Official Canadian Thread v.7.0

[On Fire]

I realize that your understanding is limited so going forward anything that I were to state regarding this would go right over your head so please drop it. I know Layne quite well but thanks, lol.

Glad we resolved this with science. Brb hitting up 6 weeks of superdrol @ 50mg cuz some guy on a message board called another guy a pissant and said he was a scientist, what's not to trust?

[B-Neva]

I know ... the hunger pangs are what get me. If I'm not having those I am fine. That's why I was wondering...and i thought maybe it would be different between male and female and out sizes....I dunno lol I'm reaching here

ahh ic, I never got hunger pains when dieting. I averaged about 240g of carbs per day throughout my diet, the lowest I ever got was 170 so I could eat a decent amount of food each day.

[CristyRose]

That's cool! Sounds like you are enjoying it!

Cristy ...whenever you have dieted how long did it take your body to get used to less food?

I am going to agree with B-Neva, about 2 weeks (And I've never done a show prep). I have never experienced hunger pains though my dear. I just dropped 11 pounds too, I was 147 and now 136. Maybe you are eating too little food? Do you have any energy...

I am no scientist but maybe instead of such a calorie cut, change around the composition of macros in your diet instead of blasting right into a full on deficit.

[B-Neva]

yea if you are getting hunger pains especially just starting a diet I think you cut out too much.

[Flex Appeal]

Brains and brawn .... what a combo!!! How are you?!?!

I'm good Lily, how have you been?

You had me at HELLO.

Awww, baby girl- you already know how I feel about you D.

I have a question and maybe flex can answer ... or anyone else ... how long does it take for your body to get used to less food?

It depends on what the metabolic shift is, how much food/caloric intake you are going from and to, what types of foods daily are you going from and to, you mentioned hunger pangs which can easily be controlled by consuming more fibrous vegetables as if you were carb cycling.

Speaking from my own experience and that of clients, 5 to 7 days and your body adapts to it's new internal environment.

[cactusflower]

I am going to agree with B-Neva, about 2 weeks (And I've never done a show prep). I have never experienced hunger pains though my dear. I just dropped 11 pounds too, I was 147 and now 136. Maybe you are eating too little food? Do you have any energy...

I am no scientist but maybe instead of such a calorie cut, change around the composition of macros in your diet instead of blasting right into a full on deficit.

yea if you are getting hunger pains especially just starting a diet I think you cut out too much.

I'm good Lily, how have you been?



Awww, baby girl- you already know how I feel about you D.



It depends on what the metabolic shift is, how much food/caloric intake you are going from and to, what types of foods daily are you going from and to, you mentioned hunger pangs which can easily be controlled by consuming more fibrous vegetables as if you were carb cycling.

Speaking from my own experience and that of clients, 5 to 7 days and your body adapts to it's new internal environment.

Thanks guys!! I hate and I mean hate tracking calories....such a pain in the arse. Never thought about the fibrous veggies....good thought. Well here's to some experimenting!

[medusa11]

Morning guys, how goes?

[FrozenMercury]

Morning guys, how goes?

Good man. Where ya from? 4:10AM here. (Still up)

[medusa11]

Good man. Where ya from? 4:10AM here. (Still up)

Manitoba. Im up with babies.

[Lucky_ROA]

lol 'controlled condition'

An 'experiment' was defined as data collection under controlled conditions- but what does 'controlled conditions' mean?

I laughed as well.

LOL seriously ? I thought with those fancy degrees you could have atleast grasped and explain your stance further instead of putting up with a lame excuse lol

It means that variables that can affect the data collected from an experiment are monitored and held constant. Control is essential for two reasons:

1. Natural phenomena involve many interrelated variables, and if some of these variables are not held fixed over the course of the experiment, patterns in the data may be difficult or impossible to discover.
2. To ensure that the data is reliable, an experiment must be repeatable and the data must be reproducible. Controlling conditions makes it possible for others to duplicate the experiment.

Flex Peel's statement have only to do with laboratory chemistry, not so much what goes on in the human body. It has nothing to do with dietary value of ingested protein. So I am hoping he has a good reason why he made a totally illogical post that actually had me rolling for a good night's laugh that was much needed

I laughed as well.

LOL says the doctor of organic and bio chemistry. You wouldn't know organic and bio chemistry even if it ****ed you in your mouth and identified itself !

[CristyRose]

Thanks guys!! I hate and I mean hate tracking calories....such a pain in the arse. Never thought about the fibrous veggies....good thought. Well here's to some experimenting!

It is a good thought. I eat so much fibrous veggies, I go to costco and load up! Going there now - wanna come? haha

[CristyRose]

[QUOTE=Lucky_ROA;579462701]An 'experiment' was defined as data collection under controlled conditions- but what does 'controlled conditions' mean?




It's raining out - what a garbage day.

[CJWells]

STUPID SNOW!!!
BRB moving to the Bahamas

[Beccag23]

Thanks guys!! I hate and I mean hate tracking calories....such a pain in the arse. Never thought about the fibrous veggies....good thought. Well here's to some experimenting!

I found when I was dieting towards the end of prep I cut out most of the starchy carbs and went with veggies. I'd ratehr have a massive bowl of something rather than 40g of oats, much more filling.

The hunger doesnt last, if you're that hungry you may have cut too much, too fast. I also find that the more intense cardio I do, the hungrier I am, when I was switched to longer, but easier cardio sessions I had less hunger even on less food.

[medusa11]

STUPID SNOW!!!
BRB moving to the Bahamas

I second this. Flipping snowfall warnings.

[B-Neva]

Thanks guys!! I hate and I mean hate tracking calories....such a pain in the arse. Never thought about the fibrous veggies....good thought. Well here's to some experimenting!

and don't get caught in the whole "I have to eat chicken and rice/veggies" thing because you CAN diet on other foods. I was eating stuff like chocolate pudding and popcorn.

[silverlining84]

STUPID SNOW!!!
BRB moving to the Bahamas

We got a dusting of it last night. I love snow on the mountains but it can stay off the roads!

[Beccag23]

and don't get caught in the whole "I have to eat chicken and rice/veggies" thing because you CAN diet on other foods. I was eating stuff like chocolate pudding and popcorn.

Same here... popcorn became my favorite post workout food simply becuase you get so much more volume... and it's tasty. lol

[Flex Appeal]

LOL seriously ? I thought with those fancy degrees you could have atleast grasped and explain your stance further instead of putting up with a lame excuse lol

LOL says the doctor of organic and bio chemistry. You wouldn't know organic and bio chemistry even if it ****ed you in your mouth and identified itself !

It's not what you said but how you said it... please stop because I can see by your GOOGLE education and your Mr.Olympia physique that you surely know of which you speak.

The fact that you're still posting to satisfy your insecurities is what is funny.

Never thought about the fibrous veggies....good thought.

It is a good thought. I eat so much fibrous veggies, I go to costco and load up!

Of course it was ladies, that's why I said it- I'm here for you.

P.M. me again if you need anything else.

[CJWells]

We got a dusting of it last night. I love snow on the mountains but it can stay off the roads!

a dusting?!?!?! Sh!t we got a friggin dumping over the past 3 days!

[silverlining84]

a dusting?!?!?! Sh!t we got a friggin dumping over the past 3 days!

Are you in Alberta? Come on now, i'm in the lower mainland in BC. We don't get much as it is lol.

[Guai]

Same here... popcorn became my favorite post workout food simply becuase you get so much more volume... and it's tasty. lol

Seconding that. My favourite bar is a 1 minute walk from my gym and my immediate post workout is half a pint of beer and a basket of popcorn. Then home I go and have more "proper" things.

[Lucky_ROA]

It's not what you said but how you said it... please stop because I can see by your GOOGLE education and your Mr.Olympia physique that you surely know of which you speak.

The fact that you're still posting to satisfy your insecurities is what is funny.

Yes, of course its funny because u don't understand it, don't recognize it, and cant refute it, or wouldn't even know where to start.

Nothing you said in your previous posts was concerned with the topic at hand, absolutely nothing. anybody who took even a simple 2 week nutrition course could tell you u are completely ****ing wrong provided the topic on hand. What a pathetic useless waste of orangutan sperm

And the worse part is, besides the fact that you actually thought you were right (LOL), is that wack wack sarcasm and attempt at trying to prove someone wrong lol

Your posts are full of incorrect assumptions. research, re write, re post and apologize for spreading garbage on this site for the last 3 years. I'm done with you because I've seen u argue for much more stupider **** than this. Even if you reply to this post ( like the retard that you are ) have fun at satisfying your ego

[CJWells]

Are you in Alberta? Come on now, i'm in the lower mainland in BC. We don't get much as it is lol.

yea Im in calgary
There is more white powder around than a rappers tour bus :P

[On Fire]

It's not what you said but how you said it... please stop because I can see by your GOOGLE education and your Mr.Olympia physique that you surely know of which you speak.

The fact that you're still posting to satisfy your insecurities is what is funny.

You really are a charmer, aren't you? Keep pinning champ. Nothing like using gear to use yourself as a billboard for a "body transformation" business. I see it all the time in trainers and it's ****ing laughable. The fact that you can look can even hold your head up high is a joke. Love it when a steroid user that hides his steroid use tries to call other people insecure.

I've never seen someone tiptoe around an issue like this when called out directly. Try to gain back a fraction of cred by explaining how denatured protein caused by cooking renders the protein content of foods useless. I guess it explains how farmers in canada and the USA have been jacked for centuries eating cooked beef, pork, chicken, turkey and eggs, all of which are denatured, whereas the japanese have been chowing down on raw fish since god knows when, and look at how naturally strong they are?

And this brings me to literally my absolute FAVORITE point of this conversation. Allow me to requote you for effect:

I can see by your GOOGLE education

Go on....

Did you also know that changes in salt concentration can also denature proteins, but it depends on a few factors including the identity of the salt?

For example, Ammonium sulfate tends to stabilize protein structures and increase their melting temperatures but others, such as calcium chloride actually destabilize proteins and lower the melting temperature and are chaotropic.

We usually use these types of salts in the lab to purify proteins that are being studied as it lowers their solubility and causes them to salt out.

Nice blurb on denaturing via sodium there "Flex", must be nice to have all those chem degrees so you can spout this stuff off the top of your head with ease.... but wait.... what is this?

Changes in salt concentration may also denature proteins, but these effects depend on several factors including the identity of the salt. Some salts, such as ammonium sulfate, tend to stabilize protein structures and increase the melting temperature. Others, such as calcium chloride, destabilize proteins and lower the melting temperature and are called chaotropic. Salts in this category can also be used in the laboratory to help purify proteins that are being studied, by lowering their solubility and causing them to "salt out."

Completely plagiarized, almost word for word, and hastily edited to make it look like his own work. I remember kids doing this in Grade 5 copying sh!t out of microsoft encarta. You have got to be ****ing kidding me.

Take your bull**** parade and get the fuck out of here.


If this whole post was over your head, I can try to refer you to a grade 8 english tutor in your area

[Lucky_ROA]

You really are a charmer, aren't you? Keep pinning champ. Nothing like using gear to use yourself as a billboard for a "body transformation" business. I see it all the time in trainers and it's ****ing laughable. The fact that you can look can even hold your head up high is a joke. Love it when a steroid user that hides his steroid use tries to call other people insecure.

I've never seen someone tiptoe around an issue like this when called out directly. Try to gain back a fraction of cred by explaining how denatured protein caused by cooking renders the protein content of foods useless. I guess it explains how farmers in canada and the USA have been jacked for centuries eating cooked beef, pork, chicken, turkey and eggs, all of which are denatured, whereas the japanese have been chowing down on raw fish since god knows when, and look at how naturally strong they are?

And this brings me to literally my absolute FAVORITE point of this conversation. Allow me to requote you for effect:


Go on....


Nice blurb on denaturing via sodium there "Flex", must be nice to have all those chem degrees so you can spout this stuff off the top of your head with ease.... but wait.... what is this?



Completely plagiarized, almost word for word, and hastily edited to make it look like his own work. I remember kids doing this in Grade 5 copying sh!t out of microsoft encarta. You have got to be ****ing kidding me.

Take your bull**** parade and get the fuck out of here.


If this whole post was over your head, I can try to refer you to a grade 8 english tutor in your area

LMAO ****ing owned !So this is what you learn after having a degree in Organic and Bio Chem...plagiarizing....****in A

Funny thing is he didn't realize this is a laboratory method not something that happens in the process of ingestion of denatured protein ROFL

ROFL this is too good

This should be posted in the Supplements, Supp. Misc, Nutrition and Advanced Nutrition section so this ***got ass can be exposed and so no one falls for his bull****.

+1 for On Fire

[Ouchburns]

It's raining out - what a garbage day.

Snowing here

[CristyRose]

So on a more fun note: I didn't realize cooking for 25 people is such a massive job. I have 10 pounds of denatured lean turkey, 3 hyoooooge sirloin steaks, and kitchen FULL of tapas. I am sweating my behind off!!!!!

[On Fire]

We got a dusting of it last night. I love snow on the mountains but it can stay off the roads!

AMEN! We didn't get any here.

So on a more fun note: I didn't realize cooking for 25 people is such a massive job. I have 10 pounds of denatured lean turkey, 3 hyoooooge sirloin steaks, and kitchen FULL of tapas. I am sweating my behind off!!!!!

LOL!

[Ouchburns]

So on a more fun note: I didn't realize cooking for 25 people is such a massive job. I have 10 pounds of denatured lean turkey, 3 hyoooooge sirloin steaks, and kitchen FULL of tapas. I am sweating my behind off!!!!!

It is a huge undertaking! Ive cooked for 100's before, talk about stress!!!!