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    Before and after pics

    'Sup all,

    Here are some pics after working out diligently for 6 weeks and eating properly. The before pics where taken on October 5th and the after pics (the ones with less hair ) were taken November 19th.

    Let me know what you all think.

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    Wheels (sorry, no before pic of calves)
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    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
    Legs R/L: 23.75/24 -> 24/24.25
    Calves R/L: 16.25/16.5 -> 16.25/16.25
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    Most Muscular

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    Height: 5' 9"
    Age: 25
    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
    Legs R/L: 23.75/24 -> 24/24.25
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    Front Double Bi

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    Age: 25
    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
    Legs R/L: 23.75/24 -> 24/24.25
    Calves R/L: 16.25/16.5 -> 16.25/16.25
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    Height: 5' 9"
    Age: 25
    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
    Legs R/L: 23.75/24 -> 24/24.25
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    Height: 5' 9"
    Age: 25
    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
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    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
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    Forgot one at home...

    Forgot to email myself a front lat spread to work. Oh well, I'll post it tonite.


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    +We're creatures of adaptation. Change is in order if you want to "adapt" to a bigger and stronger you.

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    Height: 5' 9"
    Age: 25
    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
    Legs R/L: 23.75/24 -> 24/24.25
    Calves R/L: 16.25/16.5 -> 16.25/16.25
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    All stats remained pretty much the same (forgot them at home too ) but the one that stood out the most was my waist went down to 34.5 from 36 and my legs jumped about a half inch each. My weight also remained the same so I'm attributing the waist line to mostly water since I did clean up my diet by eliminating or greatly minimizing foods that I know contribute to me holding water (grains/breads, rice, pasta). I'll post a full update of the stats tonite.

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    Height: 5' 9"
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    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
    Legs R/L: 23.75/24 -> 24/24.25
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    dude u would look awesome if u just shaved
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    Originally posted by Lawson
    dude u would look awesome if u just shaved
    True, but I did skim down the hair quite a bit. Kind of hard to go cold turkey when you've been this hairy for so long.

    All hairiness aside, comments on changes, if any. I see a few but it may just be me seeing them and not others.

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    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
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    it really is hard to tell when you're so hairy. At least buzz it!
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    Originally posted by Wiseblood
    it really is hard to tell when you're so hairy. At least buzz it!
    Dude, what pics are you looking at? I did buzz it (chest and abs). Take a look at the front double bi pic again and tell me I didn't buzz it.

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    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
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    I agree that my hairiness will lessen the visibility of my muscles, but I'm not covered in it 100% nor is there enough to totally obscure my muscles. And I will most likely not shave or nair it off since I had to do that (nair) for my left arm to get a tatoo there (pics coming next month) and the hair's growing back and it itches like a mo'fo'. I may buzz it down, but no skin fades for me.

    Any body got any comments besides the hairiness factor?

    Thanks.

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    Height: 5' 9"
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    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
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    Yup, you did shave. I can see the musculature better, and you did show a definite decrease in bodyfat (particularly in the most muscular pic).

    Don't let the guys rag you too much about the hair. I'm hairy too and it's a pain to shave it all off. For one, it takes forever... and two, when it grows back (as mine is doing now), it itches like hell!

    That's why I only compete in bodybuilding every 2 years or so. I hate having to shave down to the skin. Keeping it trimmed though is what I usually do. It's easier to manage and it's cooler in the summer time.

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    I see some ncie striations, epsecially in the most muscular pose. my suggestion would be to hit the back a bit harder. the wheels look great. keep up the good work.
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    Skip: I've been ragged on about my hair since I was in grammar school. Yes, it's true, I have some Sasquatch/Yeti/Bigfoot genes in me Seriously tho, thanks for the compliment/critique. I may just keep it buzzed down since I'm not planning to compete.

    hardcore_rob: Thanks, too, for the compliment/critique. I agree, my back does need much work, especially in the mid part of it (traps, mid back). My lats are ok but the mid back needs more work IMO.

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    BTW, Skip, congrats on your comp win, saw your pics and video routine: Major Props to you bro. You look awesome, and if you reach 180 as you stated you wanted to get at with the same determination you used to get at where you are now.......damn! You'll be looking huge.

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    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
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    is that a hairy ass crack i see?
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    Originally posted by *WiNgS*2
    is that a hairy ass crack i see?
    lmfao
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    Originally posted by *WiNgS*2
    is that a hairy ass crack i see?
    Nah, there hasn't been much of a change in my hairy ass crack in 6 weeks so I didn't post a pic of it. But if you don't have a constructive criticism to offer, please refrain from posting anything at all.

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    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
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    Originally posted by ftblplayer15
    lmfao
    Are you laughing your f-cking hairy ass off? Do you have any constructive criticism to offer? If so, I welcome it. If not, please refrain from posting.

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    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
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    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
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    DROCK you look great. I see you suffer from the same ailment I have, i.e. hairyness.
    I am getting most of mine removed via laser later this year.
    Any other suggestions?
    Eat, sleep, lift...what else is there?
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    Re: DROCK

    Originally posted by Vin Unleaded
    DROCK you look great. I see you suffer from the same ailment I have, i.e. hairyness.
    I am getting most of mine removed via laser later this year.
    Any other suggestions?
    Thanks for the compliment.

    Laser?! How much of your body you gonna do this on? Have you researched it thoroughly? I'm just posing this question cause if your anywhere near as hairy as I am and you're planning on doing the whole thing then that's a lot of buring of the folicles and consequently the skin.

    Other suggestions to combat the hairyness? Do what I do, live with it or buzz it down. I'd just be cautious of the laser thing. If you do go thru with it, let us know how it goes. Perhaps some pre and post pics?

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    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
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    I'm hairy too!!!!!!! lol

    Man you got some huge traps, nice arms overall. Work the back a bit more.
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    Looking good so far. Arms are coming along nicely. What do you do in the way of back excercises?
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    Originally posted by Fudog1138
    Looking good so far. Arms are coming along nicely. What do you do in the way of back excercises?
    For most of the past 10 years I was doing too much...mostly 3-4 exercises of 3 sets each but then I naturally started doing less and saw more gains (strength and size). So for the past 3-4 years I would do 3-4 exercises of 1-3 sets each. I mostly stuck to the following:

    Seated rows
    Pulldowns
    Reverse grip pulldowns
    Stiff arm pulldowns
    BB bent over row (regular and reverse grip)


    For the past few weeks, however, I've switched to an abreviated type of program doing the some of the following exercises for back:

    Pullups/chins (regular, parallel, and/or reverse grip)
    BB bent over row (regular grip)
    DB rows
    Deadlift (bent BLDL and stiff leg SLDL)
    Shrugs (regular and incline)

    Here's how I'm splitting them up:

    M: Reverse grip pullups, SLDL
    W: BB Bent over row, BLDL
    F: DB rows, Shrugs

    Let's see if this works for my back.

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    Originally posted by The Rob
    I'm hairy too!!!!!!! lol

    Man you got some huge traps, nice arms overall. Work the back a bit more.
    Welcome, fellow Sasquatch!

    Thanks dude for the props, but my traps actually need some work, they're only visible when I flex them. When relaxed they're not as noticeable.

    The back does need work, especially the mid part (upper-middle and traps, which are basically the same region). Arm-wise, my left is a bit lagging but not too much.

    Thanks again.

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    +We're creatures of adaptation. Change is in order if you want to "adapt" to a bigger and stronger you.

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    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
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    well is you took of your ape suit i would sy your looking pretty damn good!...
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    Thumbs up

    Lookin good DRock, just stick with the diet. 6 weeks isn't long enough that's for sure. Get to about 10 weeks and you'll start seeing all sorts of striations. Good job though.
    Nobody understands how hard it is.
    Everyone is so quick to criticize, I say, lets see what YOU got!!!

    Keep it up dude!!!!!
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    Originally posted by MASSIVERJV
    Lookin good DRock, just stick with the diet. 6 weeks isn't long enough that's for sure. Get to about 10 weeks and you'll start seeing all sorts of striations. Good job though.
    Nobody understands how hard it is.
    Everyone is so quick to criticize, I say, lets see what YOU got!!!

    Keep it up dude!!!!!
    Thanks bro. The 6 weeks was actually just me trying to get back into shape after about 1.5 years of off and on training. I'm now on a bulking diet, clean tho, still keeping those bad-for-me carbs at a minimum. Taking in about 3500 calories a day. Gonna try to up them as close to 4000 as possible (~3750-3900)over the next few days.

    I'll post pics in a month to see how things are going.

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    +We're creatures of adaptation. Change is in order if you want to "adapt" to a bigger and stronger you.

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    Height: 5' 9"
    Age: 25
    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
    Legs R/L: 23.75/24 -> 24/24.25
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    Originally posted by *WiNgS*2
    well is you took of your ape suit i would sy your looking pretty damn good!...
    Thanks wings2. I know, but the wife actually likes the ape suit and the hassle of shaving/nairing isn't worth it for me. If I competed or were planning to (which I'm not and won't) then of course I'd take the ape suit off. But for now I'll just keep it trimmed for you aesthetically-correct bros

    Peace
    +Listen to your body, it knows what it's talking about.

    +We're creatures of adaptation. Change is in order if you want to "adapt" to a bigger and stronger you.

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    Stats (Oct 5, 2002 -> Nov 17, 2002)

    Height: 5' 9"
    Age: 25
    Weight: 194 lbs (Dec 9, 2002)
    BF%: ~18 -> ???
    Neck: 16 -> 16.5
    Arms R/L: 15.75/15.5 -> Same
    4-Arms R/L: 13/13 -> 13.5 -> 13.25
    Chest: 43.5 -> 43.25
    Waist: 36 -> 34.25
    Legs R/L: 23.75/24 -> 24/24.25
    Calves R/L: 16.25/16.5 -> 16.25/16.25
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