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    Are bodybuilders athletes?

    I was listening to a contest, either the Colorado or NY Pro, and Bob Chic said "lets hear it for all these great athletes" or something along those lines.

    What stuck out to me was the word 'athlete'. What does a bodybuilder do that could be considered athletic?

    Is a model an athlete?

    Is a beauty pagent contestant an athlete?

    Body Building is about astetics not a test of skill, strength or athletic ability.

    IMHO, BBers are NOT athletes... Your thoughts?

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    if you seach for "athlete" on wikipedia, it says: An athlete is a person who has above average physical skills (strength, agility, and endurance) and is thus suitable for physical activities, in particular, contests.

    so that means bodybuilders are athletes

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    i agree with you, i think any event where you get judged is not a sport. figure skating for example.
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    lol, alot bodybuilders on a full bulk can't even barely run

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    Originally Posted by SoButteR
    i agree with you, i think any event where you get judged is not a sport. figure skating for example.
    gymnastics?
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    ive played a lot of sports throughout the years, and the only one that was comparable to body building was wrestling. maybe its not a sport by definition but it takes way more dedication and focus than most other sports. you cant practice half ass all week then go all out on game day. youre going all out every day
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    Hmmmmmm...

    Let is think, someone trains 4-6 times per week, with gut wrenching intensity, keeps an exact track of all their meals and their contents, is stronger than 99.9% of the rest of the world, bigger than 99.9% of the world and competes in a sport that envolves being in inhumain physical state. If this person isn't an athlete, I don't know who is.

    Just because their win isn't dependant upon a time, or a distance etc, it is still a heavily contested sport, like someone said above, take gymnastics for example, one of the most physically strenuous sports around.
    but who was lift

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    Originally Posted by Lintford
    Hmmmmmm...

    Let is think, someone trains 4-6 times per week, with gut wrenching intensity, keeps an exact track of all their meals and their contents, is stronger than 99.9% of the rest of the world, bigger than 99.9% of the world and competes in a sport that envolves being in inhumain physical state. If this person isn't an athlete, I don't know who is.

    Just because their win isn't dependant upon a time, or a distance etc, it is still a heavily contested sport, like someone said above, take gymnastics for example, one of the most physically strenuous sports around.
    yes a bodybuilder is an athlete. My friends and I have this argument all the time...

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    Originally Posted by Lintford
    Hmmmmmm...

    Let is think, someone trains 4-6 times per week, with gut wrenching intensity, keeps an exact track of all their meals and their contents, is stronger than 99.9% of the rest of the world, bigger than 99.9% of the world and competes in a sport that envolves being in inhumain physical state. If this person isn't an athlete, I don't know who is.

    Just because their win isn't dependant upon a time, or a distance etc, it is still a heavily contested sport, like someone said above, take gymnastics for example, one of the most physically strenuous sports around.
    agree you got it man, the athletic part takes place in the gym.
    bodybuilders are athletes when there doing there cardio and weight lifting.

    the stage competition, well that is kinda like a beauty pageant.lol

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    Originally Posted by bababullshat
    I was listening to a contest, either the Colorado or NY Pro, and Bob Chic said "lets hear it for all these great athletes" or something along those lines.

    What stuck out to me was the word 'athlete'. What does a bodybuilder do that could be considered athletic?

    Is a model an athlete?

    Is a beauty pagent contestant an athlete?

    Body Building is about astetics not a test of skill, strength or athletic ability.

    IMHO, BBers are NOT athletes... Your thoughts?
    bodybuilders are elite athletes.
    the athlete part is when there doing there cardio and weight training.

    the stage competion well thats like a beauty competition imo.

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    It never ceases to amaze me why this question is important to anyone...but, It comes up every 3 days or so....

    You'll also see a very clear cut line...those who have "TALKED THE TALKED"(competed) absolutely think it's a sport and that BBers are athletes...

    Those who have never "WALKED THE WALK"...look at it as a mere "beauty contest" etc. and downgrade it, passing it off as just a competition without athletic merit...

    coincidence?
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    Originally Posted by Pro Bob Chick
    It never ceases to amaze me why this question is important to anyone...but, It comes up every 3 days or so....

    You'll also see a very clear cut line...those who have "TALKED THE TALKED"(competed) absolutely think it's a sport and that BBers are athletes...

    Those who have never "WALKED THE WALK"...look at it as a mere "beauty contest" etc. and downgrade it, passing it off as just a competition without athletic merit...

    coincidence?
    or they are the pencil necked,liberal media trying to cast shame on a sport they know nothing about. bodybuilding is recieving so much negative energy because,in large part recently, to craig titus. but who cares! since when was bodybuilding mainstream? ill be here when its popular and when its underground. in fact i like it when it goes through less popular times because it strips bodybuilding to the bare bones. hardcore, lasting fans are only left after such a cleansing! so whether its on the fringe of society or the mainstream sport it could be, ill be here, lifting ,eating and working out hard. its not a short term stint , its a lifestyle!

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    Originally Posted by Pro Bob Chick
    It never ceases to amaze me why this question is important to anyone...but, It comes up every 3 days or so....

    You'll also see a very clear cut line...those who have "TALKED THE TALKED"(competed) absolutely think it's a sport and that BBers are athletes...

    Those who have never "WALKED THE WALK"...look at it as a mere "beauty contest" etc. and downgrade it, passing it off as just a competition without athletic merit...

    coincidence?
    I bodybuild (have yet to compete but plan on doing it in a year) and i don't consider myself an athelete and i don't think i will. I see bodybuilding as more of an art, displaying the physique to the best of your ability, sculpting yourself with calories and iron. I see an athelete as someone who has natural talent and is quick footed and can handle their body against gravity naturally better then others.

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    Originally Posted by JuicyCop2
    I bodybuild (have yet to compete but plan on doing it in a year) and i don't consider myself an athelete and i don't think i will. I see bodybuilding as more of an art, displaying the physique to the best of your ability, sculpting yourself with calories and iron. I see an athelete as someone who has natural talent and is quick footed and can handle their body against gravity naturally better then others.
    but juicycop you have not walked the walk so to speak. seeing as how you havent competed yet. its the ultimate rush standing pretty much naked in front of a crowd. its something else man...so i can see how from your viewpoint you wouldnt consider it an athletic sport but try this on for size: we eat like athletes,we train like athletes ,we compete like athletes...whats not athletic about that?

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    To push all opinions aside, dictionary.com defines it as: A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.

    The keyword being "possessing", as opposed to "displaying" such as strongman competitions, indicates that bodybuilders are indeed athletes. However, one could also make the argument that although they have the strength, by competition time, their endurance is worth **** and bodybuilders aren't exactly known for being the most agile of creatures.

    But, it's one of those arguments that could, and probably will go on and on and on. Is cheerleading a sport? Ask a cheerleader, yes. Ask anyone else, no.

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    Originally Posted by BODYBUILDER889
    but juicycop you have not walked the walk so to speak. seeing as how you havent competed yet. its the ultimate rush standing pretty much naked in front of a crowd. its something else man...so i can see how from your viewpoint you wouldnt consider it an athletic sport but try this on for size: we eat like athletes,we train like athletes ,we compete like athletes...whats not athletic about that?
    True... lol. I believe bodybuilding is just a huge illusion. You try to hide your weaknesses and you hit poses that looks like statues. I'll report my results to you once i do compete lol but in all honesty i don't think my thoughts on it will change. Don't get me wrong though, i am not calling it a beauty contest.

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    My personal opinion is this : The definition of an athlete should contain they're physical shape, muscle mass too of course, BUT also they're ability to run, do vertical jumps and stamina. Kobe Bryant for example is not even near Dexter Jackson in terms of muscularity, but I guarantee you he has better stamina, runs faster, jumps higher. Shouldn't that be taken in to consideration ?

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    Originally Posted by stefanh
    My personal opinion is this : The definition of an athlete should contain they're physical shape, muscle mass too of course, BUT also they're ability to run, do vertical jumps and stamina. Kobe Bryant for example is not even near Dexter Jackson in terms of muscularity, but I guarantee you he has better stamina, runs faster, jumps higher. Shouldn't that be taken in to consideration ?
    Markus Ruhl might be really good at long jump.
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    Originally Posted by Buff_Daddy
    Markus Ruhl might be really good at long jump.
    That would be some funny ****, he would empty the sand pit.

    Actually, he would fill it.
    but who was lift

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    Originally Posted by Lintford
    That would be some funny ****, he would empty the sand pit.

    Actually, he would fill it.
    roflol " i maust jamp ova the pit of doom! ahhhh*jumps clears sand pit and lands in parking lot* i ahm super ruhl!!

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    Ah, but then you have people like Mariusz Pudzianowski

    http://www.atomicpower.pl/pic/powitanie_lata/13.jpg
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariusz_Pudzianowski
    Take a look at his personal bests^^^

    Not only does he have the body of a seasoned bodybuilder, but he is one of the strongest, most fit, and most endured men alive. He is, by any definition, a true athlete.

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    Red face A strong argument from a strong girl...

    Many enter a gym on a regular basis to maintain their health, strength, or sense of youth. Admirable and worthwhile, but that doesn't make them a bodybuilder.

    For the Bodybuilder each day in the gym is goal-specific, calculated, educated & balanced; from weight training, to cardio, to nutrition. These are all elements of the athletecism prior to stepping before the panel of judges.

    The physique of a Bodybuilder is indeed artistic but the pursuit is athletic. The execution of a swimmer is also artistic by appearance but the performance is athletic.

    Each bodybuilder is judged for their symetry, mass, definition. All evidence of the individual's experience, perserverance, strength, stamina, & discipline. The technique to best display it takes skill and is far from a pageant. Ever doubt that then pay closer attention next time there's a drunk idiot in the stands of a stadium displaying their "most muscular" pose for the camera! Dont forget the other bodybuilding athletes: Included with them are the power lifters and yes, even the figure and fitness females.

    Personally, my muscle mass, definition, symetry & female curves got there by years of intense and educated training as a bodybuilder; Not from pure genetics or the years of ballet, cheerleading or Muay Thai. The combination of all of these things doesn't make me a bikini model or beauty pageant girl, but rather one hell of a competitive BODYBUILDING FIGURE & FITNESS ATHLETE!
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    My personal opinion is this : The definition of an athlete should contain they're physical shape, muscle mass too of course, BUT also they're ability to run, do vertical jumps and stamina. Kobe Bryant for example is not even near Dexter Jackson in terms of muscularity, but I guarantee you he has better stamina, runs faster, jumps higher. Shouldn't that be taken in to consideration ?
    Im gonna guess you never tried posing on stage depleted and dehydrated. Everyone just seems to think you stand on stage and flex your arms, maybe beat on your chest a little bit. Well youve got a 1000 things going through your head when your up there. And as far as a ' real sport ' requiring natural ability and stamina, for f**k sake just go to an amauter body building event and you will see all kinds of different skill levels.
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    Of course they are athletes... these aren't GOLFERS you know.
    Sheeesh.

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    An "athlete" is someone who exhibits speed, strength, agility and coordination. Sorry guys, bodybuilders are not athletes by definition. (Which isn't to say SOME bodybuilders aren't athletic.) If they were physically trying to stop each other from hitting poses and wrestling one another to hit mandatories, sure, that would involve athleticism. But just standing there in a speedo saying "Hey look at me!" is not an athletic contest and it's not a sport.

    Don't get me wrong, I love bodybuilding. It involves a lot of hard work, discipline and sacrifice, but it's no more a sport than American Idol or the Ms. America pageant. Sorry guys. Sports involve one individual (or a team of individuals) trying to physically impose his (their) will on another. If that's not happening, it's not a sport. It's a "hobby", "activity" or "game".

    For example, how many bodybuilders could compete in the UFC, NFL, MLS, etc.? Not many if any at all. "Lifting stuff" and "getting a killer pump" does not an athlete make.

    The announcers should be saying, "Let's have a hand for all of tonight's COMPETITORS" not "Let's have a hand for all of tonight's ATHLETES".

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    I have competed and I do not care if you call me an athlete or not. It does not matter. I would like it if you respected bodybuilding and and what I do. So just call me and elite competitor

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    There is no doubt, look up the definition for athlete, you can't argue against the termonology of the word.

    If you want to say bodybuilders aren't athletes then you are wrong, it's as simple as that, you can't argue.

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    Originally Posted by Dubble G
    Many enter a gym on a regular basis to maintain their health, strength, or sense of youth. Admirable and worthwhile, but that doesn't make them a bodybuilder.

    For the Bodybuilder each day in the gym is goal-specific, calculated, educated & balanced; from weight training, to cardio, to nutrition. These are all elements of the athletecism prior to stepping before the panel of judges.

    The physique of a Bodybuilder is indeed artistic but the pursuit is athletic. The execution of a swimmer is also artistic by appearance but the performance is athletic.

    Each bodybuilder is judged for their symetry, mass, definition. All evidence of the individual's experience, perserverance, strength, stamina, & discipline. The technique to best display it takes skill and is far from a pageant. Ever doubt that then pay closer attention next time there's a drunk idiot in the stands of a stadium displaying their "most muscular" pose for the camera! Dont forget the other bodybuilding athletes: Included with them are the power lifters and yes, even the figure and fitness females.

    Personally, my muscle mass, definition, symetry & female curves got there by years of intense and educated training as a bodybuilder; Not from pure genetics or the years of ballet, cheerleading or Muay Thai. The combination of all of these things doesn't make me a bikini model or beauty pageant girl, but rather one hell of a competitive BODYBUILDING FIGURE & FITNESS ATHLETE!
    good post.

    I agree with Bob, bodybuilding is definatly a sport and its competitors are athletes.

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    Originally Posted by bababullshat
    I was listening to a contest, either the Colorado or NY Pro, and Bob Chic said "lets hear it for all these great athletes" or something along those lines.

    What stuck out to me was the word 'athlete'. What does a bodybuilder do that could be considered athletic?

    Is a model an athlete?

    Is a beauty pagent contestant an athlete?

    Body Building is about astetics not a test of skill, strength or athletic ability.

    IMHO, BBers are NOT athletes... Your thoughts?
    When you think about this stuff, why can't you just do what regular people do, like go to dictionary.com, look up the word athlete, and have your answer in less than 10 seconds ?

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