakes and everything :/

[Groggery]

coming from someone who's studying nutrition and getting into sports dietetics in graduate school, I was appalled. Why would you make Any athlete use coconut oil 24/7? The oil with the highest saturated fat, and almost no good fats. Probably a good reason why Antoine looks fat, flat, and just overall bad.

Coming from your average Joe with several years of digging up contradicting information, what you just said is pure bull. You must believe fat will also kill you as well, better not eat carbs after 6 PM either...

[masthead716]

Coming from your average Joe with several years of digging up contradicting information, what you just said is pure bull. You must believe fat will also kill you as well, better not eat carbs after 6 PM either...

I couldn't have said that better myself.

WARNING: Coconut oil will make you look "fat, flat, and just overall bad" - University of Potato Thesis by Txhorns23

[Chaosvash]

Coming from your average Joe with several years of digging up contradicting information, what you just said is pure bull. You must believe fat will also kill you as well, better not eat carbs after 6 PM either...

Yea saying that eating the bad fat like water is basically the same as saying all fat is bad for you right? Lets learn to comprehend what we read first shall we?

[Groggery]

Yea saying that eating the bad fat like water is basically the same as saying all fat is bad for you right? Lets learn to comprehend what we read first shall we?

If it's 2013 and you still believe saturated fat is bad for you i've got some bad news.

[youphilme]

I wouldnt blame JM for this showout, i blame Antoine. He started his Diet at roughly 20 weeks out instead of the normal 12-16 weeks and he was fairly lean to begin with. Barely had an offseason which he desperately need, nearly has the size to hang the pros. If anything, this is a BIG eye opener for him and what he needs to do.

I can picture him back in his hotel room sulking his face in his hands filled with regret but vengeance.......... he'll be back guys =]

[marzelo]

John meadows is the best

[Chaosvash]

If it's 2013 and you still believe saturated fat is bad for you i've got some bad news.

If almost almost 100% of your fat intake is saturated fat it is bad. Please provide proof to the contrary since you're so knowledgeable about nutrition.

[Groggery]

Yeah i don't really feel like posting scans of my blood tests just to prove a point.

[Chaosvash]

Yeah i don't really feel like posting scans of my blood tests just to prove a point.

Yea because that would be convincing evidence, post some science proving saturated fat is not worse than mono/poly unsat., as far as fat goes it's second only to trans fat in terms of being undesirable, it's almost impossible to have your diet consist of 100% saturated fat regardless.

[Groggery]

Mark Sisson's and Ori Hofmekler's works should be a good start for you.
Move up to Martin Berkhan when you feel like you'd rather not remain a dimwit all your life.

[Chaosvash]

Mark Sisson's and Ori Hofmekler's works should be a good start for you.
Move up to Martin Berkhan when you feel like you'd rather not remain a dimwit all your life.

You're probably right, I should read books written by some fitness trainers and such without any kind of nutrition or science degrees, in fact, since I'm such a dimwit, I'll go tell the nutrition department in my college to stop pushing stupid books on us which clearly don't compare to the advanced scientific knowledge bros like you even.

[Groggery]

You should tell the profs at your college to go pick up a dumbbell sometime too.

[kodiak6]

I heard Antoine actually abandoned JM right around the time he started prepping? Not sure if its true though

[Lvisaa2]

If almost almost 100% of your fat intake is saturated fat it is bad. Please provide proof to the contrary since you're so knowledgeable about nutrition.

If almost all your intake of any macronutrient is from a single source then it is bad. In a health conscious community, then using such extremes is neither relevant nor helpful.

[Groggery]

If almost all your intake of any macronutrient is from a single source then it is bad. In a health conscious community, then using such extremes is neither relevant nor helpful.

Hush you, you're suppose to be a bro. Now brofist me and stuff.

[ElMariachi]

Not sure why people blame Meadows, you can see a lot of the contest prep stuff he put together for AV right on his website. It's funny how when bodybuilder's don't do as well, people automatically blame the coach/guru...whoever. BRB, Tom Brady had a terrible game, it's all Belichick's fault. Sometimes its just that these guys themselves **** up, make mistakes, like all people do.

[MaKaiser]

I heard Antoine actually abandoned JM right around the time he started prepping? Not sure if its true though

Interesting. Where did you here that?


Also travelling non stop and drinking Jack D probably didn't help.

[hfce354]

I've listened to john meadows blabber on about these completely wrong nutritional points he makes during these shopping videos. Like 80% of the crap he says is completely wrong. Idk where he gets his info from but coming from someone who's studying nutrition and getting into sports dietetics in graduate school, I was appalled. Why would you make Any athlete use coconut oil 24/7? The oil with the highest saturated fat, and almost no good fats. Probably a good reason why Antoine looks fat, flat, and just overall bad. He looked way better when he got his card. These road trips probably don't help either, as you guys have said. I see a bright future for Antoine, but I think he needs em the right supporting cast and can't just mess around traveling all year because it takes a toll on your body.

Do just a little bit of research dude. Coconut oil is an incredible fat source. Much of it is actually MCT's and the other components are the stuff from breast Milk. The stuff has drastically changed my life at the times i am doing keto.

[Larfleeze]

Interesting. Where did you here that?


Also travelling non stop and drinking Jack D probably didn't help.

Drinking JD never helps..ever.

[CalebRM]

I've listened to john meadows blabber on about these completely wrong nutritional points he makes during these shopping videos. Like 80% of the crap he says is completely wrong. Idk where he gets his info from but coming from someone who's studying nutrition and getting into sports dietetics in graduate school, I was appalled. Why would you make Any athlete use coconut oil 24/7? The oil with the highest saturated fat, and almost no good fats. Probably a good reason why Antoine looks fat, flat, and just overall bad. He looked way better when he got his card. These road trips probably don't help either, as you guys have said. I see a bright future for Antoine, but I think he needs em the right supporting cast and can't just mess around traveling all year because it takes a toll on your body.

I just have to laugh at your entire post. What you just said shows how much you "know" about nutrition.

John is a very smart guy when it comes to nutiriton and diet.

How do we knoe how well Antoine followed the diet. We all know he was traveling like crazy, wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't sticking to the diet.

This.

[B-Neva]

Interesting. Where did you here that?


Also travelling non stop and drinking Jack D probably didn't help.

lol where did you hear about jack daniels

edit: nvm saw the PWO video

[masthead716]

John is a very smart guy when it comes to nutiriton and diet.

How do we knoe how well Antoine followed the diet. We all know he was traveling like crazy, wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't sticking to the diet.

I think it was Naturalguy who said Antoine had done a great job sticking to his diet and not missing workouts while on the road, but obviously he's going to back an athlete from his camp.

Does anyone know who else John Meadows has prepped that's a big name for comparison?

[mdritter]

Toine def had a bad showing, who cares "what happened" I'm more interested in how he responds for his next showing, I think he still has a promising career!

[masthead716]

Toine def had a bad showing, who cares "what happened" I'm more interested in how he responds for his next showing, I think he still has a promising career!

I don't think anyone is questioning Antoine's potential, but rather if John Meadows and him are the right match for prep.

[porrapaulao]

John meadows is the best

George Farah.

[HOT4_S]

John meadows is the best

Hi john

[alan aragon]

I've listened to john meadows blabber on about these completely wrong nutritional points he makes during these shopping videos. Like 80% of the crap he says is completely wrong. Idk where he gets his info from but coming from someone who's studying nutrition and getting into sports dietetics in graduate school, I was appalled. Why would you make Any athlete use coconut oil 24/7? The oil with the highest saturated fat, and almost no good fats. Probably a good reason why Antoine looks fat, flat, and just overall bad.

No question Antoine was off.... In any case, I don't think anyone cares about your dietetics credentials (no offense). I'd like to hear the scientific reasoning behind why coconut oil specifically would be more fattening than other fat sources.

[xStevenx]

I think it was Naturalguy who said Antoine had done a great job sticking to his diet and not missing workouts while on the road, but obviously he's going to back an athlete from his camp.

Does anyone know who else John Meadows has prepped that's a big name for comparison?

He trains Mark Dugdale, and I thought Mark looked pretty good last night.

And of course Naturalguy would say that about the athlete he works with.

There was Hype for Antoine going into the show, so if he were to say "Oh Antoine is eating everything" it wouldn't look good for Universal.

Antoine could have been eating right when Naturalguy was around, what about when he wasnt?

Who knows, frankly, who cares. Antoine will have to make some changes and push on to the next show.

[Canuck77]

how he looked a year ago