whats wrong with spreading the wealth?

[AMFBB]

We can talk when you start working for your money, become very successful from very hard and strenuous work, and then have it taken away from you more than others because you became successful..

Sounds so American....

You make it sound like Obama is going to take every single dollar of your father's money. He isn't. You're being melodramatic

And I work for my money, though I am lucky enough to have a wealthy family. I would not have a problem with supporting my great country through taxation, no. I understand your point, but I think given the conditions of our country, it might be necessary to give a kick start to the lower sectors of our economy.

Booo hooo. Cry me a river.

You are literally ignoring my argument completely in favor of a childish insult. It's a shame you're allowed to vote.

[boilermaker06]

Spreading the wealth can absolutely suck a dik. There is no reason that people who work their ass off should have to pay EXTRA money to provide for people who don't work. Why the fuk should people be PUNISHED for working harder? I fuking hate when people complain about fat cat CEO's. Do you know why they are rich? Because they worked their ass off and made a successful business. Why punish someone for being a better business man? Do you realize who EMPLOYS the middle class? LARGE CORPORATIONS. These CEO's might be making money, but they are also providing jobs for you dumbass high school drop outs suckin on welfare checks.

This is America, not a socialist. If you don't wanna work for your money, get the fuk out.

fukin freeloaders always lookin for a free ride.

[svper2002]

[bearfan34201]

You make it sound like Obama is going to take every single dollar of your father's money. He isn't. You're being melodramatic

And I work for my money, though I am lucky enough to have a wealthy family. I would not have a problem with supporting my great country through taxation, no. I understand your point, but I think given the conditions of our country, it might be necessary to give a kick start to the lower sectors of our economy.



You are literally ignoring my argument completely in favor of a childish insult. It's a shame you're allowed to vote.

Totally agree on taxation But the guy who makes 250 grand, has 2 kids in college hes trying to pay off, a mortgage and car payments. When the hell did he become rich?

I can see a few million. But 250,000? Give me a fukin break.

[7Happy7]

Spreading the wealth can absolutely suck a dik. There is no reason that people who work their ass off should have to pay EXTRA money to provide for people who don't work. Why the fuk should people be PUNISHED for working harder? I fuking hate when people complain about fat cat CEO's. Do you know why they are rich? Because they worked their ass off and made a successful business. Why punish someone for being a better business man? Do you realize who EMPLOYS the middle class? LARGE CORPORATIONS. These CEO's might be making money, but they are also providing jobs for you dumbass high school drop outs suckin on welfare checks.

This is America, not a socialist. If you don't wanna work for your money, get the fuk out.

fukin freeloaders always lookin for a free ride.

someone who works 110% from upper/middle/lower class wont all end up in the same place. THe guy from the lower must work 300% harder and with some luck and right networking he might end up doing fairly well. But statisically he wont and just cuz he ends up in alower position doesnt mean he didnt work as hard as you. But hey, life aint fair and you're right this is not a socialist

[willip]

Nowhere in the constitution was the federal Government to be given so much power. It is not the role of the Federal Government to provide food, housing, and healthcare to everybody. (Then the Government enables you to live without working and you have no incentive to work).

People much too often forget that it is not the Government's job to steal money from someone to hand it to others. The bottom 40% of people DO NOT pay any taxes. This means that money is seized from someone to hand it to somebody flat out, not in a tax cut but literally handed.

You work for what is yours, you donate what you want, you live how you want. That is your morals, your life, and your choice. Choice is the key word here. Somebody making 20,000$ a year has the same say in someone who makes 1,000,000 dollars a year as that person that makes 1 mil a year. This is not fair. Everyone will vote to take more money from people that make more then them. The federal government needs to stay out of our lives more. The founders of this country did not have a dream for the Government to do everything (or anything) for anybody.

And I am by no means rich, my father makes $50,000 a year. So do not preach to me anything, as I am in the bottom 40%. He does not want a single penny from anybody, just to keep as much as he can with what he makes.

[captainhorseboy]

the way i see it is there needs to be balance

taxes in and of themselves are supposed to be used to fund the greater good of society, the key is to find that balanced level that can help society as a whole go forward.

putting taxes towards the improvement of a school is great, and admirable, but does not always work if people resist that helping hand, just as giving a tax break to the high earners does not help if they dont put some of that money back into society and businesses.

it is a slippery slope to socialism, but the selfishness of staunch capitalism does in a way tear at the idea of a symbiotic society.

think of tribes back in the day, everyone contributing. thats an ideal, and something to push for, but not totally realistic.

[jackamo2887]

Because our country is in an economic recession and you won't have to give any money up unless you make more than 250,000 dollars a year. If you make that much, and you're crying about helping our middle/lower class, then you can go **** yourself.

Obama will raise the capital dividends tax..I dont make over 250 a year but I have lots of my income come from stocks, bonds and funds..SO YES MY TAXES WILL GO UP.

Yet people buy into the lies.

[boilermaker06]

someone who works 110% from upper/middle/lower class wont all end up in the same place. THe guy from the lower must work 300% harder and with some luck and right networking he might end up doing fairly well. But statisically he wont and just cuz he ends up in alower position doesnt mean he didnt work as hard as you. But hey, life aint fair and you're right this is not a socialist

nah dude i disagree
this is the land of opportunity. Dog Eat Dog. Anybody can get a world class education in America. There is no reason you can't climb the ladder. My dad came from lower-middle class and is now VP of a fortune 500. My best friends dad was smart as hell but didn't have that much money. Started as a bagger at Kroger and eventually moved up to a corporate buyer banking good dough. There is no reason that anybody in this country can't do well for themselves. You're either not smart enough or don't work hard enough, and I'm not cutting extra money out of my paycheck to provide for either of those.

If someone can give me a legitimate reason to punish smart/hard workers who have performed better than the average competition, I'd love to hear it. America is a mixed economy, there's no excuse to complain about your salary. If you don't like it, do something about it, but don't try to fuk over the ones who out-played you.

[jackal337]

???

is it because your gonna have to shell out money to help the poor?

Go jerk off to a picture of Stalin you socialist.

[TestosteronePL]

cuz some ppl are in the red and the ones in the green will lose out if they were to trade.



sea wat i did there?

[user34566548717114]

do you know how much insurance is on a lambo??? If I'm only making like 300k a year getting a ferrari is already gonna be a stretch I don't need the government picking my pocket so I can't keep up with my oil changes

[Deja]

let me guess, the one who is raising capital gains tax? lawl. rich people will take their money/business elsewhere (all the rich peoples fault!) -- both will add to deficit, either will result in no benefit to you from increase in tax dollars (none of which would go to ie community/schools)

[java568]

the way i see it is there needs to be balance

taxes in and of themselves are supposed to be used to fund the greater good of society, the key is to find that balanced level that can help society as a whole go forward.

putting taxes towards the improvement of a school is great, and admirable, but does not always work if people resist that helping hand, just as giving a tax break to the high earners does not help if they dont put some of that money back into society and businesses.

it is a slippery slope to socialism, but the selfishness of staunch capitalism does in a way tear at the idea of a symbiotic society.

think of tribes back in the day, everyone contributing. thats an ideal, and something to push for, but not totally realistic.

strong communism

[Omavi]

YES!!

Not to mention poor people also have affirmitive action on their side. WHAT ELSE DO THEY NEED?

3.5% of students get into colleges due to affirmitive action on their side that doesnt mean nothing

Booo hooo. Cry me a river.

easy to say this in your position but karma is a b!tch hopefully you lose your job, your house, and you have kids then you can feel what the poor feel

[Phil2009]

cuz some ppl are in the red and the ones in the green will lose out if they were to trade.



sea wat i did there?

[JACKIECHANFAN]

Obama is no where near a socialist. Mindless retards just repeat that he is again, and again, and again to try and justify their ignorance.

Socialism- Fundamentally means that the government dictates the prices of goods and services to try and create even opportunities for all social strata.

Obama- Does not advocate this.

Try again douche bags. Vote for Palin the creationist.

Rofl, retard. You should do more research on Obama.

[SpiderSense]

rewards lazy people

so if you're not rich you're lazy?

News flash, a construction worker is working a whole lot more than some fat bald prick behind a desk.

[Omavi]

nah dude i disagree
this is the land of opportunity. Dog Eat Dog. Anybody can get a world class education in America. There is no reason you can't climb the ladder. My dad came from lower-middle class and is now VP of a fortune 500. My best friends dad was smart as hell but didn't have that much money. Started as a bagger at Kroger and eventually moved up to a corporate buyer banking good dough. There is no reason that anybody in this country can't do well for themselves. You're either not smart enough or don't work hard enough, and I'm not cutting extra money out of my paycheck to provide for either of those.

If someone can give me a legitimate reason to punish smart/hard workers who have performed better than the average competition, I'd love to hear it. America is a mixed economy, there's no excuse to complain about your salary. If you don't like it, do something about it, but don't try to fuk over the ones who out-played you.

your father and his friend are the lucky ones, life doesnt always turn out like it did for your father

[captainhorseboy]

strong communism

well ideally it'd be awesome if we all just wanted to do this


i think jesus might be a dirty commie btw

[java568]

so if you're not rich you're lazy?

News flash, a construction worker is working a whole lot more than some fat bald prick behind a desk.

News flash: maybe that construction worker should have worked a tad bit harder in high school then.

[allLiving]

everyone wants to be self sufficient

you know how the job market is, its not easy to just get a job, i personally have been searching since june for a job and yet have no luck

and i applied to over 10 places (im 17)

Wrong again. Not everyone wans to be self-sufficient. Believe it or not, a TON of people want a free-ride through life. Majority of them are democrat.

[Phil2009]

so if you're not rich you're lazy?

News flash, a construction worker is working a whole lot more than some fat bald prick behind a desk.

Just because you're working harder physically it doesnt mean you're working harder.

Its simple, the better your education is, the more likely you end up with a higher paying job.

Its not about laziness now, its more about laziness (or lack of intelligence) back when you were in high school and/or university.

[JACKIECHANFAN]

so if you're not rich you're lazy?

News flash, a construction worker is working a whole lot more than some fat bald prick behind a desk.

And if he doesn't get paid as that bald pricks, it's the construction worker's problem, not the other guy. No one forced him to become a construction worker or for him to choose that field of work. Especially since construction is a seasonal / regional job.

[boilermaker06]

your father and his friend are the lucky ones, life doesnt always turn out like it did for your father

getting an MBA from Univ of Chicago isn't luck, it's a ****load of hard work.

keep tryin

[pete0428]

For people that have only known poverty, are uneducated, and forgotten by our government, "money management" is the last thing on their minds. How ignorant are you?

so how about instead of giving them free money that WE earned...we give them a lesson in money management and they earn **** for themselves

[SpiderSense]

News flash: maybe that construction worker should have worked a tad bit harder in high school then.

So who's lazier then it's a simple question. The man working behind the desk, or the man working construction?

Who's working harder for their money?

The construction worker is working significantly harder, for less money.

I'm just saying it's pretty ignorant to say that so and so isn't rich because their lazy.

And to add to that, most people that have money are born into it. My parents can't afford to send me to college, so I would have to go on my own, accumulating debt all the while. Most families tend to work like this:

My dad worked this job, and so now he enabled me to work an even better job than he had. That comes in the form of money saved for college, or having connections, better education.

[Leonydus]

so i guess if obama wins we can just say fuk workin, quit our jobs and start getting our girls pregnant for the foodstamps and welfare

[boilermaker06]

So who's lazier then it's a simple question. The man working behind the desk, or the man working construction?

Who's working harder for their money?

The construction worker is working significantly harder, for less money.

I'm just saying it's pretty ignorant to say that so and so isn't rich because their lazy.

And to add to that, most people that have money are born into it. My parents can't afford to send me to college, so I would have to go on my own, accumulating debt all the while. Most families tend to work like this:

My dad worked this job, and so now he enabled me to work an even better job than he had. That comes in the form of money saved for college, or having connections, better education.

the only reason the construction worker has a job is because of the guy behind the desk orchestrating it.

[Phil2009]

the only reason the construction worker has a job is because of the guy behind the desk orchestrating it.

Agreed.

And about the college thing, in the US, do you guys have to pay upfront straight away?

Cos here in Australia we have the option to not pay a thing and then when we start making enough money ($50k and over) they take a small percentage.