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02-13-2013, 12:10 PM #781
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02-13-2013, 12:14 PM #783
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02-13-2013, 01:14 PM #784
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02-13-2013, 03:10 PM #786
You cleared up so many of my questions in a single paragraph, thank you.
Which routine do you feel is more appropriate for me: your four-five day upper/lower split for mid-level intermediates or your 3 day full body beginning intermediate split? I feel as if I am a beginning intermediate.
I appreciate the help.Last edited by JRemix; 02-13-2013 at 05:59 PM.
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02-13-2013, 04:56 PM #787
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02-13-2013, 05:30 PM #788
Thanks. I read the articles (Berto recommends 1-2lb a month for intermediates) but If a first year lifter (based on the muscular potential scale from bodyrecomposition.com/in the levels of development article) can gain up to 2lb of muscle a month, wouldn't some extra fat be needed to add those 2lbs?
I had already read the first article (just the beginner section though, just re read it) and the other two had a good take home message of slow and steady wins the race. There's also the fact that more fat gain now means more dieting later.
I will watch the video series.Last edited by JRemix; 02-13-2013 at 06:09 PM.
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02-13-2013, 05:50 PM #789
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Too much overthinking, and not enough time spent lifting, eating, resting, and sleeping ^^^ Just being real. Trying to pinpoint if you gain 2 or 2.2 or 2.5 or 1.5 pounds a month and if you make good success is great and all, but why not use the mirror, your gym performance, and your lifts/energy/mood as key indicators of your progress. Berto cant read your body unlike yourself which you have to learn through trial and error. We are all different.
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02-13-2013, 06:05 PM #790
Yeah you are right, I just remembered that Berto already told me that month to month you'll gain diff amounts of weight and it's all about adjusting etc and results over time (since gaining phases are 6 months+). In that case small differences of 0.5lb a month aren't that big of a deal. At least I know that I should not be gaining 3lbs a month.
I have one question left from my above post (the one of whether 3dmjs 3 day full body or their upper/lower split would be best for me)...but I have a feeling Berto implied that 3 day full body is ideal for now since I discussed that in my post (and I said upper/lower prob isn't right just yet).Last edited by JRemix; 02-13-2013 at 06:26 PM.
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02-13-2013, 06:23 PM #791
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02-15-2013, 09:01 PM #794
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Long time lurker, very motivating stuff here! I always look at your pics for motivation when dieting down for a show, which is currently the case as well haha.
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02-16-2013, 03:32 AM #795
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02-16-2013, 07:14 PM #797
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You are beyond linear progression dude
I think two more reps would have been possible...Going for 3's tomorrow
I think for you a medium small would be best, because mediums I think are best for natural heavies, and then the other sizes are for dudes that are 200+ + +
Intermediates should NOT be on a split that has you workout 6 our of 8 days. In my opinion...
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02-16-2013, 07:29 PM #798
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02-16-2013, 08:09 PM #800
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02-16-2013, 09:40 PM #801
Great to see you on MFP!
And I have a question if it's okay. For a beginner that's seriously lifted for about 6 months now, is linear progress that important? Because while I've gained about 7 pounds in like 4 months, my lifts haven't progressed that much. My bench press and overhead press have hardly moved, maybe about 5 pounds for a 5x5, but my squats/deads have improved quite a bit, by around 30 pounds each with proper form, what do you think could be causing the upper body stalling? Should I be getting a bigger surplus? Is it probably an issue of form or overreaching?
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02-17-2013, 12:58 AM #802
Hey Berto, i have a question about shoulder rehab. in the past couple of weeks i've had to stop doing heavy DB presses, overhead and all Bench angles, so i've dropped the weight in half, also for my 'delts' workout i just did really light rotator cuff moves, what are your thoughts on this as i am asking because you've had a shoulder injury if i remember correctly? cheers.
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02-17-2013, 08:49 PM #804
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Your protein seems kinda low? Maybe I'm wrong but I thought earlier in this log you stated you'd be starting at 300g daily since you've known in the past that worked better for you?
Awesome stuff in here thought, I'm starting to really see the need for the RPE scale as I pass that "beyond intermediate" phase and I'm enjoying how you have continued to bring up the significance of going to failure or not.
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02-17-2013, 11:14 PM #805
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Progress should in large should be linear, when it isn't then you can do something with undulating rep work but still in a full body fashion. One thing we have to remember with that all these phases look different on everyone...Bryce Lewis as a early to middle level intermediate was pulling 500lbs so don't go by numbers, but more so the pace of your recovery
Shoulder injuries can vary soooooooooooooooooooooo much from person to person, so many thing can go wrong with that joint. Do your research, and see a specialist. That way you have good questions, and can help him/her narrow down the problem some
Yeah the 5th day is VERY VERY optional but of course people will do it because it means more gym time Four days is about right for most, but feel fee to play around with it
The fatter and more well fed you are the less you need. Right now my is heavier than it wants to be, but I need it...I am accumulating good "fat boy strength"
And yeah totally is helping me progress at the right rate for me, and this is despite the fact that I am not focusing on strength to much, and really won't until after the the March meet.100% Natural Bodybuilding!
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