UNCnate's CL Black HOLE (sponsored) and AX Hyperdrol/Retain with DS Vigor

[UNCnate]

Ok, so first off I would like to thank CL as I was chosen as a tester for Black HOLE over at the CL forum, and I decided to stack it with Hyperdrol and Retain. Also Ill be taking DS Vigor for antioxidant support and the AST 32x Multi.

Links for the product write ups:
Black HOLE
http://controlledlabs.com/product_de...7970d10e033a19
Hyperdrol
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ax/hyper.html
Retain
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ax/retain.html
Vigor
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/vig.html
AST 32x Vitamin
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/multi-pro.html

Diet:
Well Im a skinny guy (158 lbs) so my maintenance calories arent that high, around 2500. So Ill be bulking at 3k unless I feel the need to go ahead and bump that up a little. Going for 2 grams of protein per body weight each day, while trying to get 6 meals a day. With class starting soon I dont know if thats feasible, but if I have to Ill pack some almonds or something to eat whenever I can. Also, Im really hoping Black HOLE will help me to actually eat breakfast instead of my usual not being hungry so skipping a meal thing.

Workout:
Ive attached a word document which Ill follow pretty strictly for the month. Ill udpate it daily and attach a new one to my updates.

Other supps Ill be taking:
Fish Oil - the walmart kind. Theyre cheap, so I plan to take probably 5 a day.
ON 100% Whey - Cookies and Cream
MSM
ALA - again, the walmart kind.

Well... I think that pretty much covers it. If Ive left anything out or you have any questions let me know.

Im really excited for this log, I think its got pretty good potential.

And oh, log will start up Monday.

[UNCnate]

Ok well I just took my first dosing... of well, everything.
- 1 Hyperdrol
- 1 Retain
- 1 Vigor
- 1 Vitamin
- 3 grams fish oil
... and I took the "Initial First Dosage" of Black HOLE of only one pill this morning to assess tolerance. This was about 10 minutes ago, and Im about to go get something for my car (not driving, not sure how Ill feel yet). So maybe before long Ill start to feel some effects.

Ill update later with anymore feelings I have if any yet, and my workout after I finish.

[TimoteoS]

Another sweet stack man... Looking good.. Ill be watching

[UNCnate]

Ok well first impressions of Black HOLE. Didnt notice a whole lot, I guess thats why the first day you see how youll react to it. Looking forward to the full dose tomorrow to see if that makes any changes.

Workout today - some reason I forgot my paper so I just pretty much did Chest and Back and Abs. Ill do what I was supposed to do today tomorrow so Ill be up to date on where Im supposed to be.

Pre workout weight - 157
Post workout weight - 158.5

Chest
Flat Bench
- 10/8/8/6 - 155/165/185/180
Iso Chest
- 6 sets - first 3 sets were one arm - last three both arms - weight was 100 lbs
Flys
- 3 sets of 10 - 20 lbs
Back
Seated Rows
- 3 sets - 1st set was 75 lbs, last 2 was 100 lbs
One Arm Rows
- 3 sets of 10 per arm - 60/70/80
Abs
Decline Crunches 2 sets of 25
Hanging leg raises 2 sets of 25

Tomorrow Im going to do bis/tris and will be caught up for where I was supposed to be. Ill udpate later tonight with my diet for the day.

Overall the workout was good today. Vascularity is improving it seems almost daily. Seeing as how I was on JW until I started this Im sure I dont need a
"break in" time for Hyperdrol since I was on a similar (I say that term a little loosely) product.

[UNCnate]

Ok well heres my diet for the day... Im not done yet but this is the way itll play out.

9 AM
- bowl of cereal, 3 grams fish oils, first dose of Hyperdrol/Retain/Vigor/Vitamin... and the initial testing of Black Hole.
11 AM
- MetRX protein bar - 20 grams of protein
Noon
- Grilled Chicken sandwich, side salad, and potato wedges... 2nd dose of Hyperdrol/Retain
2 PM
- went to the gym (drank a good 2 lbs of water, whatever that equates to in liquid measurements?)
3 PM
- a little after 3 finished the workout and 10 minutes later had a Whey shake with honey (around 35 grams of protein)
5 PM
- another protein shake same as above
6:30 PM
- Supper - turkey, ham and cheese sub on wheat, 3rd dose of Hyperdrol/Retain, 2nd dose of Vigor/Vitamin
8 PM
- another shake with honey
11 PM
- last shake of the day no honey this time

Im not sure what any of this equates to in calories. Im going to try to figure it out later. If anyone has any diet suggestions, corrections or input let me know.

[steve39]

I'll be following this. I'm going to be doing something similiar in the near future (X-Factor / Retain)

[UNCnate]

Pre workout weight 158
Post.................... 158.5 - the heat was horrible today, so much sweating.

Biceps
Alternating Dumbell Curls 3 sets of 14 - 30 lbs
Regular EZ Bar Curls 3 sets of 10 - 100 lbs
Preacher Curls - 2 sets of 10 - 65 lbs
Seated Curls (with bar) - 70/85/90

Triceps
Standing Tricep Extension - 3 sets of 10 - 70/80/90
Skull Crushers - 3 sets of 10 - 80/85/95
Kick backs - 3 sets of 10 - 35 lbs

Forearms
Wrist Curls - 55 lbs - 3 sets of 25
Behind the back wrist curls - 55 lbs - 3 sets of 25

Workout was really good today, was really focused the whole time and had a good overall feel.

Update tonight with my diet (including BH). Cant yet cause Im not done.

[Mister_A]

Should be a good stack.

Good luck with your log.

[UNCnate]

Ok heres the diet for the day.

9 AM - 1st dose of Hyperdrol/Retain/Vigor/Vitamin... 3 grams fish oil. 30 gram protein shake with honey.
Noon - 12 inch chicken and cheese sub - good stuff I must say. 2nd dose of Hyperdrol/Retain
2 PM - had just finished my workout so I took the usual post workout shake. Whey and honey.
4 PM - was on the road so I did what I could. I ate two of those 50 cent bags of peanuts. 22 grams of protein.
6 PM - full dose of black hole
7 PM - 3rd dose of Hyperdrol/Retain.... 2nd dose of Vigor/Vitamin... Dinner consisted of a good country cooked meal. Country ham, biscuits, eggs.
9 PM - currenty drinking another protein drink
11 PM - right before bed Ill take another protein drink.

Id love for someone to critique my diet. Ill admit its a weaker point to my regimine.

Ok so the black hole seemed to have worked today. I ate more than my usual servings at dinner.

Other notes:
Had a bad headache sense about 5... Hyperdrol? Maybe... not sure yet.

[UNCnate]

Should be a good stack.

Good luck with your log.

Thanks, I hope you and the others will check in from time to time.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Ok heres the diet for the day.

9 AM - 1st dose of Hyperdrol/Retain/Vigor/Vitamin... 3 grams fish oil. 30 gram protein shake with honey.
Noon - 12 inch chicken and cheese sub - good stuff I must say. 2nd dose of Hyperdrol/Retain
2 PM - had just finished my workout so I took the usual post workout shake. Whey and honey.
4 PM - was on the road so I did what I could. I ate two of those 50 cent bags of peanuts. 22 grams of protein.
6 PM - full dose of black hole
7 PM - 3rd dose of Hyperdrol/Retain.... 2nd dose of Vigor/Vitamin... Dinner consisted of a good country cooked meal. Country ham, biscuits, eggs.
9 PM - currenty drinking another protein drink
11 PM - right before bed Ill take another protein drink.

Id love for someone to critique my diet. Ill admit its a weaker point to my regimine.

Ok so the black hole seemed to have worked today. I ate more than my usual servings at dinner.

Other notes:
Had a bad headache sense about 5... Hyperdrol? Maybe... not sure yet.

very good, appetite effects starting to kick in I see.

[Mister_A]

Thanks, I hope you and the others will check in from time to time.

I'll definately stop by all the time. Might not post everytime but I'm watching.

[ddawg91]

Nice start, glad to see some early effects on day 2.

[lachy]

im watching this one

[UNCnate]

Weight - Pre/Post Workout
157/158

Workout:
Leg Press - 8/10/10 - 360/315/270
Leg Ext. - 3 sets of 10 - 150
Leg Curls - 3 sets of 10 -150
SLDL - 8/6/6 - 165/185/225
One leg calf raises - 2 sets of 25 - 100/110
Calf Raises - 2 sets of 25 - 170/180

Sleep:
8 hrs, pretty deep sleep

Diet:
9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup this time (like 220 calories, 45 carbs - most of which are sugar.) so its about a 500 calorie shake.
Noon - Wendys, I know bad right. Had chicken tenders... a potatoe.
2 PM - had just finished working out so I had the usual post workout shake, but this time with syrup like above.
5 PM - a few handfuls of peanuts, about enough to equal a cup.
6:15 - took BH
7 PM - Steak, steak fries, salad, texas toast... and a little flounder.
9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
11 PM - final shake

Supplement Dosages
3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

Water:
1.5 gallons

Energy:
Not so good, feeling kind of drained.

Mood:
Slightly irritable, who knows.

Sides:
Read below. And maybe the above things are sides, but Im thinking no b/c considering my usual mood its not a HUGE change.

Other: Ok, so Ive had an upset stomach late last night and today. Im not sure if its just my stomach getting used to the digestion aids of BH, or if I should even feel that or what. Maybe itll be gone tomorrow. Any ideas?

[UNCnate]

Ok well... stomach still upset this morning. So that rules out that it being BH. Guess I just have some kind of virus or something.

About to eat lunch and then go workout. Update tonight.

[adbuster]

UNCnate how you liking the Hyperdrol compared to the JW?

[UNCnate]

Right now Im not sure. What I can say though is that Im getting better pumps/vascularity with Hyperdrol, but pumps and vascularity dont lead to gains so we'll have to see how that goes.

Ill update tonight with my diet and workout for the day, plus whatever else Im feeling at the time.

[adbuster]

word.

Im about half way through my second bottle of JW and seeing wicked results.

I talked my friend into either tryign JW or Hyperdrol...ahah I think I'll make him take teh Hyperdrol so I can see what kind of results he gets.

Good luck with your stack. Gotta eat big too be big!

[UNCnate]

Weight - Pre/Post Workout
157.5/159

Workout:
Front Lat Raises - 3 sets of 12 - 15 lbs (my left shoulder hurts doing these, I could do more weight if it werent for that)
Side Laterals - 3 sets of 12 - 15 lbs (again, shoulder)
Lat Pulls - 3 sets of 10 - 105/110/115
Arnold Presses - 3 sets of 10 - 30/35/40
Shrugs - 3 sets of 10 - 225/225/225
Upright Rows - 2 sets of 10 - 150
Front and Back Wrist curls - 3 sets of 25 - 55 lbs
Decline Crunches - 3 sets of 25
Hanging Leg Raises - 4 sets of 20

Sleep: 7 hours, was up till 2:30-3 (which sucks) woke up at 10ish.

Diet:
10 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup this time (like 220 calories, 45 carbs - most of which are sugar.) so its about a 500 calorie shake.
Noon - Turkey and ham sandwiches, handful of peanuts, spoon of peanut butter
2 PM - had just finished working out so I had the usual post workout shake, but this time with syrup like above.
5 PM - a few handfuls of peanuts, about enough to equal a cup.
6 PM - took BH
7 PM - Pot Roast, potatoes, corn, rolls
9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
11 PM - final shake

Supplement Dosages
3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

Water:
2 gallons

Energy:
Still not the greatest, might just be the heat.

Mood:
Irritability comes and goes.

Sides:
Feeling good.

Other: Ok, so Ive been on BH 4 days now. From what I can tell it works more by making you be able to eat more food at once before you feel full, instead of making you feel hungry which is what I expected. This is what Ive found from taking it before dinner. Hyperdrol and Retain are doing wonders for my endurance, vascularity, pumps, focus... about everything in the gym. Still no sleep problems as some people have experienced with Hyperdrol. Overall Im feeling good.

[UNCnate]

Just to let everyone know... Im going to Gatlinburg, TN tomorrow morning. Im pretty sure the resort Im staying at will have the internet, so Ill update with anything if it needs be. Ill be gone for 1 night, maybe 2.

Regardless, the next three days are rest days. So the only updates will be diet and whatever else arises that needs to be mentioned.

[Mister_A]

Have fun!

[ddawg91]

Hows the Walmart ALA treating you? It always gave me bad heart burn. Have a good trip and enjoy!

[UNCnate]

Hows the Walmart ALA treating you? It always gave me bad heart burn. Have a good trip and enjoy!

No heart burn here.

[UNCnate]

Off day

Diet:

8:15 - woke up took BH
9 AM - two country ham biscuits
11 AM - 2 bags of cashews, 1 bag of peanuts
1 PM - Lunch - teriyaki chicken stir fry
3 PM - beef jerky from one of the shops down here
6 PM - Ruby Tuesday Triple Play - half rack ribs/3 tenders/shrimp/sald/cheese fries/cheese sticks/big salad - I think, that the BH might have just be increasing my appetite huh?
9 PM - I left my protein drink mix at the house, so Ill see what I can do for that

Supplement Dosage:
3 Hyperdrol/Retain
2 Vigor
3 BH - 1 serving
2 Vitamin
3 ALA

BTW... this place up here is pretty cool. Lots of people.

[UNCnate]

Another off day - I feel bored on days like today.

Alright well diet for the day since its the only thing to post.

7 AM - breakfast at Shoneys - 2 panckes, bacon, country ham, biscuits and grazy, OJ.
9 AM - had some leftover hamburger from the night before.
Noon - subway - Bourbon Chicken 12 inch on white
1-3 took a 2 hour nap in the car on the way home
4 PM - arrived home had a protein shake
5:15 - took BH
6 PM - Teriyaki Steak and Rice - BH took effect here, I could have ate all day again.
8 PM - protein shake
11 PM - protein shake

Other notes:
BH is definitely doing its job. Im really eating a lot more food than what Im used to, and in most cases not even getting full. No sleep problems as of yet. Really nothing negative yet.

[UNCnate]

Day 7 - off day

Diet - around 3000 calories. Right where I should be. I forgot all the stuff I ate or Id post it.

Day 8 - First signs of weight gain

Weight - Pre/Post Workout
159 (+2)/160.5

Workout:
Flat Bench - 4 sets of 5 - 185 lbs
Incline DB Bench - 3 sets of 10 - 50 lbs
Pullovers - 3 sets of 10 - 30 lbs
Standing Tricep Ext. - 3 sets of 10 - 130 lbs
BW Dips - 3 sets of 10

Sleep:
8 hrs, pretty deep sleep

Diet: how itll pan out
9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup and honey
Noon - Turkey and cheese sandwiches, spoon of PB
2 PM - had just finished working out so I had 2 MetRX protein bars
5 PM - a few handfuls of peanuts, about enough to equal a cup.
6:15 - took BH
7 PM - Pizza
9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
11 PM - final shake


Supplement Dosages
3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

Water:
2 gallons

Energy:
Energy is more there now. Probably gonna play some tennis tonight.

Mood:
Feeling good

Sides:
Still no sides

Other: Well BH has obviously been doing its job. I cant contribute the gains I made last week all to BH, but it obviously is helping me get down a lot more food than Im used to.

[UNCnate]

Weight - Pre/Post Workout
160 (+3)/161

Workout:
One Arm Preacher Curls - 3 sets of 10 - 30 lbs
Straight Bar Curls - 3 sets of 10 - 60 lbs
EZ bar curls - 3 sets of 10 - 100/110/120
Seated Rows - 3 sets of 10 - 150 lbs
One Arm Rows - 3 sets of 10 - 55 lbs

Sleep:
8 hrs, pretty deep sleep

Diet: how itll pan out
9 AM - protein shake with pancake syrup and honey
Noon - Barbecue sandwiches
2 PM - had just finished working out so I had 2 MetRX protein bars
5 PM - another BBQ sandwich
6:15 - took BH
7 PM - Tacos
9 PM - Protein shake - no syrup
11 PM - final shake


Supplement Dosages
3 Hyperdrol/Retain - breakfast, lunch, dinner
5 grams of fish oil - 3 breakfast, 2 dinner
2 Vigor - breakfast, dinner
2 Vitamins - breakfast, dinner

Water:
2 gallons

Energy:
Feeling kinda drained tonight. The heat is horrible, power went out in the whole neighborhood today so no A/C for a while, plus I mowed the yard in like 95 degree weather for a few hours.

Mood:
Feeling good

Sides:
Still no sides

Other: Not really much to mention today, everything is going as planned. BH still doing its job... eating more food than ever.

[Mister_A]

Stay cool! I freakin hate the heat!

[UNCnate]

Stay cool! I freakin hate the heat!

The heat is horrible... heat index of 103 today.

On another note, had a nose bleed today. Not sure if its supplement related or not. It was while I was swimming today I came up from the bottom of the pool and theyre like your nose is bleeding, but then it quit just as soon as it started. Any ideas?

Ill update later on with my workout and diet.