I raise it up, lock it out, and then when lowering it I slam it against the ground and do another rep..is that acceptable? I'm not talking about gym etiquette btw.
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10-13-2009, 07:28 PM #1
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Is it bad to slam the bar against the ground during dead lifting?
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slam as in not lowering the bar slowly and letting it hit then pull? I honestly think thats fine because i was under the impression negatives on deads were not exactly good....especially higher weights.
Now if you're doing 135 or 225....thats a bit of a different story. You could probably get away with the set down a little slower, rest, pull.
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10-13-2009, 07:35 PM #5
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The weight is much higher than that. I usually train within a 5RM on dead lifts. Occasionally I go for a 1RM.
I lower it in the proper way, I just don't do it slowly. I purposely hit the bar into the ground. It gets me more pumped up than doing things all calm. I'm very external.Last edited by Street_Ryda; 10-13-2009 at 07:37 PM.
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10-13-2009, 07:38 PM #7
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if you're pausing at the bottom and not bouncing it i think its okay....i dont care one bit about making noise when i do deads....id rather have people look at me funny than slip a disc or pull a muscle.
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10-13-2009, 07:41 PM #8
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Lol. My gym doesn't allow chalk, but guys bring it in anyway. It's not strict at all, it's run by the city.
I could care less if people are bothered by it. If the sound of weights smashing, clanging and banging is too "annoying" for them, maybe they aren't meant to be at the gym. I love hearing it.'viking EAT chains and sh*t chains!' - Svend Karlsen
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10-13-2009, 07:43 PM #9
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My main concern is would me slamming it into the ground allow me to lift more weight?
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I sort of the think the rule is that if you can do more reps than you dont need to be dropping the weight. If you are doing a 1rm or something like that and you simply have no more steam then just do your best.
i have bumper plates ond dont even drop them on deads because I feel that the down portion is half the movement. if I feel an injury or something then i will drop it but only then.
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If the weight drops and hits hard, that's one thing, but to be honest, "slamming" it on purpose just sounds like a jerk move to me. I mean, it may help you lift heavier, but won't help your gains any. Also, I understand that there's always some noise in the gym, and I'm not a silent lifter, but if I can tell someone is making noise on purpose and not as an after-effect of the lift, it just upsets me. It's like begging people to notice how much you're lifting. To be honest, I get more excited about how I'm lifting when I find that I can fully control a heavy weight through an entire set rather than letting it pull me along.
(I know you said your original post wasn't referring to etiquette, but in this case, I don't think the issue can be completely separated. While I understand that you should be focusing on yourself while working out, having someone who is intentionally creating noise that could be distracting doesn't help. I try to stay in my own zone, but I am also someone who feels that you should never COMPLETELY block out what's going on around you...just seems like a recipe for disaster.)********
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10-14-2009, 05:43 AM #21
This. I've never felt I absolutely had to drop the bar on deads (even when doing max). If I absolutely had to (bar slipping, physical pain, etc.) I would, but I see no benefit of doing it all the time. It's sort of half assing the lift IMO. It's like doing pullups and pulling up, then just let go and hit the floor without lowering your body because you are too lazy to lower your body.
Yeah, you can do a ****load more reps of pullups that way, but at what cost? Are you really getting the full benefit of the lift/exercise? Maybe we should start half assing all of our lifts so we can lift more weight/do more reps?Last edited by guest89; 10-14-2009 at 05:46 AM.
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10-14-2009, 07:14 AM #22
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Wtf? This is not a bally's fitness gym man. I lift in the part of the gym where it's all men. I fail to see how the noise from weights would bother someone unless they have a headache. It's not a library. I'm not yelling my ass off, the only noise I make is with deads, or when I am going to failure, I can't help that. When ever I do incline and I have to knee the weights up into position I make a "psst" noise because it helps me get it up.
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10-14-2009, 07:23 AM #23
I come down with the weight so I dont fatigue myself too much on the eccentric. So yeah I have a bit of a slam. If you have some form of control, I think it is fine. It shouldn't be so much that it jars your joints.
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10-14-2009, 07:31 AM #24
Example: I am hitting the sticking point on my last rep of bench press when all of a sudden: SLAM!!!!! My concentration is broken and I may fail the rep. Thanks!
If there was a good reason to do it, then fine. But there isn't. You are either attention whoring (look at me lift mad weight!), lazy (why do the eccentric portion of the lift?), or simply lifting more then you should.
I can see once in a while, losing control or grip and having to let it go. But all the time?
You can help it. You just don't want to.Jesus is my lifting partner.
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During any exercise, the weight should be controlled at all times. If you can't do this, you're using too much weight.
Continue to "slam" the weight down, and besides looking like a tool bag, you'll cause cumulative damage to your hands, wrists, elbows, etc.No brain, no gain.
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