Why do so few Americans understand/believe in climate change?

[balllsohard]

It's rather silly to believe that humans are the primary cause of something that's been occurring in cycles long before humans had any real presence on the planet...

It's not that change is occurring. It's the rate of said change that is the biggest issue.

stop gambling with your kid's future

[MaddFinch]

Why does it matter to nonAmericans, especially the ones living in different hemispheres, so much waht Americans do and don't do?

[NickD25]

Because its April 14th and its cold as fuark and snowing at my house right now when it should be 70* out right now.

[balllsohard]

"the artic will have open waters in 20 years

the artic has not had open waters in 3 milion years"

get informed people this by far the most important period in human history that has ever existed or will exist for a long time of we survive.

[QuarterRepCurls]

lol like I said, do you have actual studies?

http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/...sen_etal_3.pdf

http://www.ccrc.unsw.edu.au/Copenhag...nosis_HIGH.pdf

[Reef58]

How do you know this? Accurate records are not available for centuries and centuries. We have been keeping track of this for a very small amount of time. How many years of records do we have for the North and South Pole? 300 years ago we did not know many areas of the US existed. I am not saying there is or is not global warming, but we don't have enough data yet.

There is more than enough empirical evidence to show that temps have been changing.



temperatures change over a period of time since earth has been developing yes, but in the past century the change has been 800% faster than normal.


majority of clueless remarks that will be posted ITT (like the ones above) are simple arguments that can be answered by doing a quick google search. they aren't even debatable anymore, these questions have been answered years ago.

there is no debate among the scientific community about human caused global warming.

[QuarterRepCurls]

Why does it matter to nonAmericans, especially the ones living in different hemispheres, so much waht Americans do and don't do?

because US is plays a big factor in what other countries do, not to mention they are one of the leaders in CO2 emissions

[balllsohard]

Why does it matter to nonAmericans, especially the ones living in different hemispheres, so much waht Americans do and don't do?

Because there's 300 million of you.

[victor_maximus]

Science Labs were caught skewing data so they could get more research grant money $$$. (srs) Don't believe everything people tell you.

[litttlemiss]

yea i was fighting off wooly mammoths the other day; chit was crazy

[ChillBot]

if there were $$$ to be made it would be a huge deal here

[Arnoldfan01]

The national scientific academies of Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, the Caribbean, China, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Malaysia, New Zealand, Sweden, Turkey, Japan, Mexico, Russia, South Africa, the United Kingdom, and the United States all believe that it exists and we are causing it so why are you guys being such dbags.

There are a lot who do believe it, but it's bull****. Climate change happens, but it's natural, not man made...spring, summer, fall, winter. In the early 80s they warned of global cooling, then global warming. I've been hearing this crap for a long time, but I'm just not dumb enough to believe it. Now it's called climate change, instead of global warming, bc it's just not hot enough these days.
The earth has been around for billions of years, were not going to change the weather. In fact, there is nothing we can do to change it or destroy it, hell, even if you lit up every nuke on the planet, the fallout would eventually clear, and life would re-emerge.

[rattler280]

Science Labs were caught skewing data so they could get more research grant money $$$. (srs) Don't believe everything people tell you.

If I can't trust Al Gore who can I trust?

[QuarterRepCurls]

Science Labs were caught skewing data so they could get more research grant money $$$. (srs) Don't believe everything people tell you.

there is a difference between peer reviewed studies that have been published in a journal and political organizations like IPCC


majority of climatologists who study these things DO NOT get large lumps of money for doing so.


miscers need to understand the difference between SCIENTISTS and SCIENCE because one of them has an opinion, bias, and agenda and the other does not

[balllsohard]

Science Labs were caught skewing data so they could get more research grant money $$$. (srs) Don't believe everything people tell you.

If you actually read the emails you would know the whole thing was a smear campaign. Did you read the emails, perchance?

[QuarterRepCurls]

There are a lot who do believe it, but it's bull****. Climate change happens, but it's natural, not man made...spring, summer, fall, winter. In the early 80s they warned of global cooling, then global warming. I've been hearing this crap for a long time, but I'm just not dumb enough to believe it. Now it's called climate change, instead of global warming, bc it's just not hot enough these days.
The earth has been around for billions of years, were not going to change the weather. In fact, there is nothing we can do to change it or destroy it, hell, even if you lit up every nuke on the planet, the fallout would eventually clear, and life would re-emerge.

In the 80's the majority of scientists predicted global warming, not global cooling.

psuedo journalism sites like NewWeek blew up some stories about global cooling which in no way was the consensus of scientists at the time.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-...termediate.htm

1970s ice age predictions were predominantly media based. The majority of peer reviewed research at the time predicted warming due to increasing CO2.

[BTTB3]

It's rather silly to believe that humans are the primary cause of something that's been occurring in cycles long before humans had any real presence on the planet...

There are a lot who do believe it, but it's bull****. Climate change happens, but it's natural, not man made...spring, summer, fall, winter. In the early 80s they warned of global cooling, then global warming. I've been hearing this crap for a long time, but I'm just not dumb enough to believe it. Now it's called climate change, instead of global warming, bc it's just not hot enough these days.
The earth has been around for billions of years, were not going to change the weather. In fact, there is nothing we can do to change it or destroy it, hell, even if you lit up every nuke on the planet, the fallout would eventually clear, and life would re-emerge.

This forum can complain about "libs" all it wants, but right here is good ol' right wing Conservative party logic. Can't believe people are this retarded.

[put5onyo]

Because Pacific decadal oscillation, which humans have no control over, better explains the changes we are seeing in our climates.


It times up perfectly with the "World is going to Freeze" of the 1970's, the "World is going to Burn" of the late-90's into early-2000's, and since it shifted back to the same it was in the 60's and 70's, the reason temperatures have started to go back down and we are seeing "Climate Change" instead of "Global Warming."


But I'm sure you'd already researched all of that.

[DasWunderBrah]

How do you know this? Accurate records are not available for centuries and centuries. We have been keeping track of this for a very small amount of time. How many years of records do we have for the North and South Pole? 300 years ago we did not know many areas of the US existed. I am not saying there is or is not global warming, but we don't have enough data yet.

pls go. research not even once

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...f/347139a0.pdf

[scotyg]

Because its April 14th and its cold as fuark and snowing at my house right now when it should be 70* out right now.

This. Brb wearing long underwear and a sweater to the bars Friday night instead of a shirt.

[balllsohard]

There are a lot who do believe it, but it's bull****. Climate change happens, but it's natural, not man made...spring, summer, fall, winter. In the early 80s they warned of global cooling, then global warming. I've been hearing this crap for a long time, but I'm just not dumb enough to believe it. Now it's called climate change, instead of global warming, bc it's just not hot enough these days.
The earth has been around for billions of years, were not going to change the weather. In fact, there is nothing we can do to change it or destroy it, hell, even if you lit up every nuke on the planet, the fallout would eventually clear, and life would re-emerge.

1. EVERYONE EVERYWHERE KNOWS THAT THE CLIMATE CHANGES NATURALLY, PHUKING HELL
2. Just because science changes according to our understanding doesnt mean it's never right.
3. It's still called global warming if you want to call it that, temperatures are still getting consistently higher everywhere.

ok im actually done now you just went full potato

4. The earth has been around for billions of years, there's no way we could leave it and go to the moon.
5. The earth has been around for billions of years, there's no way we could have a face-to-face conversation with someone in another country
6. H.A.A.R.P, we can and do control the weather phucknuts

[NephilimRising]

I've heard that global warming leads to global cooling because of hydrogen bonds in water. Can anyone explain that to me?

I know that the polar ice caps melting means more water, water has a high specific heat so it's hard to cool down, as well as warm up.

I know that more water = more water expansion = flooded coastal areas.

Tbh, I only have mechanics under my belt so the science of climate change is way beyond me. But the arguments that go something like "it's been changing all along" are cringeworthy.

[zzyyyzzz]

It is because of the sun mate

the ****ing sun

You think the ice age was caused by humans?

[Lowkeii]

not to mention oil-sponsored anti-climate change propaganda.

the world is crazy

Im not saying climate change and global warming are true/false but you're fukin naive if you dont think there is corporate/political sponsored pro global warming propaganda as well.

There will always be companies/political figures lobbying both sides of this argument for there own personal good regardless of what is actually happening.

[balllsohard]

Im not saying climate change and global warming are true/false but you're fukin naive if you dont think there is corporate/political sponsored pro global warming propaganda as well.

There will always be companies/political figures lobbying both sides of this argument for there own personal good regardless of what is actually happening.

Who is doing it and what do they have to gain from people supporting clean energy?

[balllsohard]

It is because of the sun mate

the ****ing sun

You think the ice age was caused by humans?

no the ice age was caused by a cyclical climate.

[MaddFinch]

because US is plays a big factor in what other countries do, not to mention they are one of the leaders in CO2 emissions

Then how about other countries quit dealing with the US and how they handle things instead of begging for change from a country that doesn't want to and/or can't. The US isn't like most Euro countries, most Americans spend a great amount of time commuting to and from work, etc.

Because there's 300 million of you.

What is your point, child?



I don't buy into the hype. At first it was global warming, now its global climate change. It's always something to write books / conduct studies / spend hours scaring the masses who never leave big cities so they can make money and make people fight about bs.

[put5onyo]

Not only do I want to procreate with you, but it appears you are actually intelligent as well.



Is such a thing even possible?

[shroomed]

http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/...sen_etal_3.pdf

http://www.ccrc.unsw.edu.au/Copenhag...nosis_HIGH.pdf

Did you actually read these or do a quick google search to help prove your point? There is nothing near the "800% faster" climate change you claimed. It's all yearly fluctuations in temperature that have been going on earth for eons. We hardly have reliable evidence of global temperatures from the past 100 years.
No doubt human activities are having an effect all over earth but it's highly exaggerated. We're just amidst one of the temperature variatons mother earth has been going through since the beginning.

[QuarterRepCurls]

it's a fact of science that CO2 molecules can absorb photons at a specific energy level and release them at a higher energy level

this energy is in the form of heat. when more CO2 molecules are present in the air, this effect is magnified.

More CO2 in the atmosphere = more energy in the form of heat

More heat= higher temperatures


what don't you numb nuts understand about that? if you break down climate change to the very core of atomic physics, it makes perfect sense.