up until 5 months ago i always used dieting and cardio as a weightloss tool. i now discoverd strenght training and find it far more rewarding than just dieting and cardio....(with the help of some equipoise. this is my first cycle ever)
i'm wondering if it is possible to gain muscle and lose body fat at the same time...or do you need to focus on "bulking" then cut?
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06-08-2006, 09:59 PM #1
is it possible to gain muscle and lose body fat at the same time?
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06-08-2006, 10:22 PM #2
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06-08-2006, 10:43 PM #3
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06-09-2006, 02:56 AM #4
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06-12-2006, 09:42 AM #5Originally Posted by stacey 010
Really!!?? I am training for a show in October as well and I definitely need to put size on my arms and quads and lats, but I do not want to put on much fat (I will worry about losing the fat in August). What are you doing diet wise that lets you achieve this? I was put on a muscle building diet, but I feel like all it is doing is making me fat (of course it would help if I stopped eating twice as much cottage cheese as recommended)
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06-12-2006, 10:49 AM #6
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06-12-2006, 12:13 PM #7Originally Posted by Miranda
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06-12-2006, 12:35 PM #8
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Originally Posted by amcrnilovicOriginally Posted by stacey 010Being different is NEVER easy...see my ******** page at "Maria Roelle Health Coaching" or check out my website at www.mariaroelle.com If you have questions regarding plant based diet or healing foods, please feel free to contact me.
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06-12-2006, 01:14 PM #9Originally Posted by BlondeAmazon
I am training for NPC in New Hampshire. Wow, I can't eat that many cals without turning into a blimp, of course, I am a lot smaller. I plan on tapering cals this time around. I dumped them last time and lost all my muscle. For your training, do you do one body part each day of the week or a upper lower body split. There seems to be so much controversy and I want to do whichever puts on the most size in the shortest amount of time. It is so hard to find the right combo of training and diet to achieve muscle growth with minimal fat gain. I have never done it so I have no idea how to do it. I have always focused on losing fat. I guess I focused too hard.
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06-12-2006, 05:36 PM #10
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Originally Posted by amcrnilovicBeing different is NEVER easy...see my ******** page at "Maria Roelle Health Coaching" or check out my website at www.mariaroelle.com If you have questions regarding plant based diet or healing foods, please feel free to contact me.
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06-12-2006, 07:17 PM #11
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06-12-2006, 08:08 PM #12Originally Posted by amcrnilovic
haha...hey, yeah gotta love the cottage cheese. I have posted my diet and training program under my journal which i started yesterday. My breakdown is 45% protein, 25% carbs and 30% fat. Im eating at my BMR. Even tho im doing shiat loads of cardio (both interval sprints to stimulate heaps of GH and shed the fat and SS cardio ) to shed the fat im really really training heavy on the weights and eating every 2-3 hours and having heaps and heaps of protein. I tend to put on muscle pretty easily tho...but hoping to make these gains till atleast 12 weeks out.
what are you competing in...? I have just been told that many figure girls tend to look like skinny chickens cause they dont realise how much muscle they DONT have and how much bf they were carrying...ugh...
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06-12-2006, 08:13 PM #13Originally Posted by BlondeAmazon
my split is:
M - chest, tris, abs
T - quads
W - back, abs
Th - Hams, calves,
Fr - Shoulders, Bis, Abs
cardio is interval and steady state. Im lifting super heavy and doing super sets and drop sets...really just completeing training like an animal...go in, train hard...go eat...hehe.im hoping to put on another 3 or so kg of muscle before the comp...so will let you know how im going
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06-12-2006, 08:51 PM #14
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06-13-2006, 01:33 AM #15
hey lou,
i guess my body is a little different...im very carb sensitive and respond really well to intense weight training, interval runs and a lower carb diet...the higher protein diet really works for me and in the last 7 weeks or so, ive gained about 2.5kg of muscle and lost over 5%bf. So, its working...ill keep doing what im doing until it doesnt..
cheers
stace
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06-13-2006, 03:05 AM #16
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06-13-2006, 04:35 AM #17
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Originally Posted by stacey 010Being different is NEVER easy...see my ******** page at "Maria Roelle Health Coaching" or check out my website at www.mariaroelle.com If you have questions regarding plant based diet or healing foods, please feel free to contact me.
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06-13-2006, 06:10 AM #18Originally Posted by stacey 010
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06-13-2006, 06:15 AM #19Originally Posted by stacey 010
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06-14-2006, 02:30 AM #20Originally Posted by amcrnilovic
have you got any pics from your show or prep shots..? would love a peek
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06-14-2006, 04:34 AM #21
Yes, it is possible to gain muscle while shedding fat. It's all in the diet and genetics/body type. I've done it more than once while cutting for a show. If you keep your protein high you should be able to still put on muscle although at a slower rate. Make sure you focus on the quality of your food
Mommy's Muscle Madness:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=662270
Sesamin/Melting Point Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=795641
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06-15-2006, 10:41 AM #22Originally Posted by stacey 010
I am starting to think that its best I wait until next year. I am still puttig on weight. Its 5 pounds now and its only been 1.5 weeks! I know some must be water as I gained two pounds yesterday which is impossible since I ate about 1800 calories! I think I need to slow down on the weight gain so more of the gain is muscle. It will take a lot longer but I would rather do that then get a whole bunch of fat with my muscle and then have to diet so hard that I end up losing a lot of the muscle anyway. I may try carb cycling so I am still getting above maint cals, but only twice per week and then do lo and no carb days for the other five days. I do have pics. I can email them to you. IM me your email address
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06-15-2006, 06:46 PM #23Originally Posted by amcrnilovic
hey,
please dont give up...you have been so strong so far and its just a challenge in itself to make the decision to take on a challenge...i think you should compete and really train hard eat well and see how you come out 2 weeks or so before hand. with the right diet, you shouldnt be losing muscle...just the bodyfat...(if thats your goal at the moment)...stick with it...and yeah its hard...really tough...there are days ..actually almost everyday i question why im doing this...but Im so hungry for it and willing to bust my ass in every way shape and form to get there...and i will get there...and so can you!!!
in my books everyone on this website is a high achiever. and everyone is a winner ..just for leading a healthy lifestyle...
you can do it this...come on...its game time!!!!
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06-16-2006, 07:35 AM #24
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06-16-2006, 03:39 PM #25Originally Posted by amcrnilovic
take care and good luck
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06-21-2006, 03:09 PM #27
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Originally Posted by stacey 010
Ditto on that. I am doing a contest diet of my own design right now, and I have found that I have gotten the correct combination (for MY body of course) of diet, exercise and supplements. I am losing about 1 to 1.5 pounds of fat per week, and my strength has actually improved to the point where I am putting on new muscle. The thing is, it takes a long time, and a lot of hard work in the gym and educating yourself on what works best for YOU to make that happen. I suggest you just keep at it until you find the results you are looking for. Changes don't happen over night.
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06-22-2006, 08:36 AM #28
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07-18-2006, 09:26 PM #29
Hi, i came across this thread the other day when I was looking for info on how to gain muscle lose fat simultaneously.
I wish to gain lean muscle, but I don't desire it in copious amounts. Just to gain some nice curves etc. i also need to lose some body fat...especially on my butt where it seems to stick like glue.
Currently i workout with weights M/W/F doing Upper/Lower split. I usually do some cardio on Tues/ Thursday and on weekends.
I was wondering if this was an optimal split to gain mass/lose fat and what would be a good diet to follow? Generally.
i wasn't sure about carb cycling but had thought about doing high carb days on weight training days and lower carbs on other days. I find i need carbs or i lose too much muscle otherwise.
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07-19-2006, 01:43 PM #30
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