Whats the diff??

[Hogwash]

Just a quick ?.What is the diff between pull ups and pulldowns?What diff muscles does it work?TIA,Hog

[Lager1]

Pullups are better, althought they both work similar muscles. Go with pullups, its a lost art.

[forcefedfreak]

Just a quick ?.What is the diff between pull ups and pulldowns?What diff muscles does it work?TIA,Hog

It all depends on what grip you use, if you are doing pull-downs behind or in front of the head etc...

They use a lot of very similar muscles, but I'm a big fan of exercises where the whole body moves and the hands or feet stay fixed as opposed to the other way around. I typically do pull-ups with a wide grip, and then I'll do some narrow grip underhanded pull-downs.

[Hogwash]

I was looking at an old article in MD and Gustavo had a back work out like this.
Chin-up(wide grip)
Deads
BB-rows
Seated cable rows(V-bar)
Front cable pulldowns(wide grip)
Close grip cable pulldowns(v-bar)
Underhand-grip pulldowns

I think this should work.What do u guys think?

[The Real Deal]

I think you'll die.

Stimulate not annihilate

[Tyciol]

Pullups are better, althought they both work similar muscles. Go with pullups, its a lost art.

I think pulldowns are just as good if you use more weight, Quasimodo did pulldowns.

[Defiant1]

Just a quick ?.What is the diff between pull ups and pulldowns?What diff muscles does it work?TIA,Hog

Chins use more neural energy than pulldowns.

Chins will give you better size results.

Pulldowns are good also, just not as good as chins for pure size.

[Tyciol]

This doesn't make any sense. 'Neural energy'? Wtf. Whatever is heavier makes more size. Your bodyweight+added for the chin, or the effective weight of the pulldown weight with any possible pulley mechanisms taken into account.

Why don't people actually try and figure out the differences? For one, I think you might be able to get a better stretch on a pullup bar because with a lat pulldown, you might not have to since you do need to be able to grab it after sitting down. Or that there might be some slight difference in the arc you pull in between the two since in a pullup your knees usually point more down whereas in the pulldown they're more forward since you're sitting.

[Hogwash]

I think you'll die.

Stimulate not annihilate

I almost do the same thing now or have in the past.Just not the BB rows,but I have done them.ive done deads,other then that ive done them all,just not all of them in the same work out.Thanks for the info though.I'm not thrashing you.But I do apprectiate your info.Hog

[I dont work at Ballys]

your questions already been answered, but just to add- since pulldowns allow you to lock your legs in, you can pile on more weight, which is usefull if you dont have access to a belt for your chins.

[MoGeaYuglay]

This doesn't make any sense. 'Neural energy'? Wtf. Whatever is heavier makes more size. Your bodyweight+added for the chin, or the effective weight of the pulldown weight with any possible pulley mechanisms taken into account.

Why don't people actually try and figure out the differences? For one, I think you might be able to get a better stretch on a pullup bar because with a lat pulldown, you might not have to since you do need to be able to grab it after sitting down. Or that there might be some slight difference in the arc you pull in between the two since in a pullup your knees usually point more down whereas in the pulldown they're more forward since you're sitting.

Closed v. Open Chained exercises: Look them up.