Maybe it's just me, but most of the time, if I have to put in any effort with a girl, I just quit. Just doesn't seem worth it anymore/I'm too tired.
Wbu guys?
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07-19-2017, 05:15 PM #1
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07-19-2017, 05:28 PM #2
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07-19-2017, 05:39 PM #3
With age and experience comes wisdom on knowing where to choose your battles. It's a two way street is what you realize. If I'm making an effort to get something off the ground with a girl, she better be as well. I don't chase anymore and I don't go out of my way to make someone notice me. I'm not going to pine after a girl through texts or fake social media bull so she knows I'm smitten with her. I've too much self respect for myself to go around treating anyone like a princess when it's 2017, and we all should be on equal ground. Getting into a relationship with someone shouldn't be a chess game where whoever mentally manipulates someone the best compared to the competition wins the ability to become a boyfriend.
And if you think it's tiring 23, try it in your 30s when you're in thick of your career, have adult responsibilities, and have found hobbies in your life that you would rather invest your free time in versus some person who may just end up wasting your time. Your tolerance levels for having to put any effort aside from starting a conversation and having it naturally snowball into something more are really low. But you're also happier, outside from when you wish you balls deep inside someone instead of your hand on the weekend lol
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07-19-2017, 05:43 PM #4
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07-19-2017, 05:45 PM #5
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07-19-2017, 05:50 PM #6
I'm not really trying but it's cause I'm infinitely more focused on lifemaxing ATM, and I'm not one of them guys who has to have a woman to be happy.
I'd rather give it a go when I have all the cards in my hand, although that strategy definitely has it's potential pitfalls, it seems like the best option to and for me.The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.
That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
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07-19-2017, 06:07 PM #7
I know a chick in her early 20's.
she was banging her doesn't even lift married manager at work.
she had a ripped guy friend who pursued and pursued her.
hell, he'd show up to the party to meet her and she had left.
But, he finally got her.
still with her.
a few weeks back a mutual friend saw her leave the bar with a guy we knew that she just met.
He was rubbing her back before they left.
He wouldn't divulge what happened once we told him she had a live-in BF but It's safe to say he got cucked.
So yeah, if you gotta put in effort to get with a woman you are a chump far as i'm concerned.
The above story isn't some anecdotal evidence.
I got a long list of personal experiences and experiences from friends that are similar.
If you have to chase a woman to get her, she most likely got with you because nothing better was knocking on her door at the time and it probably wont end well with you.
These day's, i don't chase.
or put in much effort past getting a number and asking them out.
after that if they aren't chasing they aren't interested.
The time to put in the effort is when she shows you she is into you, attracted to you, is quality, ect.Last edited by NitrogenWidget; 07-19-2017 at 06:13 PM.
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07-19-2017, 06:40 PM #8
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07-19-2017, 08:09 PM #9
Depends if you want to marry one day and have a family.
I want to leave the business and wealth I am going to build to my son(s)/daughter(s) before I go, for them to takeover. Otherwise, why am I working so hard? I want to live a purposeful life. I have a purpose for my life. That's how I see.
Winners are not quitters. If you want something, go for it or keep going for it.
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07-19-2017, 09:29 PM #10
This is basically the point I'm at in life. I'm 25 years old and it's time for me to be a man, build my business, and build my career. These next 5 years will be critical in determining how the rest of my life will go. Chasing women is not gonna help me do that and in the past its been a major distraction. Don't have time for that.
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07-19-2017, 09:44 PM #11
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07-19-2017, 10:11 PM #12
Back when I cold approached girls(for around 2 months) I got somewhere between 100-200 numbers. Around 20 responded. I met up with 2 and I only fukked 1. Getting a girls # doesn't mean sh*t.
Now I put in minimal effort by sticking with tinder and I've got a new fukkbuddy atleast once every 2 months.
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07-19-2017, 10:11 PM #13
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07-19-2017, 11:07 PM #14
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07-19-2017, 11:14 PM #15
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07-19-2017, 11:18 PM #16
Despite what misc, and your newfound religion, would have you believe most want an equal partner with whom you can make life decisions together. The time of single income families having any great standard of living are long gone...it takes two of you and decent luck and planning to raise a family
Weird that you've bought into the previous number of sexual partners matters for a successful LTR vibe given your personal experiences though
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07-19-2017, 11:26 PM #17
i don't really get the # for girls thing, like 5 is a bad thing
Saw another thread where a guy was sweating 10 guys by the time she was 30
I understand if she's at 30 guys by 18, but the stigma is almost like girls can't have sex just to have sex cause if she does, she's a hoe
Expectations seem to high
And single family income here, not long goneDallas Cowboys
Lifted for 30 years
Ass > tits
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07-19-2017, 11:39 PM #18
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07-20-2017, 12:11 AM #19
While I agree there is some over reaction, there's an evolutionary driver here. A woman has a child and it's obviously her own, historically and throughout evolution a man could never be 100% certain a child was his own, we're wired to constantly be on the look out for infidelity to avoid the cuckhold scenario and investing our resources to bring up a child that is not our own.
A woman can have as many sexual partners as she wants, but she should realise that may compromise her ability to have a lasting, serious relationship later on as that behaviour is a warning signal to men, it's in our DNA. Sure, guys will have one night stands with her but a committed relationship will be harder.
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07-20-2017, 12:47 AM #20
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07-20-2017, 01:02 AM #21
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07-20-2017, 01:31 AM #22
In this internet era, men are not stupid. Word gets around very quickly and it is bound to happen at some point in time.
Man approaches woman, tells her stories, entertains her, gets her number, and then have to deal with.....
* Flakes on texts.
** Flakes on phone calls.
*** Flakes on dates.
**** "I am busy."
***** "I am out of town."
****** "I am dating someone."
******* "I have a boyfriend."
******** "I have a fiance."
********* "I have husband and 2 children."
.....jump through so many hoops, and spend his time, energy, and money to get the woman who can't cook, clean the house, with the divorces rate > 50%, and about 70% of the divorces initiated by women.
As a man, if I have to do all of it for a woman, she'd better save her virginity for me or keep a low sex partner count. Otherwise, she is not worth it and does not deserve me.
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07-20-2017, 05:50 AM #23
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07-20-2017, 06:23 AM #24
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07-20-2017, 06:27 AM #25
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07-20-2017, 07:09 AM #26
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07-20-2017, 08:10 AM #27
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07-20-2017, 08:38 AM #28
And yeah, about numbers.... let me just say as a 30something year old inexperienced-in-the-bedroom guy, women these days are more inclined to be spooked off by a guy NOT putting numbers up on the board versus having a low one (or in my case, a giant goose egg.) It's such a funny time, where guys still want their girls to be nearly virginal but have the sexual abilities of a porn star, and girls want a great guy that won't screw them over, but also not one who hasn't stuck his plug in a dozen outlets yet, so basically, they want a guy with the sexual prowess of a professional player who is going to somehow remain loyal to them or not get bored and dump them
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07-20-2017, 08:41 AM #29
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07-20-2017, 08:43 AM #30
I think everyone is quickly realizing that returns on effort on girls diminish extremely fast.
Most men are waking up to the fact that either women fall into your lap on their own or they don't at all, and your time is better invested building up value.
In b4 "game", in b4 "redpill", whatever helps you sleep at night buddy boyos.
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