giving orotic acid(OA) a look

[zhorner]

how effective is orotic acid when not bonded to creatine?
how dangerous is it?
what dose would you suggest if any?
is it worth 500g for $20?

i have already searched, nothing has been said about it for a while...and no, i will not buy a MAN product.

[UberBerzerker]

why the hell not buy a MAN product? Did MAN touch you in the bathing suit area, or make you bob for candybars in Uncle McTouchy's lap ???


seriously, why the hate for a whole company?

[zhorner]

no hate what so ever for them...i just dont like to pay extra for ANY brand name (except ON whey)

i like to buy bulk powders and make my own supplements so i know exactly how much of what im getting.

no disrespect for MAN at all, sorry i came off that way

[dsade]

Intended or not, you are being disrespectful.

Joey (at MAN) did a lot of the research - not to mention an assload of extra work sourcing, financing, etc. - on Orotate. We spoke briefly about it at the Arnold Classic in 2005.

There is a reason new supplements come out, and that is because people have the courage to put their own $$ on the line to gamble that their intelligence is correct as far as effective supplements go.

Market forces will always come up, and Bulk will always end up cheaper - but give Joey and MAN some kudos rather than an indirect dis.
He deserves some return on investment, especially on something as exciting and groundbreaking as Orotate.

Props, Joey.

[UberBerzerker]

Horner, you should go sign up to be a MAN Clout tester. It would be perfect for you to try it out, not have to pay for it, and give us a nonbiased review in the process.


hook it up and let us know what the 411 is on that product

[zhorner]

Intended or not, you are being disrespectful.

Joey (at MAN) did a lot of the research - not to mention an assload of extra work sourcing, financing, etc. - on Orotate. We spoke briefly about it at the Arnold Classic in 2005.

There is a reason new supplements come out, and that is because people have the courage to put their own $$ on the line to gamble that their intelligence is correct as far as effective supplements go.

Market forces will always come up, and Bulk will always end up cheaper - but give Joey and MAN some kudos rather than an indirect dis.
He deserves some return on investment, especially on something as exciting and groundbreaking as Orotate.

Props, Joey.

fine, their products look good...still not buying them

[mikeizlike]

Intended or not, you are being disrespectful.

Joey (at MAN) did a lot of the research - not to mention an assload of extra work sourcing, financing, etc. - on Orotate. We spoke briefly about it at the Arnold Classic in 2005.

There is a reason new supplements come out, and that is because people have the courage to put their own $$ on the line to gamble that their intelligence is correct as far as effective supplements go.

Market forces will always come up, and Bulk will always end up cheaper - but give Joey and MAN some kudos rather than an indirect dis.
He deserves some return on investment, especially on something as exciting and groundbreaking as Orotate.

Props, Joey.

Dont see his comment as being disrespectful, whether direct or indirect. As a 20 yr old, money is almost always an issue.

[zhorner]

Dont see his comment as being disrespectful, whether direct or indirect. As a 20 yr old, money is almost always an issue.

lol, dude...thats the damn truth

[dito]

Orotine is a budget priced MAN product. It's about the same price as most other creatines out there.

[sonicology]

Orotine is a budget priced MAN product. It's about the same price as most other creatines out there.

I love Orotine - not only is it reasonably priced but I got better results from it than from CEE

[zhorner]

Orotine is a budget priced MAN product. It's about the same price as most other creatines out there.

orotine...300g for 30$
CEE......1000g for 30$

not impressed with that price what so ever.

so is their anyone who can answer my original ?'s instead of making this a MAN praise-a-thread

[dwm230000]

how effective is orotic acid when not bonded to creatine?

- http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jrod10.htm
Orotic Acid is still effective on its own. The above link is to an article about Orotic Acid(not Orotine). It gives a lot of useful info about Orotic Acid. It is written by J-Rod(owner of MAN).

how dangerous is it?

- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...33&postcount=1
^^^^good post by Bane on the safety of Orotic Acid use. Safety is also discussed in the first link to the article.

what dose would you suggest if any?

- I'd start at around 3 grams a day.

is it worth 500g for $20?

- I have not used Orotic Acid stand alone yet, but IMO it is most likely is worth it.

[dwm230000]

i like to buy bulk powders and make my own supplements so i know exactly how much of what im getting.

I understand you want to save money and buy ingredients in bulk, but just for clarification, if you buy an MAN Sports product you do know exactly how much of each ingredient you are getting in each dose. I know that letting the consumer know exactly what they are getting in each dose is something Joey prides himself on.

[zhorner]

I understand you want to save money and buy ingredients in bulk, but just for clarification, if you buy an MAN Sports product you do know exactly how much of each ingredient you are getting in each dose. I know that letting the consumer know exactly what they are getting in each dose is something Joey prides himself on.

i was actually more referring to the "settling effect" found in many premixed powders...do you really know the exact amount of each ingredient you are getting in say...no-xplode or xpand. i highly doubt it

EDIT: and thank you very much for for your above answer, it is much appreciated.

[beau_zo_brehm]

i was actually more referring to the "settling effect" found in many premixed powders...do you really know the exact amount of each ingredient you are getting in say...no-xplode or xpand. i highly doubt it

No you don't know how much is in no-xplode because they use proprietary blends.. which is not the case with MAN products.

[zhorner]

No you don't know how much is in no-xplode because they use proprietary blends.. which is not the case with MAN products.

you muffin....i was talking about the settling of some powders due to a finer grain than others!

[beau_zo_brehm]

you muffin....i was talking about the settling of some powders due to a finer grain than others!

hell idk give the tub a little shake before you open it.

[dwm230000]

i was actually more referring to the "settling effect" found in many premixed powders...do you really know the exact amount of each ingredient you are getting in say...no-xplode or xpand. i highly doubt it

Fair enough. There was no way to be able to tell that from what you had written. You could just try shaking the bottle before use.