Dorian Yates Approved� Pro-Recover Review

**Blap Blaow** · 10-22-2005, 01:41 PM

Dorian Yates Approved� Pro-Recover Review

Dorian Yates signed a deal with Chemical Nutrition a few years back to develop and endorse a product line. The result was Dorian Yates Approved�. I have tried a couple of these products in the past (gotta to support the Brits!) and this will be a little review on one of them- Dorian Yates Approved� Pro-Recover (Post-Workout Adaptogenic/Recovery Formula).

TASTE:

Chocolate- Not bad at all. With being a post-workout shake the directions suggest it is best to mix with water, rather than milk. However this does lead to a degree of chalkiness with the shake. Surprisingly not watery (not to be confused with being thin) the shake doesn�t taste too bad. Not overly sweet, despite nearly 50g sugar. If you�re expecting solid chocolate tasting protein powder you�ll be disappointed. If you�re expecting a palatable pseudo-chocolate you�ll like this just fine!

Strawberry- To be honest this is a bad imitation of a bad imitation of strawberry. Tastes a little like strawberry bubble gum. Has the some of the same slight chalkiness of the chocolate, although less so. Pretty sweet too. I found this to actually taste sweeter than the chocolate although the main ingredients are identical. Despite not really tasting great I got used the flavour after 3 or 4 servings and actually grew to love it.

Both flavours mix to create a very thin shake in water. Very easy to drink immediately post-workout.

MIXABILTY:

With a shaker bottle this stuff mixes instantly. No lumps or clumps to speak of.

Since I took it immediately post workout I never tried it without an mixer bottle. In my opinion there shouldn�t be any problems with mixing without a shaker bottle.

OVERALL/ THOUGHTS

This is an extremely expensive choice for post-workout nutrition- especially considering each container lasts for only 16 serving (1 month for me on a 4 day split). IF you wanted high HI carbohydrates immediately post workout I would recommend blending your own from bulk powders and resorting to dextrose and maltodextrin over glucose. Unfortunately this is an easy choice for those with little comprehension of the importance of pre-workout nutrition.

Taste isn�t great, although does definitely grow on you. The servings are sparing on protein (less than 25g) which is extremely poor in my opinion. There are some interesting choices of ingredients (particularly the Rhodiola Rhosea and Ginkgo Bilboa extract) which may have made for an interesting purchase however the fact that the main ingredient is glucose does not endear me to this product whatsoever. This is compounded by the huge price tag.

To be honest I wanted to like this product. I think the only thing I ended up liking about it was that it satisfied my sugar cravings.

Chocolate: 5/10
Strawberry: 4/10

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Scientific research shows us that the period immediately following training may be the most important time for potentiating the results. This is the key time to intercept the result-limiting anti-catabolic processes initiated by your intense workouts.

Yet, through inconvenience or habit, many bodybuilders fail to take advantage of this critical window of opportunity. Post-workout nutrition is all about precision; too much protein and you will induce metabolic acidosis, thereby blunting any anabolic response and elevating catabolic hormones. If too "complex" a source of protein is used, synthesis will not be fast enough to make the difference.

Pro Recover is the long-awaited response to this situation. Specific amounts of high glycemic carbohydrates create the necessary insulin spike to deal with the catabolic hormone, cortisol. Easily absorbed di and tripeptide amino acids combine to maximize the anabolic drive process, rapidly restoring positive nitrogen balance.

High concentrations of Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAAs) replenish a depleted amino acid pool and delay fatigue between regular bouts of exertion, making this also the ideal product for the competition environment (e.g. track and field, powerlifting, strongman, etc). Antioxidants act to limit the muscle damage induced by post-workout free radicals.

Finally, the adaptogenic herbs Rhodiola rosea and Ginkgo biloba are included, commonly employed by soviet coaches to lower the systemic stress of high training workloads in Olympic athletes

Recommended Use: Mix 2 scoops (80g) in 400-500ml of cold water with a shaker bottle or spoon stir. We do not recommend usage of a blender as it may cause excessive foaming.

Ingredients: Glucose, sucrose, hydrolysed whey, whey protein isolate, cocoa powder, chocolate flavour, rhodiola rosea extract, ginkgo biloba extract, vitamin C, xanthan gum, vitamin E. Contains no artificial sweeteners.

Nutritional Information

Serving Size: 2 Scoops 80g
Servings per container: 16

100g contains
Per 80g serving

Energy

1,549KJ and 371kcal

1240KJ and 297 kcal

Protein

29.47g

23.58g

Carbohydrate

60.56g

48.45g

-of which sugars

60.56g

48.45g

Fat

1.31g

1.05g

-of which saturates

1.04g

0.83g

Fibre

0.00g

Sodium

Trace

Rhodiola Rosea

531mg

425mg

Vitamin C

312mg

250mg

Ginkgo Biloba

312mg

250mg

Vitamin E

12.5mg

10mg

Dorian Yates Approved� Homepage

**user128333334** · 10-22-2005, 03:05 PM

So basically you didn't see much on the gain side of things then? So not really worth the money???

**Blap Blaow** · 10-22-2005, 03:15 PM

Good question.

Yes I did see some gains, but I was bulking anyway. I am seeing much BETTER gains now with my homemade blend -maltodextrin/dextrose/whey. Buy the ingredients in bulk and mixed myself.

If you have good pre-workout nutrition (for example a complex carb and protein source up to an hour before you train) you don't even need a sugary post-workout meal as the protein should be entering your system towards the end of your workout anyways. Oats and whey is a VERY popular choice here post-workout.

As much as I think Dorian Yates is a legend this product is definately NOT worth the money.

**cakedonkey** · 10-22-2005, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Blap Blaow

maltodextrin/dextrose/whey. Buy the

Swap malto/dextrose for oats and I have a feeling you would see less fat gains.

Thanks for the review.

**user128333334** · 10-22-2005, 03:35 PM

My mix:

40g Maltodextrin
40g Whey
40g Dextrose

1 litre of water

Best/cheapest PWO shake

But Dorian is a legend, much love Dorian

I mite buy pro-joint Dorian

plz dnt hurt me

**Blap Blaow** · 10-22-2005, 03:36 PM

no probs bro.

I agree, malto/dex/whey isn't neccessary at all but I'm stuck firmly in that camp (for now). I'll probably end up taking my own (and yours and everyone elses!) advice and go for oats/whey pwo but for the moment I have a 1kilo container of the stuff sitting infront of me waiting to go

**user128333334** · 10-22-2005, 03:39 PM

Guess it's just a matter of finding out what works for you and the only way is trial and error

For example try 4 weeks of training with Malto/Dext/Whey analyse results

Then try 4 weeks training with Oats etc PWO analyse results

Think I might do that if I get a spare 8 weeks!!!

**Blap Blaow** · 10-22-2005, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Toxic04

My mix:

40g Maltodextrin
40g Whey
40g Dextrose

1 litre of water

Best/cheapest PWO shake

But Dorian is a legend, much love Dorian

I mite buy pro-joint Dorian

plz dnt hurt me

actually similar to mine, although I like a LOT less carbs and sip over an hour or so.

Just checked out Pro-Joint- that Dorian likes his herbs dosn't he?!! Still cheaper than the Pro-Recover. What's up with your joints/muscles that you'd need that at 18 though?

(and yes, Dorian is a legend!)

**user128333334** · 10-22-2005, 03:42 PM

I was going to say Blap... you PWO shake looked identical to mine and Pre-workout was similar carbs etc!! And we from UK bro!!!!! MUCH LOVE BROTHER

btw drink first like 500ml immediately.. sip the rest over an hour

damn exaclty the same!! Have u bin 2 ABC Bodybuilding or something!? That's what they recommend you see!

**user128333334** · 10-22-2005, 03:44 PM

Pro Joint was a bit of a joke. I don't think i'd be purchasing that... It just sounded good for recovery etc... not that I have bad joints etc..

But i'll survive

- ICE, REST, FOOD, JACUZZI etc

**Blap Blaow** · 10-22-2005, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Toxic04

I was going to say Blap... you PWO shake looked identical to mine and Pre-workout was similar carbs etc!! And we from UK bro!!!!! MUCH LOVE BROTHER

back at ya bro! It's shame Dorian's stuff is only really popular in the UK- some of it's pretty solid.

Where do you get your supplies from? No outside links allowed here but I can say I get my protein from an English .co.uk company!

**Blap Blaow** · 10-22-2005, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Toxic04

Pro Joint was a bit of a joke.

thank God for that!

**user128333334** · 10-22-2005, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Blap Blaow

back at ya bro! It's shame Dorian's stuff is only really popular in the UK- some of it's pretty solid.

Where do you get your supplies from? No outside links allowed here but I can say I get my protein from an English .co.uk company!

If you can't post it here.. i'll PM it to you

Check your PM's brother

I recently tried Dorian's protein flapjack bars.... they tasted horrible.. Apparently even Dorian dosen't eat them!!!!!!!! YUCK...

**Blap Blaow** · 10-22-2005, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Toxic04

If you can't post it here.. i'll PM it to you

Check your PM's brother

I recently tried Dorian's protein flapjack bars.... they tasted horrible.. Apparently even Dorian dosen't eat them!!!!!!!! YUCK...

urghhh- I though the bold subtleties in my post were enough!!!!!!!

You know what- I actually liked the Choc-Orange bar when I had it months and months back! Don't hate me!!!!

**user128333334** · 10-22-2005, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Blap Blaow

urghhh- I though the bold subtleties in my post were enough!!!!!!!

You know what- I actually liked the Choc-Orange bar when I had it months and months back! Don't hate me!!!!

Yeah yeah.. i got the bold bit!!! lolll

Hmm might give the orange/choc a go one day.. Made my own the other day.. there abit peanut buttery/sweet though

When I bought the flapjacks it was choc flavour.. maybe choc/orange might change my opinion.

In general though most protein bars taste sick man

**user128333334** · 10-22-2005, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Toxic04

Yeah yeah.. i got the bold bit!!! lolll

Hmm might give the orange/choc a go one day.. Made my own the other day.. there abit peanut buttery/sweet though

When I bought the flapjacks it was choc flavour.. maybe choc/orange might change my opinion.

In general though most protein bars taste sick man

Oh and I orderd from the same company before you know.... the one in bold!

**cakedonkey** · 10-22-2005, 11:51 PM

On a side note it strikes me as kind of weird that they would include Rhodiola Rosea and Ginko Biloba in there.

**Blap Blaow** · 10-23-2005, 05:18 AM

I thought that too.

The side of the container say; "Finally, the Soviet adaptogens Rhodiola RoseaRhodiola Rosea and Ginkgo Biloba are added to lower systemic stress."

Rhodiola Rosea is supposed to help with CNS stress. From what I read the evidence on Ginkgo Biloba's effectiveness on cognative abilty is largely based around anecotal evidence and tradition- but I'm not an expert on herbs. Probably just there to justify some of the price.

**siegler** · 10-23-2005, 12:02 PM

Just how much is inside your CrEE ? how many grams/caps/tablets ??

**Blap Blaow** · 10-23-2005, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by siegler

Just how much is inside your CrEE ? how many grams/caps/tablets ??

I have no idea what a CrEE is, but the container has;

Originally Posted by Blap Blaow

Nutritional Information

Serving Size: 2 Scoops 80g
Servings per container: 16

which is a grand total of 1280g. There's only one size of container available and it's a powder, not pills or tabs.

If I havn't covered the 'CrEE' let me know exactly what you mean.

**1-Testosterone** · 11-07-2006, 03:46 AM

Blap, how often do you use ProPeptide?

**Blap Blaow** · 11-07-2006, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by 1-Testosterone

Blap, how often do you use ProPeptide?

I've never used ProPeptide, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it if bulk MPC wasn't so cheap and reasily available over here. I've never seen a single bad review.

Looking at this review again over a year later I may very well go back and have another look at Pro-Recover- I think I was overly harsh on it, especially considering the review was retrospective having used Pro-Rcover a few months before I even joined bb.com.

**retro_roots** · 11-07-2006, 06:59 AM

If your going to spend the money on a premixed PWO formula, you might as well get something like Anator/Myozene. But even those can be replaced with very good bulk products use.

Personally, I'm fairly strongly rooted in the Fast Carbs PWO camp, ABC style. I wish I could find the thread Hal started about WO nutrition, a ton of good info and theroy there.

**HalleluYAH** · 02-04-2007, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by retro_roots

I wish I could find the thread Hal started about WO nutrition, a ton of good info and theroy there.

Are you referring to this...

Palatinose, Dextrose, Maltodextrin or Sucrose; Best choice pre/during/postWO?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=860407

**retro_roots** · 02-04-2007, 03:18 PM

I probably was...

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