My doctor gave me the choice of either testosterone injections or the skin gel. which should i go with and why? btw, im 36 with low t (110).
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Thread: Testosterone replacement
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08-28-2012, 06:51 PM #1
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08-28-2012, 07:04 PM #2
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08-29-2012, 05:46 AM #3
A few months ago I was feeling crappy (turned out to be multiple causes, among them was a low testosterone level- within the "normal" range, but near the lower end). My GP gave me a few shots of testosterone prior to precribing the gel. While it's not magic, I simply feel better all around, for the most part. Just don't let your wife or kids touch the gel or they'll get hairy knucles.
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08-29-2012, 06:09 AM #4
In before the lock. While I think testosterone usage should be a point of discussion here, the powers that be will not allow it. I would suggest the OP check out other forums which allow free and open talk about this topic.
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08-29-2012, 04:25 PM #5
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08-30-2012, 11:53 AM #9
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08-30-2012, 05:58 PM #15
http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/114/1/282.full
Some scary things to think about if you have kids. Also....might not be too good for the wife either. One case were transfer happened off bed sheets.
Saw another study that showed transfer THROUGH a t-shirt even after 4 hours. T-shirt only cut down on transference by 40%. Some scarry sh!t to say the least.RAW lifts
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08-30-2012, 06:03 PM #16
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The gel is ok. It's tedious and you have to do some planning at times. For instance, if you are going swimming, you don't want to put it on right before you do or it'll just wash off before you absorb it. You do have to be careful to stay covered especially when it's fresh. I've used the gel for a bit.
Haven't used the shots, but have discussed them with my endo. The problem with the shot is that the levels are high right after the shot and fade over time. You go from a raging sex lunatic to almost nothing at the end of the month.
My endo did say that he prefers to prescribe the monthly patch. It is a steadier dose and easier than the gel.
Just remember that if you go on, it's a choice for life. Once your body stops producing test, it's all over and you're dependent on the supplements.
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08-31-2012, 02:24 AM #17
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08-31-2012, 12:57 PM #18
I receive a shot in my hip once a week of 180mg. I've had good results from it and over time levels build up in tissue. When I'm not on TRT my levels are right about 400 and when on TRT they are around 950 which is a significant difference and I feel noticeably better. It's also much easier to stay lean and build muscle. This isn't to say its the equivalent of a steroid cycle, but basically I feel the same as
I did at 21 meaning if I train hard and eat clean I can stay lean, where as before it was almost impossible to get good results. I could get lean, but I'd get skinny in the process.
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08-31-2012, 02:08 PM #19
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08-31-2012, 03:12 PM #20
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I started off on the patch, down side, you need to change locations each application, which leaves read round red patchs everywhere, they fade afte a couple days. not so bad if you where a shirt all the time, they also tend to come off with excersise, once you start sweating and your shirt is rubbing on it it will come off. Im now on Androgel, it dries quickly, works well, but you need to keep it covered, sucks to have to take a shower every time you want to have sex, kinda of a mood killer, I also do alot of hunting where Im out in the bush for a week or more, taking washing and applying it in the field sucks. I have my next 6th month appointment with my doc next week, will do blood work as always, but Im going to ask for the injections, think its a little more suited to my life style
Depending on how low your T was(is) you can come off, the problem in the beginning is your natural test is shut down, meaning your body is NOT producing it any longer. Say your normal test is somewhere between 250 to 400 and your willing to deal with the problems you had before you started TRT, you can come off, it will take a few weeks say 4 to 8 for your nuts to start producing again, your doc can prescribe some things to help restart your test production and bring it back faster.
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08-31-2012, 07:04 PM #21
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08-31-2012, 09:06 PM #22anonymousGuest
gel is straight up garbage imo. Axiron if slathered on 4 x a day will only give you the T-levels of an 80 year old and the others aren't much better if you're looking for the highest end of 'normal' range (and why on earth wouldn't you?). I'm also impressed this hasn't been locked since they usually dont last a day.
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09-01-2012, 07:14 AM #23
Another idea you might look at that is asking the doctor to test your vitamin D3 levels. If you work indoors most of the day, as most of us do, chances are your D3 levels are low which in turn is associated with low testosterone levels.
It takes a membership to see all of the article, but the write up is on a study showing taking vitamin D3 helped raise testosterone.
"Association of hypogonadism with vitamin D status"
http://blog.vitamindcouncil.org/2011...amin-d-status/
From Dr. Cannell's sight:
"...Finally, vitamin D boosts testosterone levels! In a randomized controlled trial, 3,300 IU/day of vitamin D increased testosterone levels by 30-40%. In men, testosterone is important for reproduction tissues like the testis and prostate, and it's also important for key masculine features like increased muscle, bone mass, and the growth of body hair."
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09-01-2012, 09:53 AM #24
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09-01-2012, 10:18 AM #25
For once an on-track T conversation and I don't want to turn it sideways.. Is there such a thing as being too low for an over the counter supplement to help? Seems like the gel, patch and shots all have pretty big hazards or draw backs. has anyone tried the OC stuff with positive blood test results not just the "seat of the pants" feeling?
BTW.. D3 supplements have had a huge impact on me. very positive and now taken evey day. (not a milk drinker and work in-doors)
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09-01-2012, 10:23 AM #26
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