Hello everyone...I have included some pics...the top pic(grey trunks) is the latest pic(august 2002). I am a little more cut at 204 right now. I am trying to stay at the same bf% until dec. 29th, but get back to about 207-208. I plan on starting my 16 week(yes, that long) precontest diet on dec. 29th. I am going to TRY to lean out to 174(end of the middleweight class) I would like some feedback. Anyone who has done a show before>>PLEASE let me know if you think that 174 will be too light. I don't want to lose too much muscle.
thanks!
KING!
PICS
http://members.shaw.ca/beforeafter/king/king.htm
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11-21-2002, 10:50 PM #1
new to board...with before and after pics
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11-21-2002, 11:32 PM #2
Wow ... you've made some phenomenal changes ... it's hard to believe that it's the one person in the before and after pic! Huge upper body and thighs! Maybe just need to bring your calves up just a bit. Sure your waist is only 30''? It could be just those pics or something but it does look bigger than that. Wel other than thatl I think 174 might be a bit light for you to cut down to ... I mean you are that bloody big and if you hit 208 well that's 34lbs to lose ... and you're fairly lean already as it is. Possibly though. Incredible job anyways, keep the great work up Man!
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11-22-2002, 12:01 AM #3
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11-22-2002, 09:32 AM #8
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11-22-2002, 10:30 AM #9
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11-22-2002, 10:39 AM #10
It is very easy to "overestimate" what your competition weight will be. I would think that 174 would be a very realistic guess. But don't be surprised if it is actually lower than that. Remember, if you are going to compete, you can never be too lean. As long as you keep your protein levels high and don't do hours of cardio every day, you should be able to preserve most of your muscle. But as you get down into single-digit bodyfat percentages, your body inevitably begins to burn muscle tissue.
My suggestion is actually to disregard what you weigh on the scale, and diet down until you are as shredded as you need to be to do your absolute best in your contest. If you focus too much on weight, you may not diet down as far as necessary for fear that you are losing too much size. If you were just cutting with no contest in mind, it would be a different story. But you have to be shredded to win most contests.
Great transformation by the way. Keep up the good work!Enjoy the journey!
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11-22-2002, 11:07 AM #11
hmmm
So you think that I would need to be lower than 174? I am a little more lean than in those pics...the state that I listed on that little page are from mid september. I lose weight REALLY fast, so I am a little leary of dieting too hard. I lose 18lbs in 3 days last year when I had surgery on my sinuses. I HATE to see the numbers on the scale go down, so this will be a HUGE psychological battle for me. It struggle for every ounce of weight that I gain and I am worried that Iwon't be able to gain it back if I cut too much. Any suggestions?
Thanks
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11-22-2002, 11:32 AM #12
scary man, just scary, you made some GREAT improvements, of course, not after hard work and dedication though
Ja ben ik Nederlands
"Everything I do, I strive to be more like you. You've taken me from the depths within and released me, freed me, into what you want me to Be. Every day I live for you, and I devote my life to you. God, you are my salvation, Jesus, my rejuvinator." - Is0, Allen
"A life unexamined is a life not worth living" - Unknown
"Once a person realizes his state of sin, his natural inclination is to find the remedy within himself. He attempts to bring about his own salvation by human means. He tries various reforms when he needs to be regenerated. As with the Israelites, he tries to become justified by the Law rather than by faith in Jesus, Rather than cleaning up the old man, he needs to be made a new man in Christ. He doesn't need to "turn over a new leaf," he needs a completely new life. The only remedy for man's fallen state is salvation by the grace of God through faith in His Son Jesus." - SOS
If you guys ever wanna talk, about anything, whether troubles, problems, christian advice, whatever it may be, I'm here.
Allen
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11-23-2002, 01:10 AM #13
Re: new to board...with before and after pics
Originally posted by bench_king
Hello everyone...I have included some pics...the top pic(grey trunks) is the latest pic(august 2002). I am a little more cut at 204 right now. I am trying to stay at the same bf% until dec. 29th, but get back to about 207-208. I plan on starting my 16 week(yes, that long) precontest diet on dec. 29th. I am going to TRY to lean out to 174(end of the middleweight class) I would like some feedback. Anyone who has done a show before>>PLEASE let me know if you think that 174 will be too light. I don't want to lose too much muscle.
thanks!
KING!
PICS
http://members.shaw.ca/beforeafter/king/king.htm
*mops up drool with a handy shirt of her brother's*
He he heStats are gone
Ask o'er msn or aim
Powerlifting is cool ^_^
How many 120lb chics do you know that can bench 145?
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11-24-2002, 02:27 PM #14
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11-24-2002, 04:34 PM #15
holy christ! i didn't think it was possible to put that much mass on a frame like that. nice job.
What one of my fellow co-workers says to some random guy who's watching me curse out passing motorists & throw empty water bottles at at various people in the gym parking lot...
"Mike's really a nice guy in the gym, but when he gets outside it's like he goes to war & everyone's the enemy..."
(sorry str8, they made me do it)
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11-25-2002, 10:13 AM #16
Re: hmmm
Originally posted by bench_king
So you think that I would need to be lower than 174? I am a little more lean than in those pics...the state that I listed on that little page are from mid september. I lose weight REALLY fast, so I am a little leary of dieting too hard. I lose 18lbs in 3 days last year when I had surgery on my sinuses. I HATE to see the numbers on the scale go down, so this will be a HUGE psychological battle for me. It struggle for every ounce of weight that I gain and I am worried that Iwon't be able to gain it back if I cut too much. Any suggestions?
Thanks
As far as gaining the weight back, DO NOT worry about that! Trust me, the time immediately following a cutting cycle is one of the best times to make great gains in the gym. Your body is in a state of maximum nutrient uptake due to the restrictions it experiences during the dieting. Take a look at any of the posts regarding post-contest eating binges and you will see story after story of people putting on 30, 40, or even 50 pounds in the weeks and months following a contest. In fact, most of the time the battle lies in limiting the acute weight gain experienced immediately following a show.
Also, when designing your cutting diet, be sure that you cut a small amount of calories from your daily intake at first. Because you have ectomorphic tendencies, you will not need a large caloric deficit or tons of aerobic exercise to begin dropping fat. Go slowly and you can be assured that you will minimize muscle loss. This will allow you to compete at as high a bodyweight as possible.
Good luck!Enjoy the journey!
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11-25-2002, 01:23 PM #17
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11-25-2002, 03:32 PM #18
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11-25-2002, 06:32 PM #19
That shocked me almost as much as the Dorian Yates transformation of 92-93. Very impressive BK. By the way, since you have probably read many posts on roids here at the site and realize that controlled, informed, use is not dangerous, why not do a low dose cycle? I mean I have total respect for your decisions but what is your reason for staying natural totally, Just curious---again very nice work.
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11-25-2002, 06:52 PM #20
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Originally posted by desert rat
... By the way, since you have probably read many posts on roids here at the site and realize that controlled, informed, use is not dangerous, why not do a low dose cycle? I mean I have total respect for your decisions but what is your reason for staying natural totally, Just curious---again very nice work.
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11-25-2002, 07:13 PM #21
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11-25-2002, 08:16 PM #22
Re: hmmm
Originally posted by bench_king
I have thought about a cycle, but to be honest, I have no clue who sells haha. I have been wanting to, but I'm kinda scared of getting caught haha. I know a reasonable dose is safe, but it's the law I'm worried about.Ja ben ik Nederlands
"Everything I do, I strive to be more like you. You've taken me from the depths within and released me, freed me, into what you want me to Be. Every day I live for you, and I devote my life to you. God, you are my salvation, Jesus, my rejuvinator." - Is0, Allen
"A life unexamined is a life not worth living" - Unknown
"Once a person realizes his state of sin, his natural inclination is to find the remedy within himself. He attempts to bring about his own salvation by human means. He tries various reforms when he needs to be regenerated. As with the Israelites, he tries to become justified by the Law rather than by faith in Jesus, Rather than cleaning up the old man, he needs to be made a new man in Christ. He doesn't need to "turn over a new leaf," he needs a completely new life. The only remedy for man's fallen state is salvation by the grace of God through faith in His Son Jesus." - SOS
If you guys ever wanna talk, about anything, whether troubles, problems, christian advice, whatever it may be, I'm here.
Allen
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11-25-2002, 08:17 PM #23
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11-25-2002, 08:18 PM #24
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11-25-2002, 09:10 PM #25
Re: hmmm
Originally posted by bench_king
I have thought about a cycle, but to be honest, I have no clue who sells haha. I have been wanting to, but I'm kinda scared of getting caught haha. I know a reasonable dose is safe, but it's the law I'm worried about.
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11-25-2002, 09:23 PM #26
I think...
I just don't think that I would like to take the chance. I am done with school in the spring and I will be working for a top bio-tech company. I would NOT get hired with someting like that on my record. I am also looking at getting into pharm. sales if the bio-tech thing is not what I'm looking for. I am getting married in august and I don't want to risk everything. Thanks for the support..Any tips for the upcoming diet time??
thanks
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12-01-2002, 10:00 PM #27
thanks for the input...
thanks for all the input. Do you think that 18 weeks of cutting would be better than 16 weeks? Would that be too long? Would that take away from the bulking time that I have left. I only have like 3 weeks left to bulk and I'm not really where I want to be. What do ya think? KNow of anyone who is looking to sponsor a natural bodybuilder through the first show?? haha hey, it can't hurt to ask...
King
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12-02-2002, 04:32 PM #28
Great job dude
If you're gonna diet for a show, don't worry about what your weight will be. The mirror will show you where you should be. If you need help with a diet let me know. Happy to help. Get on the scale the day of the show."If you ever make a movie about Arnold Schwarzenegger, you'll be laughed off 42nd Street." - Romulus Linney
"Be a thinker, not a stinker." - Apollo Creed
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