I have just started working out at a near by gym. 1 wk down. My 1st wk I did elliptical 20 mins and weight machines for legs 20 mins.
this wk starting Sunday 30 mimutes ( 20 elliptical and 10 treadmill ) plus 30 mins of weight machine for legs and arms. I have cut on food intake and heating healthier. I feel I'm on the right track. Any opinions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Thread: losing weight. any tips?
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12-17-2012, 11:56 AM #1
losing weight. any tips?
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12-17-2012, 12:00 PM #2
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12-17-2012, 08:08 PM #3
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12-17-2012, 08:09 PM #4
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12-17-2012, 11:51 PM #5
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CLA and carnitine are placebos. Fish oil is good for several functions that fall under the category of 'health' not weight loss though.
As stated, calories in vs. calories out determines weight loss. The only other things you need worry about are:
- hitting minimum levels of protein and fat each day
- weight training at least 2-3 times a week to maintain lean mass
- getting your RDA for vitamins and minerals
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12-18-2012, 02:35 PM #6
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12-19-2012, 12:22 AM #8
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But you need carbohydrates for optimum gym performance. And no you can't effectively 'time' your intake because digestion is much slower than people seem to think.
Knowing the fundamentals of nutrition is more important than making arbitrary restrictions. See my post above. See the sticky threads in the nutrition forum.
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12-20-2012, 01:48 AM #9
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12-21-2012, 06:48 AM #10
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12-21-2012, 12:40 PM #11
First of all just to give the OP some correct (or at least differing for the sake of argument) information...you do NOT need carbohydrates for optimum gym performance!!! I stay below 20g of net carbs 6 days a week and have "very" optimum gym performances...weight of 175lbs and I bench 335lbs and leg press 900+lbs and lat pull 270lbs (just as three examples)...I give these examples not to brag but to demonstrate that after your 1st week (2nd week for some people) of very low carbs you will feel stronger and have even better workouts then when you were consuming carbs...you will also shed the fat and yes it is possible to increase muscle mass with the right protein/fat ratio and low carbs....
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12-21-2012, 12:48 PM #12
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Whilst individual anecdotes are interesting, the majority of lifters find they are better with carbs.
Perhaps you have some kind of metabolic disorder if you don't function as well with carbs vs. without.
A lot of the time, people on low carb diets eat so much protein that they may as well be on a moderate carb diet. Excess protein is converted to glucose by the body.
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12-21-2012, 01:09 PM #13
I agree about the excess protein however this is hardly anecdotal...I could link many, many studies and evidence to show that Ketosis does not negatively effect strength or performance after and initial 7-10 day time period! I can't link for some reason but a few article study titles are "Ketogenic diet does not affect strength performance in elite artistic gymnasts"...and in another article which is one of the most comprehensive done by the National Instutes of Health on VLCARB Diets "Very-low-carbohydrate diets and preservation of muscle mass" they looked at all of the major studies on this subject and found in conclusion that "that a VLCARB is, if anything, protective against muscle protein catabolism " and the whole article basically summarizes that there was no loss of energy or muscle and that in many instances muscle was actually gained while fat was lost...
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12-22-2012, 12:58 AM #14
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^ Yes, I believe I have seen such studies. All that proves is that the body has enough stored glycogen to cope with 7-10 days of training...
Once you become glycogen depleted then there is no question that your performance will suffer. As I am sure you know, most people who do any kind of training volume need to use protocols such as CKD or TKD. These are essentially carb timing protocols - this underlines the fact that carbs are needed for performance, whether you choose to eat them every day, at certain times or just gorge once a week is up to you. As for me, I can't see why a typical person would suffer the inconvenience when there is no upside.
BTW I have used CKD for several months as an experiment to get around a problem with reactive hypoglycemia - it appeared to work well BUT I think the real reason is not ketosis (I was probably not in ketosis because of high protein consumption) but slowing of digestion with a high fat and fibrous vegetable intake. Sure enough, I am now able to cut using a moderate carb diet but paying special consideration to speed of digestion.
But for anyone who trains hard and has a normal glucose metabolism, I really cannot see the point of giving yourself extra work with a low carb diet.
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12-27-2012, 12:27 PM #15
Not to keep on this but look up many articles in The American Academy of Anti-Aging and one specifically by Dr. Kenyon as to the how carbohydrates negatively effect everything in our lives, including our ability to fight diseases and how they even reduce our life span! I only re-feed once or twice a week to change up my routine however I use those usually as my days off as I feel horrible and have very little energy on those days...also I never really go into Ketosis either...thanks
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12-27-2012, 10:42 PM #16
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12-28-2012, 12:48 AM #17
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12-29-2012, 06:30 AM #18
^^^^^ this is good information. These truths will be present in every good weight loss plan.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=136691851
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=123915821
These threads are worth your time to read, they may help you greatly in maintaining good nutrition. The basics of nutrition need not be ignored to lose some weight.The most important aspect of weight training; whether for the athlete, bodybuilder, or average person is to better ones health and ability without injury. - Bill Pearl
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12-29-2012, 06:51 AM #19
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12-29-2012, 10:32 PM #20
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12-30-2012, 12:47 AM #21
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology
correlation =/= causation
Those studies might equally be telling you that people with unhealthy lifestyles like eating lots of carbs. Well duh.
There are countless examples of this kind of cherry picking and intellectual dishonesty. As a keto guy, I am sure you can appreciate the lie propogated by Ancell Keys that saturated fats are bad for you because of his cherry picked data where inconvenient data points were removed.
The same can applied to studies regarding carb consumption.
There is no study showing a difference between people whith otherwise equivalent lifestyles - where the only difference is carbs vs. fat consumption. It doesn't exist and there is not even a respected theory explaining when carbs would somehow cause these problems.
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