What do you think of holding records? My first meet soon...

[allergic2rice]

I plan on competing at least sometime in the spring next year, and was wondering:

what does it mean to hold a record for teens?


I mean, many of the weight classes in RAW federations for the teenage division (16-17) are just there for the taking.
what's your opinion on this?

would it mean anything if I competed and held the record?

of course, to me personally it would mean the world to even compete, but what is your opinion on teen records?

[MarcinPB]

I plan on competing at least sometime in the spring next year, and was wondering:

what does it mean to hold a record for teens?


I mean, many of the weight classes in RAW federations for the teenage division (16-17) are just there for the taking.
what's your opinion on this?

would it mean anything if I competed and held the record?

of course, to me personally it would mean the world to even compete, but what is your opinion on teen records?

I feel they mean nothing. Ive seen kids in my gym pull close to 500lbs who are just naturally freaks. Unless you are pulling alot of weight for a weight class it really doesnt mean much.

[isaku900]

only records that mean anything are all-time or open in well established federations.

[Liftamulti]

All-time records posted on powerliftingwatch.com are the important ones, but any record still holds bearing.

[allergic2rice]

I feel they mean nothing. Ive seen kids in my gym pull close to 500lbs who are just naturally freaks. Unless you are pulling alot of weight for a weight class it really doesnt mean much.

really? how old are they?
I'm hoping to be somewhere near that number by meet-time...

only records that mean anything are all-time or open in well established federations.

I suppose....
the teenage lifters holding national records are monsters, 181 has something like a 1400 total, although I believe it is geared.
wish I would have trained seriously earlier

[B.Money]

It means you hold the record under those conditions in that fed. Doesn't mean your the best in the world, but you already know that. Your better off getting those records than competing and not getting those records. More than anything, its good for your progress to have a solid goal to work toward. If its an achievable record, and you hit huge PR's working toward it, I don't think anyone can argue its meaningless. Eventually you can work your way up to the more competitive ones.

Go get some damn records man! Then go back next time and bust them up again!

[BT160]

Personally I take them lightly even though I have quite a few. The only ones im honestly proud to brag about was my 605@198 raw dead in the IPA when i was 18, and my 540 raw squat in the UPA.

If your teen record puts you in the top 50 all time on powerlifting watch (which is regardless of age) then you have alot to be proud of

[C0bra]

IMO OPEN records wether state or national is soemthing to be proud of....the more age specific ones sometimes can easily be beaten. Especially if the fed is very small.

My first meet was with 100% RAW powerlifting Federation (a fairly recent fed).....I competed in the 20-24 age group and 242 weight class.....I was the first person in my state to compete in this weight class and age group for this fed so there were no records to begin with.


so by default I hold state records for that age group and weight class......I could have lifted the fukking bar for every lift and I would have set the records at 45 lbs lol

[isaku900]

all I have to say is that there are masters (age) lifters around where I live who have hundreds of state, national and world records, and they haven't gotten any stronger, or hit any significant PRs (and aren't very strong talking 400s single ply bench @ 308) yet continue to rack up records.

if you look hard enough, you can get a "world record" without being strong.

[babylover]

With the introduction of raw, alot of blank and easy records in teen junior and masters divs are running around.

I have the total WR in the WPC for a 1512@220 teenage/raw. Not a huge total by any standards, but not something to laugh at either. I think it will be some time before a teen will take my 711 deadlift record in the WPC.

Instead of bitching about how little they mean, I say it's better to go about filling these records at a high standard so that all ages and groups can have something to shoot for. Whether it means much is irrelevant. It's a nice little motivator for some teen to try a bit harder to get their names on the records books.

Raw is relatively new. In time, decent federations will have quite an impressive depth of records and owning any at any level is some achievement.

A girl I coach, Cami, automatically set records in the teenage 132 in the WPC raw class. She would have gotten records for lifting the bar. She put up a 325 deadlift among other good lifts. Nothing to laugh at.

All I can say OP is, take the record, and set a damn good one to challenge the next kid who tries to take them.

[allergic2rice]

hm...thanks for all of the insight guys, I'm mostly competing for my personal pride and gratification.

just enjoying my record-capturing abilities while I'm young

[C0bra]

hm...thanks for all of the insight guys, I'm mostly competing for my personal pride and gratification.

just enjoying my record-capturing abilities while I'm young

in the end that's the only thing that matters

[UHCougar05]

all I have to say is that there are masters (age) lifters around where I live who have hundreds of state, national and world records, and they haven't gotten any stronger, or hit any significant PRs (and aren't very strong talking 400s single ply bench @ 308) yet continue to rack up records.

if you look hard enough, you can get a "world record" without being strong.

Trophy hunters...bah.

[isaku900]

Trophy hunters...bah.

yer, turned me off to the whole "records mean anything". what matters is my total going up.

part of it comes from starting to compete in the USPF where the records were so ridiculous that I knew I wouldn't have a shot for years and years, like when I started lifting 275, the Open squat record is 1019, single ply, walked out. So the focus was on getting stronger, not looking for records.

[WHT_LIGHTNING]

all I have to say is that there are masters (age) lifters around where I live who have hundreds of state, national and world records, and they haven't gotten any stronger, or hit any significant PRs (and aren't very strong talking 400s single ply bench @ 308) yet continue to rack up records.

if you look hard enough, you can get a "world record" without being strong.

that is so lame

[john-t-b]

The only thing i think it will do for you is motivate you.

When i was 16/17 i competed in Pa for a USA bench championship. I came in thrird place. Wow impressive, except there were only four of us and i was 200# below the first place and about 75# below my friend who took second. It was my first competition and had more fun just travelling to the show from Ma.

It did motivate me to do better for myself though.

[Liftamulti]

I have an AAPF state squat record with 225lb squat. I have the bench, deadlift, and total too. That tells you all you need to know.

[csday924]

If holding those records gives you something to shoot for then by all means go get them. I used the jr records to go hit high numbers in my first meet and ended up with pr's accross the board and an American squat record. However when that record does not break the top 50 on pl watch I don't think its something to brag about especially to those who really know about lifting.

[BombDonald]

If holding those records gives you something to shoot for then by all means go get them. I used the jr records to go hit high numbers in my first meet and ended up with pr's accross the board and an American squat record. However when that record does not break the top 50 on pl watch I don't think its something to brag about especially to those who really know about lifting.

Agreed. When I was more naive about records, I thought the USAPL raw junior records actually meant something. The 181 raw junior squat record was like 479 for my first meet and I got 485 but something got overlooked so it didn't count officially so I was kinda pissed. Then some dude squats 485 later that year and gets the record. Then later that year I nailed 505 and officially held the record for all of about a minute before the guy right after me squatted 520. Then 23 year old Reece Verbois comes in and squats 578 raw at 181.

The records are going to keep getting beat at a fast pace. The past couple meets I have been to have finally slowed down a bit for records being set though, you aren't hearing "for a new American record!" every other attempt now.

[Homanator]

I'm also pretty uncertain as to how much holding a record means. As far as I can see I already could go compete and hold a record in my provincial devision and I'm pretty weak right now. The open stuff looks hard as fuuuuuu though.

I'd personally just concentrate on competing and doing better and better in competition.

[BongoBanger]

Agreed. When I was more naive about records, I thought the USAPL raw junior records actually meant something. The 181 raw junior squat record was like 479 for my first meet and I got 485 but something got overlooked so it didn't count officially so I was kinda pissed. Then some dude squats 485 later that year and gets the record. Then later that year I nailed 505 and officially held the record for all of about a minute before the guy right after me squatted 520. Then 23 year old Reece Verbois comes in and squats 578 raw at 181.

The records are going to keep getting beat at a fast pace. The past couple meets I have been to have finally slowed down a bit for records being set though, you aren't hearing "for a new American record!" every other attempt now.

i have 4 usapl jr raw records now.

i know someone will just come in and completely merk my deadlift and bench sometime soon.

in all honesty i knew the kid who put the deadlift/total record up before me was pretty happy about it and i wanted to be a dick and take it away. So i put my dead 2nd attempt 2.5kgs above his.

[Incensed]

i have 4 usapl jr raw records now.

i know someone will just come in and completely merk my deadlift and bench sometime soon.

in all honesty i knew the kid who put the deadlift/total record up before me was pretty happy about it and i wanted to be a dick and take it away. So i put my dead 2nd attempt 2.5kgs above his.

How close were you to the Open mens squat record?

[BongoBanger]

How close were you to the Open mens squat record?

thats 473 so im 11lbs away. Ive hit 475 for singles in training before too. I attempted the open deadlift record with 530 but couldnt get it moving(Thats way low for the dead record imo). With me ending a cut now im pretty confident in me hitting a 500+ squat next time im out there.

[Link815]

It's pretty much been said, but I have a lot of USAPL/ADFPF state records, and a USAPL national record in the teens, doesn't mean anything other than no one else tried that was remotely strong, or I was the strongest at that particular meet that day.

[SonOfTowelHorn]

It's pretty much been said, but I have a lot of USAPL/ADFPF state records, and a USAPL national record in the teens, doesn't mean anything other than no one else tried that was remotely strong, or I was the strongest at that particular meet that day.

Ditto, 10 months of training and I did 5 lbs above the American record in my first meet today, didn't count because there wasn't enough national level judges however. It's still sad that a mid 300 squat is a record in any class above 181 though.