Thermogenic Thyrotabs

**flexap00** · 10-04-2006, 10:53 PM

Thermogenic Thyrotabs from Gasperi Nutrition.

Has anyone tried them? And someone please explain how they work and will they shut down my thyroid? I am currently also taking 3 degree burn also from Gasperi Nutrition, will that be over kill? Oh and Sasamine....can you tell I really really want to get rid of this fat?

Help, all feedbacks are welcome! An proper explaination on how they work will be even better.

Has anyone tried thoes products?

**in10city** · 10-05-2006, 01:25 AM

See these...

**gresh** · 10-05-2006, 05:21 AM

Sorry I dont know the science behind them, but through my experience, I didnt notice any thyroid shutdown post cycle and I stacked with another burner similar to 3rd Degree w/o any problems. I'm still undecided on Sesamin as a fatloss supplement, I've never taken it alone so its a little hard to judge.

**mass_chaos** · 10-05-2006, 05:38 AM

I too don't know the science behind Thyrotabs but I used a one month cycle and I loved the results. I stacked it with a fatburner. I kept my protein pretty high, fats moderate and carbs low.With this combo, the bodyfat fell off. I'm no where near contest ready but I am much better than I was before. No noticeable side effects yet. I give the Thyrotabs a thumbs up!

**flexap00** · 10-05-2006, 08:51 AM

Sweet! Thanks for the feeback guys, I am going to take 2 weeks off 3 degree burn and try the stack with that, the thyroid tabs and novadex xt with some sesamine.

Of course the protein, glutamine and creatine.

Now does anybody know how they work? I seriously do not want to enounter any thyroid problems down the line

**flexap00** · 10-05-2006, 08:52 AM

BTW Va_new_guy and gersh, do you guys have before and after pics of when you took the thyroid tab?

**JV@Gaspari** · 10-05-2006, 05:37 PM

Here is a great 7 week stack...

**user25891** · 10-05-2006, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by JV@Gaspari

Here is a great 7 week stack...

Wow! Strong Palumboism. I had no idea she got that out of shape! Stack is good though, thats for sure!

Jason

**Endocrine** · 10-05-2006, 06:09 PM

I would certainly think that anything mimicking thyroid would send a negative response to the thyroid response centers in the brain.
Now, looking at this mysterious ingredient (3, 3P-iodo-4(4hydroxyphenoxy)-L-phenylalanine... im a bit dismayed but have a general understanding of what the attempt is. Correct me if I'm wrong, but phenylalanine is a precursor to catacholamine neurotransmitters like norepinepherine and epinepherine which although, can excite the centeral nervous system, do only so for short bouts and are quickly excreted and metabolized by the body.
So, introducing phenylalanine with an iodine attached into the body, I can see the some purpose but would like further explanation.. As well as some explanation on why Thyrotab is retailing for $89.99

**Zachattack43** · 10-05-2006, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Endocrine

I would certainly think that anything mimicking thyroid would send a negative response to the thyroid response centers in the brain.
Now, looking at this mysterious ingredient (3, 3P-iodo-4(4hydroxyphenoxy)-L-phenylalanine... im a bit dismayed but have a general understanding of what the attempt is. Correct me if I'm wrong, but phenylalanine is a precursor to catacholamine neurotransmitters like norepinepherine and epinepherine which although, can excite the centeral nervous system, do only so for short bouts and are quickly excreted and metabolized by the body.
So, introducing phenylalanine with an iodine attached into the body, I can see the some purpose but would like further explanation.. As well as some explanation on why Thyrotab is retailing for $89.99

I wish I could help you on the science aspect of thyrotabs, but i can help you with the price. The price is MSRP, meaning if you buy it off gaspari nutrition website it would be 89.99 (there is a special of 69.99 right now), but bb.com has much lower:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gn/therm.html at 53.99

Why does the gaspari store sell it at such a price that is so they do not alienate their distributors and retail stores, because if that happens then they will not want to carry the Gaspari line and Gaspari would go down the drain after violating the relationship. This is the case with well over 99% of companies also.

**Zachattack43** · 10-05-2006, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by JV@Gaspari

Here is a great 7 week stack...

I met her, she was in tiptop shape and man i would not wanna mess with her. She could snap me.

I will however try this stack on my next cutting cycle (when texas gets back up to 80 degrees after the short winter we will get

)

**Endocrine** · 10-05-2006, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by zachattack43

I wish I could help you on the science aspect of thyrotabs, but i can help you with the price. The price is MSRP, meaning if you buy it off gaspari nutrition website it would be 89.99 (there is a special of 69.99 right now), but bb.com has much lower:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gn/therm.html at 53.99

Why does the gaspari store sell it at such a price that is so they do not alienate their distributors and retail stores, because if that happens then they will not want to carry the Gaspari line and Gaspari would go down the drain after violating the relationship. This is the case with well over 99% of companies also.

Ok, thanks, I'm aware its available for less than suggested retail.
Now, my second question is, what are you doing representing Gaspari if you are unable to answer "scientific" questions about their products. At the least, you could have a generic response that Gaspari has issued.

**flexap00** · 10-05-2006, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by JV@Gaspari

Here is a great 7 week stack...

so according to this stack I should not be taking 3degree burn at the same time as the thyroid tabs but rather as a buffer of sort (almost like a short pct) when I lean off the tabs....does the 3degree burn help with making sure the thyroid is not out of wack after getting off the tab?

Will taking the two together be over kill? and will I need any type of pct at all? ( I realize that we are not talking about a steroid cycle here but I am concern with my throid being at optimal level) I just ordered the burn and tabs today along with novadex xt....any recommendation on how to take them?

I have my own theory but wouuld love to hear from others as well to make sure I got all bases covered, especially from someone who has tried the products.

Much thanks in advance!

**flexap00** · 10-06-2006, 09:10 PM

bump

**Endocrine** · 10-06-2006, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by flexap00

so according to this stack I should not be taking 3degree burn at the same time as the thyroid tabs but rather as a buffer of sort (almost like a short pct) when I lean off the tabs....does the 3degree burn help with making sure the thyroid is not out of wack after getting off the tab?

Will taking the two together be over kill? and will I need any type of pct at all? ( I realize that we are not talking about a steroid cycle here but I am concern with my throid being at optimal level) I just ordered the burn and tabs today along with novadex xt....any recommendation on how to take them?

I have my own theory but wouuld love to hear from others as well to make sure I got all bases covered, especially from someone who has tried the products.

Much thanks in advance!

Judging by your picture, I'd say there's absolutely no reason for you to tincker with anything involving your thyroid production. Hit a little more cardio and prior to that, study some further diet strategies.
Anything.... anything that messes with something involving the endocrine system has a chance of sending a negative feedback to your brain and thus its messenger glands, ie. thyroid.
Take it easy. That doesnt go without saying that Thyrotabs arent a quality product, but i'd still like to see what the rational and science behind this is. Afterall, this is the science board... so lets see some.

**flexap00** · 10-06-2006, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Endocrine

Judging by your picture, I'd say there's absolutely no reason for you to tincker with anything involving your thyroid production. Hit a little more cardio and prior to that, study some further diet strategies.
Anything.... anything that messes with something involving the endocrine system has a chance of sending a negative feedback to your brain and thus its messenger glands, ie. thyroid.
Take it easy. That doesnt go without saying that Thyrotabs arent a quality product, but i'd still like to see what the rational and science behind this is. Afterall, this is the science board... so lets see some.

I too am waiting to see some rational and science behind the thyrod tabs....someone please elaborate.

As for my pic, that was after months of dieting, I'm back up to fat ass status...ok not quite fat ass but I want to be shredded for once in my life

**DriverDan** · 10-07-2006, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by JV@Gaspari

Here is a great 7 week stack...

Oh come on. In the first pic she is doing everything possible to stick her gut out and in the 2nd she is doing exactly the opposite. Plus it says nothing about her diet and exercise over that 7 weeks. I'm sure those two things were the major factors in the fat reduction.

**flexap00** · 10-07-2006, 06:27 PM

so.......nobody on this forum knows anything about this thyroid tab or the science behind it? how about the cycle I described above....feedbacks?

**Kohen_Gadol** · 10-07-2006, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by DriverDan

Oh come on. In the first pic she is doing everything possible to stick her gut out and in the 2nd she is doing exactly the opposite. Plus it says nothing about her diet and exercise over that 7 weeks. I'm sure those two things were the major factors in the fat reduction.

Yeah, you're right. Neither of the products had anything to do with her success in dieting at all. Neither of them increased her metabolic rate, induced lipolysis, or suppressed her appetite. All before and after pictures are totally spurious. I am so happy you were able to point all this out for us.

BK

**Kohen_Gadol** · 10-07-2006, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by flexap00

so.......nobody on this forum knows anything about this thyroid tab or the science behind it? how about the cycle I described above....feedbacks?

I am not sure what it is you want to know that has not been addressed. The active is 1) active on its own and 2) a prohormone to T-3 and T-4.

Most of the "it'll shut your thyroid off and you'll be a fat feck" rhetoric is absolutely brotological in nature. If you follow the directions on the box, do not exceed dose or time on suggestions, you should be able to dump an additional 5-7 pounds of mostly fat above and beyond what you would normally lose.

No, if your diet sucks and you do not do any cardio, this is not a magic bullet. It's a nice "add on" to maximize the the amount of fat lost in a given time period. But without a smart, solid diet plan and a good training program, even Cytomel ain't gonna do much for you unless you eat a fistful of them.

I worked on this molecule for 7 years (since 98/99) and despite the garbage, non-sequitar rat studies that a competitor likes to throw up (rats have very different fat storage and metabolism patterns from humans) this stuff is very solid. I also have a rep for erring on the safe side of things.

Bottom line is - do your homework and think it over. This is a supplement for a more advanced person (or at least someone at the intermediate level). This is not a fat burner for your mom.

BK

**flexap00** · 10-07-2006, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Kohen_Gadol

I am not sure what it is you want to know that has not been addressed. The active is 1) active on its own and 2) a prohormone to T-3 and T-4.

Most of the "it'll shut your thyroid off and you'll be a fat feck" rhetoric is absolutely brotological in nature. If you follow the directions on the box, do not exceed dose or time on suggestions, you should be able to dump an additional 5-7 pounds of mostly fat above and beyond what you would normally lose.

No, if your diet sucks and you do not do any cardio, this is not a magic bullet. It's a nice "add on" to maximize the the amount of fat lost in a given time period. But without a smart, solid diet plan and a good training program, even Cytomel ain't gonna do much for you unless you eat a fistful of them.

I worked on this molecule for 7 years (since 98/99) and despite the garbage, non-sequitar rat studies that a competitor likes to throw up (rats have very different fat storage and metabolism patterns from humans) this stuff is very solid. I also have a rep for erring on the safe side of things.

Bottom line is - do your homework and think it over. This is a supplement for a more advanced person (or at least someone at the intermediate level). This is not a fat burner for your mom.

BK

Sweet! someone who actually worked on the product itself, nice!

My daily diet consist of 250 - 300 g of protein and around 100 - 200 g of cards, spread out between 5 - 6 meals.

Morning cardio an hour before 25 g of whey and 5 g of creatine, 5 g of glutamine in the morning follow immediately another 25 g of whey, 50 g of carbs, 5 g of creatine, 5 g of glutamine, multi and vit c, e and 1 g of sesamine.

then the remaining 200 - 250 g of protein and carbs spread out throught the day, 1 g of sesamine and 1 g of fish oil with each meal. 50 g of casine before bed.

For lifting days its similar except its after 2 meals of 50 g of protein and 50 g of carbs. With the additional supps.

3 days cardio, 2 days full body lifting.

Now I'm planning on doing this with the thryoid tabs, 3 degree burn and novadex xt toss in along with the standard multi, protein, c, e, sesamin, and glutamine...

What is your expert opinion on how I can best do this?

Many thanks!

**Kohen_Gadol** · 10-07-2006, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by flexap00

Now I'm planning on doing this with the thryoid tabs, 3 degree burn and novadex xt toss in along with the standard multi, protein, c, e, sesamin, and glutamine...

What is your expert opinion on how I can best do this?

Many thanks!

Follow the directions on the box/bottle. I'd start with 3DB for 10-14 days and then add in the NovX and TT as directed for another 30 or so. Sesamin and other good fats will help. Glutamine will make your wallet lighter.

BK

**panic66** · 10-07-2006, 08:53 PM

I should have bought some at the olympia

**flexap00** · 10-07-2006, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by panic66

I should have bought some at the olympia

I'm following your boy's halodrol liquidgel log, I'm jealous that you just even got to go to the olympia....do you have any suggestion in regards to the thyroid tabs along with the novadex xt and 3degree burn?

**panic66** · 10-07-2006, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by flexap00

I'm following your boy's halodrol liquidgel log, I'm jealous that you just even got to go to the olympia....do you have any suggestion in regards to the thyroid tabs along with the novadex xt and 3degree burn?

Sorry I have barely looked into thyrotabs so i cant give any suggestions

**uhockey** · 10-08-2006, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by Kohen_Gadol

I am not sure what it is you want to know that has not been addressed. The active is 1) active on its own and 2) a prohormone to T-3 and T-4.

Most of the "it'll shut your thyroid off and you'll be a fat feck" rhetoric is absolutely brotological in nature. If you follow the directions on the box, do not exceed dose or time on suggestions, you should be able to dump an additional 5-7 pounds of mostly fat above and beyond what you would normally lose.

No, if your diet sucks and you do not do any cardio, this is not a magic bullet. It's a nice "add on" to maximize the the amount of fat lost in a given time period. But without a smart, solid diet plan and a good training program, even Cytomel ain't gonna do much for you unless you eat a fistful of them.

I worked on this molecule for 7 years (since 98/99) and despite the garbage, non-sequitar rat studies that a competitor likes to throw up (rats have very different fat storage and metabolism patterns from humans) this stuff is very solid. I also have a rep for erring on the safe side of things.

Bottom line is - do your homework and think it over. This is a supplement for a more advanced person (or at least someone at the intermediate level). This is not a fat burner for your mom.

BK

Well done. Answer my PM.

**Endocrine** · 10-09-2006, 01:13 PM

Here's my letter to info@gasparinutrition.com:

Hi,
I'm currently involved in an ongoing discussion regarding Thyrotabs on BodyBuilding.com's supplement forum: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=921376
We're trying to obtain some information regading how exactly the molecule used in Thyrotabs is worth the price as well as how it becomes an active molecule of T3 or T4. A metabolic flow chart or a depiction of the molecule would be informative and helpful and would settle some questions better than just; "Thyrotabs converts to T3". We all understand that phenylalanine and iodine are both used in the formation of T4, but are curious to see how Thyrotabs ingredient is more potent just supplementing extra phenylalanine and tyrosine in the diet as well as worth the price.
Thanks,
Endocrine (BodyBuilding.com forum name)

**uhockey** · 10-09-2006, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Endocrine

Here's my letter to info@gasparinutrition.com:

Hi,
I'm currently involved in an ongoing discussion regarding Thyrotabs on BodyBuilding.com's supplement forum: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=921376
We're trying to obtain some information regading how exactly the molecule used in Thyrotabs is worth the price as well as how it becomes an active molecule of T3 or T4. A metabolic flow chart or a depiction of the molecule would be informative and helpful and would settle some questions better than just; "Thyrotabs converts to T3". We all understand that phenylalanine and iodine are both used in the formation of T4, but are curious to see how Thyrotabs ingredient is more potent just supplementing extra phenylalanine and tyrosine in the diet as well as worth the price.
Thanks,
Endocrine (BodyBuilding.com forum name)

I'll bet you quite a it that you won't get that flow chart. I'm sure BK knows what he's talking about, but putting such information out there would be really damned stupid for a number of reasons....

**Endocrine** · 10-09-2006, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by uhockey

I'll bet you quite a it that you won't get that flow chart. I'm sure BK knows what he's talking about, but putting such information out there would be really damned stupid for a number of reasons....

Hey buddy, Im sure I'll "get" the flow chart just fine. Unlike some, I'm no longer a student and moving forward with a career. Take that nonsense elsewhere.

I could understand why they wouldnt want to post up some information.. All im asking for is a bit of reasoning because I'd like to know. Not because I want to duplicate, but because its of interest of people that use it and are using as an alternative to the real thing.

If BK, "knows a few things" then, by all means, enterain us with some reasoning please.

**uhockey** · 10-09-2006, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Endocrine

Hey buddy, Im sure I'll "get" the flow chart just fine. Unlike some, I'm no longer a student and moving forward with a career. Take that nonsense elsewhere.

I could understand why they wouldnt want to post up some information.. All im asking for is a bit of reasoning because I'd like to know. Not because I want to duplicate, but because its of interest of people that use it and are using as an alternative to the real thing.

If BK, "knows a few things" then, by all means, enterain us with some reasoning please.

Hey, smartass, I didn't mean you wouldn't "get it" as in you wouldn't be intelligent enough. I meant they won't post it, therefore you won't "get what you're asking for"

Take your pretense elsewhere, because at 23, you aren't posting with more than a BA or BS, or a BA in BS.

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