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    Originally Posted by put5onyo View Post
    Do you have proof that he didn't bench anywhere near that?

    I agree about Brady's bench. It's not that impressive compared to powerlifters, but how many of those people could go out and finish the sprint/agility/conditioning drills that he is constantly doing. That's the difference, two different training regimens with totally different goals in mind. For the most part, football players train for explosive, multi-plane strength whereas powerlifters train for raw, unadulterated brute strength. Not saying one is better than the other, just different.

    Edit: I'd have to say as well that Allen's bench more than likely wouldn't have counted in a PL meet, since football players don't bench the same, but how do you know he didn't do it?

    http://www.bench-press.net/article/l...nch-press.html

    http://gametimeworkouts.blogspot.com...s-700-lbs.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI_A4BYyT-0

    http://media.putfile.com/Larry-Allen...m_medium=embed

    how do you prove something didn't happen?
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    Originally Posted by put5onyo View Post
    Do you have proof that he didn't bench anywhere near that?

    I agree about Brady's bench. It's not that impressive compared to powerlifters, but how many of those people could go out and finish the sprint/agility/conditioning drills that he is constantly doing. That's the difference, two different training regimens with totally different goals in mind. For the most part, football players train for explosive, multi-plane strength whereas powerlifters train for raw, unadulterated brute strength. Not saying one is better than the other, just different.

    Edit: I'd have to say as well that Allen's bench more than likely wouldn't have counted in a PL meet, since football players don't bench the same, but how do you know he didn't do it?

    http://www.bench-press.net/article/l...nch-press.html

    http://gametimeworkouts.blogspot.com...s-700-lbs.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI_A4BYyT-0

    http://media.putfile.com/Larry-Allen...m_medium=embed
    lol, did you see the video of his so called 700 lbs. Bench?
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    Originally Posted by Shanecutler51 View Post
    lol, did you see the video of his so called 700 lbs. Bench?
    x2

    That video really doesn't prove anything. You don't know if there's 700lbs on the bar, you don't know if the spotters just had their hands on the bar for additional safety or if they should in fact be credited with a 700lbs deadlift, plus the video only shows the lockout.
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    Originally Posted by KDK View Post
    x2

    That video really doesn't prove anything. You don't know if there's 700lbs on the bar, you don't know if the spotters just had their hands on the bar for additional safety or if they should in fact be credited with a 700lbs deadlift, plus the video only shows the lockout.
    That bench has been discussed to death on here before; just search on Larry Allen.
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    Originally Posted by DuracellBunny View Post
    That bench has been discussed to death on here before; just search on Larry Allen.
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    Originally Posted by KDK View Post
    x2

    That video really doesn't prove anything. You don't know if there's 700lbs on the bar, you don't know if the spotters just had their hands on the bar for additional safety or if they should in fact be credited with a 700lbs deadlift, plus the video only shows the lockout.
    That doesn't sound like a lift that could really be counted for much
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    Originally Posted by smitsky View Post
    That doesn't sound like a lift that could really be counted for much
    it definitely isn't, wasn't a very good video =/.
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    yea think thats impressive well i can bench 95kilos once yea thats right once
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    Originally Posted by Shanecutler51 View Post
    If that was an attempt at humour; the judges would give it a score of 0/10.

    Larry Allen really has been discussed to death on every forum there is; I don't know why people keep bringing him up.

    As an example http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ht=larry+allen that?s 125 posts on the subject.
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    Originally Posted by DuracellBunny View Post
    If that was an attempt at humour; the judges would give it a score of 0/10.

    Larry Allen really has been discussed to death on every forum there is; I don't know why people keep bringing him up.

    As an example http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ht=larry+allen that?s 125 posts on the subject.
    Apparently this thread is serious business, I know Larry has been brought up too much, hence why I posted the pic to draw attention away from Larry Allen
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    Originally Posted by put5onyo View Post
    Do you have proof that he didn't bench anywhere near that?

    I agree about Brady's bench. It's not that impressive compared to powerlifters, but how many of those people could go out and finish the sprint/agility/conditioning drills that he is constantly doing. That's the difference, two different training regimens with totally different goals in mind. For the most part, football players train for explosive, multi-plane strength whereas powerlifters train for raw, unadulterated brute strength. Not saying one is better than the other, just different.

    Edit: I'd have to say as well that Allen's bench more than likely wouldn't have counted in a PL meet, since football players don't bench the same, but how do you know he didn't do it?

    http://www.bench-press.net/article/l...nch-press.html

    http://gametimeworkouts.blogspot.com...s-700-lbs.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI_A4BYyT-0

    http://media.putfile.com/Larry-Allen...m_medium=embed

    Have you ever seen the video?
    First, it starts only halfway through the rep, or he is doing a half rep.
    Second, you have three NFL players with their hands on the bar helping him lift it.
    Before people start arguing about the guys not helping him, or helping him very little, I'll say this much:

    If you curl or upright row 60 lbs, does it feel heavy? For me it feels like nothing. I'm a small guy compared to an NFL player, and my best personal best is a 135x4 BB curl.
    With 3 spotters that "aren't helping that much" you are still getting maybe 150 lbs of assistance+help stabilizing.

    Larry Allen is strong, but 40something reps with 225 doesn't equal a 700 bench.
    For some reason I couldn't find Allen's 700 bench on youtube, but I know it's on there, I'll post it later if I can find it.

    There are only a handful of people who have ever hit 700 raw on bench, and it's a disrespect to them to call Allen's "bench" a legit one. That doesn't mean he is not strong, it just means he can't bench 700 (at least not in the same way that these other lifters, Mendy, etc, can).
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    Somehow, somehow I had a feeling it is gonna be about football players again
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    Originally Posted by John Prophet View Post
    theyd have to rep 315 or something..theyd be there all day with 225
    All day? Nah. They'd probably have to stop to go to the bathroom or get a snack or something.
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    Originally Posted by Dark_MadMax View Post
    Somehow, somehow I had a feeling it is gonna be about football players again
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    Originally Posted by breathingmurder View Post
    LOL

    one other thing we should point out is that at the combine they are locking out on every rep(well, supposed to). obviously they will not lift like mendelson ubt they would be getting more reps if they were not
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    This Ryan Kennely vid is the single most impressive lifting vid I have ever watched.
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    Originally Posted by Shanecutler51 View Post
    it definitely isn't, wasn't a very good video =/.
    I want to see a good, clean, unassisted rep with these type of claims.

    I saw Dennis Cieri (198 lbs bodyweight) do multiple sets with Singles at 500 lbs. with a t-shirt on

    His training partner was spotting him. All he gave him was a liftoff... then just casually stood there and watched
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    Originally Posted by PoW View Post
    This Ryan Kennely vid is the single most impressive lifting vid I have ever watched.
    This is some very impressive lifting!

    My BodySpace contains a video of one Femis Lambrionidis. He handles 900+ lbs in the Squat so proficiently - and with excellent depth - that it looks as if there is no weight on the bar.
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    Here is 47*100 kg (220 pounds) from a competition, the lifter weighs 99 kilos.



    More videos can be found with words "sotilaspenkki" or "military bench".
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    brady quinn's bench was impressive. but you have to factor in that he weighs 227lbs so he pretty much did his bodyweight for reps. look at jeremy now, he weighs around 240-260, hes shorter, but he does his body weight a lot more times than quinn does
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    Originally Posted by put5onyo View Post
    Do you have proof that he didn't bench anywhere near that?

    I agree about Brady's bench. It's not that impressive compared to powerlifters, but how many of those people could go out and finish the sprint/agility/conditioning drills that he is constantly doing. That's the difference, two different training regimens with totally different goals in mind. For the most part, football players train for explosive, multi-plane strength whereas powerlifters train for raw, unadulterated brute strength. Not saying one is better than the other, just different.

    Edit: I'd have to say as well that Allen's bench more than likely wouldn't have counted in a PL meet, since football players don't bench the same, but how do you know he didn't do it?

    http://www.bench-press.net/article/l...nch-press.html

    http://gametimeworkouts.blogspot.com...s-700-lbs.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI_A4BYyT-0

    http://media.putfile.com/Larry-Allen...m_medium=embed
    Allen's "700" was a bounce and go half-rep with spotters carrying half the load. With some decent training he could pause 600 raw probably. But please don't say he's near a world record when he's not.
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