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    Originally Posted by JackG
    Yes, but true mass is also 140 more calories in just sugar/fat.
    So what do you suggest then?
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    Originally Posted by JackG
    Yes, but true mass is also 140 more calories in just sugar/fat.
    JackG has a good point. I bought the product because I did not want to wait for the dilevery. But my first choice was CytoGainer or Universal Gains.

    The main reason being they have less sugar (only 5 grams or less) as well as decent fiber content.

    Second is the much higher price of BSN.

    IMHO, I would go with CytoGainer or Universal Gains before any other weight gainer sold at bb.com and yes I did look at EVERYONE of them, hehe.
    You can live a healthy life without Carbs.

    You'll die if you eliminate proteins or fats.
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    I've been using BSN True Mass, and as everyone has been saying, it mixes great, tastes great, and is one of the best weight gainers I've used.
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    CytoSport Cyto Gainer
    Serving Size: 4 Scoops (150g)

    Amount Per Serving:

    Calories: 620
    Calories From Fat: 45
    Total Fat: 5g
    Saturated Fat: 3g
    Total Carbohydrates: 80g
    Fiber: 4g
    Sugars: 5g
    Protein: 56g
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    Universal Real Gains
    Serving Size: 3.5 Scoops (155g)

    Amount Per Serving:

    Calories 610
    Calories from Fat 53
    Total Fat 6g
    Saturated Fat 3g
    Total Carbohydrates 87g
    Fiber 5g
    Sugars 5g
    Protein 52g
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    BSN True-Mass
    Serving Size: 3 Scoops (145g)

    Amount Per Serving:

    Calories 626
    Calories from fat 140
    Total Fat 15.5g
    Saturated Fat 5g
    Total Carbohydrates 75g
    Fiber 5g
    Sugars 13.5g
    Protein 46g
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    From the above stats, you only need 145g for True-Mass to achieve 626 calories but it contains more than twice sugar than the other two. That probably makes it tastier. That 3.5 scoop serving is weird. Why can't RealGains just deal with 3 or 4 scoops? BTW, what is the difference between pre-digested, ion-exchanged whey protein hydrosylate and whey protein isolate which CytoGainer doesn't have.
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    I would say the extra sugar does not improve the taste because one of the reasons I love it is it barely has NO sweet taste, I would even say it has NONE at all.

    I hate sweet taste in powders because you get sick of it after 1-2 days (I do).

    Anyways, I look forward to giving feedback on Universal Gains.

    If you have the money and don't mind the extra sugar then BSN True Mass is bang on, strawberry flavour is delicious.
    You can live a healthy life without Carbs.

    You'll die if you eliminate proteins or fats.
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    How come cytogainer says it has 620 calories but the macronutrients only add up to 589? Real gains and true mass seem to match up in that respect. Is it just a typo or what?
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    which one is better

    i have a problem with my workout

    i lose weightttt everytime i go gym

    i tried couple of GNC weight gainers but it didnt really workout

    one thing im really trying hard to get, its to gain weightttt (i mean alot) to get bigger so so

    on body building website i saw 2 top products are: CytoSport Cyto Gainer &

    Prolab N-Large II

    if u have experience with either of this plzzz let me knoww, what was outcome for u

    i really appreciate your help
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    True-Mass/ cheap BodyFortress whey

    i take a mixture what i usually do is 1 1/2 scoops True mass, 2 scoops body fortress whey

    my reasons for this is true mass is just too sweet for me, i mean its great but just too much sugar so i get a mixture of the sweet taste +extras and the cheap protien in body fort. It works for me and tastes just fine not as sweet as true mass, and not bad tasting like body fort.
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    muscle juice....mixes in just as good as oil in water though...you def need a blender to mix this stuff or else your ****ed
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    anyone else have difficulty taken n large II?? the serving size is 4 scoops. everytime i would try to take it...it would be so thick i literally had to eat it. this got old fast....almost threw up everytime. what do u guys do....take 2 scoops, then take 2 more? one scoop in divided doses throughout the day?
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    The best one I have used is CytoGainer. I've heard some good stuff about True Mass, and decent stuff about GNC Mass XXX (I think that's the name), but I've never tried it. I tried the Gnc brand years ago and thought it tasted rather bad. I love CytoGainer tho.
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    CytoGainer, Real Gains, and True-Mass are the top 3 out there. I've looked at others and they really don't have the amount of calories that the above 3 have for only 145g-155g of serving. That's all you have to look for, the number of calories in relation to the grams per serving (and also the sugar content where less is better).

    So from the above 3, it all boils down to the taste & price. I have not tasted any of them so i cannot attest on which one is the tastiest but I calculated the price based on the cheapest I can find on the internet.

    $1.14 / serving (21 servings) Real Gains
    $1.47 / serving (18 servings) CytoGainer
    $1.80 / serving (18 servings) True-Mass

    So the winner in terms of value for your money is Real Gains.
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    CytoGainer ftw! I LOVE it and saw awesome results from it! I recommend it to all.
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    so everyone whos taken weight gainers what would you say, bottom line no questions asked whats the MOST EFFECTIVE and BEST TASTING(what flavor to) weight gainer you have used?

    and are they all baised off milk/shake type flavors or are there any like fruit type?(lemonaid type drink).

    Im not SOOO worried about taste but im currently using GNC brand and its SO bad and thick. Has anyone tried Xyience X-Gainer?
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    I took Ultimate Nutrition 2544 all last summer along with no explode and saw some of my best gains ever. I just purchased a 10LB tub of ultimate nutrition and I might switch to Universal after it's done because of all the hype. I’m keeping a detailed log using the program "cross trainer" so I will actually be able to see which one helped me gain more muscle. I'll keep you posted.
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    Optimum Nutrition Pro Complex Gainer Double Chocolate. Try it you'll see why!
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    real gains

    its Serving Size is 3.5 Scoops (155g)

    Amount Per Serving:

    Calories 610
    Calories from Fat 53
    Total Fat 6g 9%
    Saturated Fat 3g 14%
    Cholesterol 97mg 32%
    Total Carbohydrates 87g 29%
    Dietary Fiber 5g 19%
    Sugars 5g
    Protein 52g 104%
    Calcium 316mg 32%
    Iron 2mg 11%
    Sodium 168mg 7%
    Potassium 503mg 14%



    so to each scoop is 618 / 3.5 = 176 cals

    if you exchange one scoop of it with one scoop of on whey

    the calculation would be like this

    2.5 scoops of real gains = 441 + 1scoop of on whey = 112 cals = 561cals


    the point of doing this is to rise the protein intake and to lower the carbs

    intake @ the same time

    so the result would be like

    cals 561

    Calories from Fat: 48

    total fat 5.25

    Total Carbohydrates 65g

    sugars 5g

    protein 61g

    so the ratio of real gains alone is fat=9% carb=57% protein=34%



    but with the improved wait gainer

    the ratio would be like

    vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
    fat=8.5% carb=46.5% protein=43.6%
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    see how the ratio got much better and less dense in calories dropping from

    610cals to 561cals which makes it a decent gainer

    if you want to add more calories you can add 10ml of flax oil to raise that low

    percentage of fats and to put something good in it


    i know i went on explaining but to do it the right way bring an empty tub

    and fill it with 25 scoops of real gains & 10 scoops of on whey to make

    10 servings of your improved ratio new wait gainer

    at least easier than going to the kitchen when you dont want to because of

    being lazy @ that time lol..................
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    In my opinion the best weight gainer is N-Large. I beleive this is the best because of the following reasons. It has 52 grams in each serving (4 scoops). Each serving has 600 cal's and if you mix with milk, it'll be around 750cals. The reason why I like this weight gainer the best is because it seemed to be the most effective one out there. I've tryed almost every kind out there too but with N-Large I never felt sick after taking it.
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    ON Pro Complex Gainer
    Serving Size: 1 Heaping Scoop (159g)
    Servings Per Container: 14

    Amount Per Serving:

    Calories 620
    Calories from Fat 60
    Total Fat 7 g
    Cholesterol 50 mg
    Total Carbohydrate 85 g
    Sugars 6 g
    Protein 55 g
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    N-Large II
    Container Size: 3.8 Lbs
    Serving Size: 4 Scoops (152g)
    Servings Per Container: 11

    Amount Per Serving:

    Calories: 600
    Calories from Fat: 55
    Total Fat: 6 g
    Total Carbohydrates: 86 g
    Sugars: 28 g
    Protein: 52 g
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    Taking equal amount of serving in grams @ 152g:

    Prolab N-Large II: Calories 600, Protein 52g
    ON Pro Complex Gainer: Calories 593, Protein 53g
    BSN True-Mass: Calories 656, Protein 48g
    Universal Real Gains: Calories 598, Protein 51g
    CytoSport Cyto Gainer: Calories 628, Protein 57g<---WINNER!
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    Originally Posted by esquire415

    Taking equal amount of serving in grams @ 152g:

    Prolab N-Large II: Calories 600, Protein 52g
    ON Pro Complex Gainer: Calories 593, Protein 53g
    BSN True-Mass: Calories 656, Protein 48g
    Universal Real Gains: Calories 598, Protein 51g
    CytoSport Cyto Gainer: Calories 628, Protein 57g<---WINNER!
    cyto is the winner not in just terms of calories density & protein quantity

    alone but also in terms of having the lowest sugar profile
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    I think Cyto-Gainer is by far one of the best weight gainers I have ever taken. Plus the fact that it has Complex carbs instead of simple carbs is much better than any other weight gainer.
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    Real Gains...best weight gainer i have ever tried.
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    my opinion is Revolt because it increases lean mass and strength oo and it has no estrogen....so no side effects
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    Originally Posted by CaSLeR
    I've been using BSN True Mass, and as everyone has been saying, it mixes great, tastes great, and is one of the best weight gainers I've used.
    ^^ that stuffs good too
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    ON's Mighty One

    Has anyone tired this? How many servings are there per container?
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    Weak, the best one ive seen out on the market is Muscle Juice. One serving= 1200 calories, 70g protein. That is with 2% milk.
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    What I used on a regular basis when I was trying to gain weight was MHP's Up Your Mass. The taste was great (Fudge Brownie) and I only took it with water. It was a little difficult to mix though as it got a little clumpy if you added the powder or water first, so i had to add half the water, then the powder, and then the rest of the water and then shake it up.

    Calories: 510
    Total Fat: 11g
    Saturated fat: 2g
    Cholesterol: 2mg
    Sodium: 435mg
    Total Carbohydrates: 58g
    Dietary fiber: 10.5g
    Sugars: 1.5g
    Protein: 46g


    $33.00 for 5lbs. I could usually get an easy 20+ shakes out of it. I may try the Cytogainer as I am back in a gaining phase.
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    Originally Posted by JohnDoeBiotech
    Weak, the best one ive seen out on the market is Muscle Juice. One serving= 1200 calories, 70g protein. That is with 2% milk.
    Muscle Juice is lame. You need 250g just to get 1021 Calories. At 152g, that's 620 calories of which comes a lot from sugar....60g from empty calories! Yikes!

    Serving Size: 4 Scoops (250g)
    Servings Per Container: 19

    Amount Per Serving:

    Calories 1021
    -Calories from Fat 153
    Total Fat 17g
    -Saturated Fat 17g
    Total Carbs 162g
    -Sugars 60g
    Protein 55g
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    I havn't tried a weight gainer before. Only problem I'm seeing is the small amount of servings they offer. Are they cost effective?
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    Originally Posted by killtolift44
    Optimum Nutrition Pro Complex Gainer Double Chocolate. Try it you'll see why!

    Good post. I agree.

    23 bucks for a 5lbs tub.
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